oowee Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, marsh man said: We also have to take in account that shooting on the GL is the last resort after already having tried non lethal methods first and not the other way round As I said , this G L is like a mine field and how many people carrying out pest control carry out all the requirements before they start pulling the trigger ? A, be satisfied alternatives methods have been employed* B. continue to use or consider alternative methods* You’re not required to use alternative, lawful methods under condition 1(a) and 1(b) where the use of such methods would be impractical, without effect or disproportionate in the circumstances. * paraphrase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 54 minutes ago, marsh man said: We also have to take in account that shooting on the GL is the last resort after already having tried non lethal methods first and not the other way round As I said , this G L is like a mine field and how many people carrying out pest control carry out all the requirements before they start pulling the trigger ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 3 hours ago, oowee said: A, be satisfied alternatives methods have been employed* B. continue to use or consider alternative methods* You’re not required to use alternative, lawful methods under condition 1(a) and 1(b) where the use of such methods would be impractical, without effect or disproportionate in the circumstances. * paraphrase That is the thing oowee , very few guidelines on when and where you conduct alternative methods , most complaints about gas guns are in built up areas , so to keep the peace on a golf course you would have to use the Hawk kites , and possibly poison down the Rabbit holes. Take the crop fields I shoot throughout the Summer , I would normally walk around the field twice before having a go over decoys , ( a ) I enjoy going for a walk around our fields and ( b ) it should cover using alternative methods according to the G L , on paper I have done my best to walk them off over a period of two days and if they keep coming back then some of them will get shoot , then a few days later I then carry out the same routine and if they insist on coming back then some more will be shot , all sorted and keeping within the guide lines , ........... or am I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, marsh man said: , then a few days later I then carry out the same routine and if they insist on coming back then some more will be shot , all sorted and keeping within the guide lines , ........... or am I Keen and careful 👍 Your right its a concern. Most of the places I shoot there will be a gas gun or scary man to turn off. One farm has a licence for starlings. There are nets on all the barns but the licence is a bit daft limiting the number to just 50 birds. The nets are a complete pain for the farm operation. Not much you can do for a golf course. Best for shooting rabbits foxes and if your lucky maybe a goose or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) On 16/10/2022 at 14:00, Theduckman said: Could anyone let me know if shooting pigeons/crows ect on a golf course fall under any general license? Any advice would be much appreciated Given there would likely be Golfers about shooting in the daytime on a Golf Course especially at this time of year is a very bad idea irrespective of the GL. Pigeons and Crows don't damage Golf Courses. Edited October 18, 2022 by Weihrauch17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumpy22 Posted October 19, 2022 Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 I set up my own company and shoot for various different golf courses. You will need your own public liability and insurance if being payed. Also get a contract written this will usually state what you are expected to control from types of mammals to Birdlife. Usually the hgc will discuss and liaise with you the damage you need to stop. From there forward it is for you to explain methods used which must be obviously 100 per cent legal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mullard83 Posted October 20, 2022 Report Share Posted October 20, 2022 On 18/10/2022 at 22:41, Weihrauch17 said: Given there would likely be Golfers about shooting in the daytime on a Golf Course especially at this time of year is a very bad idea irrespective of the GL. Pigeons and Crows don't damage Golf Courses. I would say Crows do damage golf courses. I have seen where they along with rooks & jackdaws have dug up grass seeds & fairways looking for leather jackets. On our recreation ground outside my house they have dug great big holes all over the place as this year there seem to be loads of crane flys about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumpy22 Posted October 20, 2022 Report Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Mullard83 said: I would say Crows do damage golf courses. I have seen where they along with rooks & jackdaws have dug up grass seeds & fairways looking for leather jackets. On our recreation ground outside my house they have dug great big holes all over the place as this year there seem to be loads of crane flys about. I have a driving range where the crows are picking up the balls flying off and dropping them in field behind. Nothing we can do except deterrent tactics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted October 20, 2022 Report Share Posted October 20, 2022 I did a golf course across the road for years and it was nothing but a pain going out at 5am there was people walking across it to there work and folk out walking there dogs. During the day the golfers think they own it and you shouldnt be there one day i was digging out my ferret under a forty foot popular and they old golfer trot over have you got permission to be here ?. Then the sneaky ones go to the green keepers and say theres somebody stealing trees LOL the green keepers come over and say i knew you where out . Try lamping at night theres kids and folk walking dogs in the dark no torch or anything . Then fire a gun during the day . Now i just wander over ferret a few rabbits and walk away stuff the rest of it not worth the hassel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theduckman Posted October 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2022 On 18/10/2022 at 22:41, Weihrauch17 said: Given there would likely be Golfers about shooting in the daytime on a Golf Course especially at this time of year is a very bad idea irrespective of the GL. Pigeons and Crows don't damage Golf Courses. Sorry but I have seen the damage the crows have done to greens ,even though this isn’t a good enough reason to bring in control measures the problem still exists. The costs of getting a green to a good standard is a little more than just running the Flymo over the top of it once a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted October 20, 2022 Report Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Theduckman said: Sorry but I have seen the damage the crows have done to greens ,even though this isn’t a good enough reason to bring in control measures the problem still exists. The costs of getting a green to a good standard is a little more than just running the Flymo over the top of it once a week. So why are we discussing it. I control vermin on 2 golf courses and have never seen any damage from crows and pigeons and have never been asked to control them just Foxes and Rabbits. 10 hours ago, bumpy22 said: I have a driving range where the crows are picking up the balls flying off and dropping them in field behind. Nothing we can do except deterrent tactics Probably mistaking them for eggs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumpy22 Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 On 20/10/2022 at 20:46, Theduckman said: Sorry but I have seen the damage the crows have done to greens ,even though this isn’t a good enough reason to bring in control measures the problem still exists. The costs of getting a green to a good standard is a little more than just running the Flymo over the top of it once a week. Exactly this all corvids damage green looking for worms leather jackets etc etc The repair cost in labour are not cheap Also geese on the grass eating and defecating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 I just do the tree rats on one course and , yes, you do have to accept early in ...early out. At the moment there is about one and a half hours of likely activity on the actual fairways but I have a set up on the practise area and that usually gives me another hour. The regular golfers now know who I am and just carry on enjoying their game. I shoot from a fixed point to a feed station and don't wander about the place. Usually takes the first group out about three hours to reach the 18th so I sit on that one last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 On our three local golf courses the barmy golfers are quequeing up waiting for it to get light. I used to shoot every one of those three places before they were turned into golf courses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scobydog Posted January 15, 2023 Report Share Posted January 15, 2023 Having been a Greenkeeper and done the pest control on golf courses i can tell you that Corvids do cause serious damage to greens, the amount of effort that is put into well tended greens is massive in both cost and labour. The cost of repair after damage can be extortionate, i found the best tool to use was the Fac air rifle, quiet , accurate and very effective, also good for the rabbits and squirrels either on the ground or using a bait point, pigeons and foxes haven't caused any damage to courses ii did pest control on, Canada's can definitely be culled for H and S reasons. As for the police i never had an issue , just rang 101 to let them know what i was doing and what times i was doing it. S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted December 25, 2023 Report Share Posted December 25, 2023 On 16/10/2022 at 17:32, Theduckman said: Now now gentlemen let’s not get upset just because golf was mentioned. To be clear on this my original point is I’ve been asked by a golf course to help out , not so much the pigeons but more so crows and rabbits, my point being I can’t see how under the new GL crows pigeons or most bird for that matter could be shot on a golf course . If around the buildings then possibly H&S would apply for pigeons. On the course itself is harder to justify. Rabbit no issue, geese no issue due to the dog **** size poo all over the fairways so would be h&s Just now, ShootingEgg said: If around the buildings then possibly H&S would apply for pigeons. On the course itself is harder to justify. Rabbit no issue, geese no issue due to the dog **** size poo all over the fairways so would be h&s Ah balls just noticed this is a very old post ha. To much Christmas cheer in Me ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 25, 2023 Report Share Posted December 25, 2023 21 minutes ago, ShootingEgg said: Ah balls just noticed this is a very old post ha. To much Christmas cheer in Me ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.