TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 What an absolute fuss over nothing; https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63810468 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: What an absolute fuss over nothing; https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63810468 ***!!!! 6 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: What an absolute fuss over nothing; https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63810468 Not at all racist then? 'supports women of African and Caribbean heritage across the UK who have faced domestic and sexual abuse'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 She answered the question fully. Fortunately the racist bigot Lady Susan has walked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) She had already explained she was born and lived in the UK. Why did she keep on asking when she clearly told her Edited November 30, 2022 by Rim Fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 Only she knows what she meant. It could be that she asked about the woman's background because the charity is for people of African and Caribbean heritage. That said, she should not have pushed the matter and has been an idiot. Why the charity is for a particular section of domestic abuse victims is another question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, Gordon R said: Only she knows what she meant. It could be that she asked about the woman's background because the charity is for people of African and Caribbean heritage. That said, she should not have pushed the matter and has been an idiot. Why the charity is for a particular section of domestic abuse victims is another question. Can you imagine the uproar if it was for Caucasian women only? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 funny how black people are always going on about their “roots” and proud of them, yet when someone asks her about her roots she plays the race card. Don’t know anything about this charity that supports women from African and Caribbean heritage, but does it exclude women from other races? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 It's not so funny if your black and feel constant oppression simply because of that. We all know of the instances of institutional racism and it starts with being blind to the issues that others face often on a daily basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 Quote funny how black people are always going on about their “roots” and proud of them, yet when someone asks her about her roots she plays the race card. I must have missed something. I didn't think she had played the race card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) I was at a speed awareness course ( quite ironic as my Landrover was in ‘limp mode’ at the time! 😀) a few weeks ago, and was talking to a black bloke who had been pinged by the same camera as me, and asked him where he was from. He replied ‘ Windermere, but Nairobi originally’ and I felt awful cos that wasn’t what I meant at all. 🤷♂️ 🙂 Edited November 30, 2022 by Scully Grammar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, Gordon R said: I must have missed something. I didn't think she had played the race card. Perhaps not directly from her mouth but the race card was played. "Mandu Reid, told BBC News that Lady Hussey's questions had been "offensive, racist and unwelcoming". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 Arguments about race are never going to stop until its just not seen as a thing anymore. The same could be said for other minority groups to. I don't think it's helpful the way our society constantly draws attention to it all the time. After all, what does how much pigment someone has in their skin, or what sex they're attracted to got to do with anything. All it leads to is issues like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 Quote "Mandu Reid, told BBC News that Lady Hussey's questions had been "offensive, racist and unwelcoming". Nothing racist in her telling the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Gordon R said: Nothing racist in her telling the truth. ^^^^^ This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gordon R said: Why the charity is for a particular section of domestic abuse victims is another question Because it's not seen as racist, unless it is for Whites only. 33 minutes ago, old'un said: Mandu Reid, told BBC News that Lady Hussey's questions had been "offensive, racist and unwelcoming". A bit like the lady's charity. Until segregation in all forms stops, we will never be rid of racism. Edit - I should add I'm not trying to condone what happened, just pointing out hypocrisy. Edited November 30, 2022 by Newbie to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) Reading a transcript only evidences what was said. It doesn't reveal the nuances of HOW it was said? Just like calling someone at work "a ef**** bas***". On paper it looks offensive. If overheard it could have been offensive or said in fact with respect and admiration. I wasn't party to how what was said was said so would not want to comment further. Just the same as, at work, remarking that what someone has done "is very clever" could be an appreciative compliment or an excoriating condemnation. On paper words are words. You have to HEAR them to know what the actual tone of the dialogue was. Edited November 30, 2022 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushandpull Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 I am sure that the 83 year old lady meant well but was not too perceptive. Mind you, the complainant, given her name and her manner of dress, looked as if she had just stepped off a plane from Lusaka which was probably the source of the confusion. Imagine : I turn up at a function with a blonde rinse, wearing shorts and long socks. My name badge says "Lood van Rensburg". "And where are you from ?" "Norfolk" "Yes but where are you really from ?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 40 minutes ago, Gordon R said: Nothing racist in her telling the truth. who was telling the truth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rem260 Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 Do black women only come from Africa or the Caribbean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 Just now, Rem260 said: Do black women only come from Africa or the Caribbean? No, but would it make you racist for not knowing that fact? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 Quote A bit like the lady's charity. Until segregation in all forms stops, we will never be rid of racism. Edit - I should add I'm not trying to condone what happened, just pointing out hypocrisy. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 Good Grief. Lady H is 83 and would have only been showing an interest in the exotically dressed woman. At her age she should have been cut some slack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rem260 Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 14 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: No, but would it make you racist for not knowing that fact? I just wonder why the charity makes a distinction of support for black women from an African or Carrabian heritage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 Nuance can get a man hanged. I am, just, old enough to have known people who remembered the case of Craig and Bentley and the words "Let him have it Chris!" How a thing is said is everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, amateur said: Good Grief. Lady H is 83 and would have only been showing an interest in the exotically dressed woman. At her age she should have been cut some slack /\ This - but she would also have been very much on standard 'small talk' where a very normal question is 'where are you from'. 18 minutes ago, enfieldspares said: How a thing is said is everything. That is true and we have only heard (read the transcript of) one version. Lady H will be following her late majesty's doctrine of 'never complain, never explain'. Edited November 30, 2022 by JohnfromUK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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