armsid Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 Condolences MM keep her memory in your heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 very sorry to here this MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted January 5 Author Report Share Posted January 5 15 minutes ago, armsid said: Condolences MM keep her memory in your heart 9 minutes ago, mossy835 said: very sorry to here this MM THANKS , Certainly no shortage of top class chaps on this forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 only just seen this condolences MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted January 6 Author Report Share Posted January 6 54 minutes ago, Rim Fire said: only just seen this condolences MM THANKS Rim Fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 On 02/01/2024 at 19:19, Weihrauch17 said: They are Apprentices that cost the Taxpayer a fortune to train £250 - £270k. When qualified then the money flows, they want 35% and are absolutely taking the proverbial. A good number take their Taxpayer funded training abroad also. They are disgusting in their attitude. Maybe they have just followed the way of our political masters? Do as little as possible for the most dosh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 There was a female junior doctor interviewed on the radio yesterday while I was driving back from Cornwall. God what an arrogant piece of work she was. To her it was clearly politically motivated. She didn't appear to care who died Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 1 minute ago, Vince Green said: To her it was clearly politically motivated. She didn't appear to care who died One of the junior doctors 'leaders' is one "Rob Laurenson" - who (in my view anyway) has a particularly uncaring, arrogant and cocky attitude. Seeing him on TV makes you want to throw something at it .......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, JohnfromUK said: has a particularly uncaring, arrogant and cocky attitude. obviously bound for Orthopaedics then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 1 minute ago, Yellow Bear said: obviously bound for Orthopaedics then. Brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 On 10/01/2024 at 09:49, JohnfromUK said: One of the junior doctors 'leaders' is one "Rob Laurenson" - who (in my view anyway) has a particularly uncaring, arrogant and cocky attitude. Seeing him on TV makes you want to throw something at it .......... He doesn't even work as a doctor full time. He runs an investment company called Westholme Investments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 On 10/01/2024 at 09:44, Vince Green said: She didn't appear to care who died To be fair, they are a work force like any other, you can’t emotionally black mail them with “if you don’t come to work people will die”. Thats a real low way to negotiate with a workforce, emotional blackmail. Despite that it’s been done for years in the health and care sector, people told if they don’t accept poor deals it will harm patients and service users if they strike, that manipulation has been going on for years, and in the past staff have buckled to it. They’ve not pushed that line too far and staff clearly can’t take it anymore. 55 minutes ago, Vince Green said: He doesn't even work as a doctor full time. He runs an investment company called Westholme Investments Also to this, many on this very thread have said if they don’t like the terms and conditions of being Doctors, then they should leave and do something else. This person has made steps to do that, clearly working as a Doctor alone wasn’t cutting it, and they’re better off working part time and spending the rest of their time with this investment company. It seems they can’t win and will get slated no matter what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 3 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said: To be fair, they are a work force like any other, you can’t emotionally black mail them with “if you don’t come to work people will die”. Thats a real low way to negotiate with a workforce, emotional blackmail. Despite that it’s been done for years in the health and care sector, people told if they don’t accept poor deals it will harm patients and service users if they strike, that manipulation has been going on for years, and in the past staff have buckled to it. They’ve not pushed that line too far and staff clearly can’t take it anymore. Also to this, many on this very thread have said if they don’t like the terms and conditions of being Doctors, then they should leave and do something else. This person has made steps to do that, clearly working as a Doctor alone wasn’t cutting it, and they’re better off working part time and spending the rest of their time with this investment company. It seems they can’t win and will get slated no matter what. Yes but he has pleaded poverty, stated that he struggles to pay his bills and it turned out he is worth millions. I think he is in it for the ego boost he gets from being in the limelight. A lot of these self appointed spokespersons are narcissistic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 6 minutes ago, Vince Green said: Yes but he has pleaded poverty, stated that he struggles to pay his bills and it turned out he is worth millions. I think he is in it for the ego boost he gets from being in the limelight. A lot of these self appointed spokespersons are narcissistic Fair criticism, I will try and look up what he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Vince Green said: Yes but he has pleaded poverty, stated that he struggles to pay his bills Mind you, the shadow chancellor, Rachel Reeves has been complaining that her salary leaves her 'short' towards the end of the month .......... despite her and her husband (a civil servant on over £170K) earning near £1/4M between them and having expenses, subsidised food and usual parliamentary freebies like travel. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12931891/labour-rachel-reeves-bank-balance-gb-news.html Edited January 11 by JohnfromUK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, JohnfromUK said: Mind you, the shadow chancellor, Rachel Reeves has been complaining that her salary leaves her 'short' towards the end of the month .......... despite her and her husband (a civil servant on over £170K) earning near £1/4M between them and having expenses, subsidised food and usual parliamentary freebies like travel. Perhaps she should go looking for a better paid job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 (edited) Average UK worker salary is currently estimated at £38,000. Take home pay each month - £2530.92. Without accounting for pension etc. Rachel Reeves salary of £86,000. With the MP pension contributions, take home pay - £4402.08. £1,871 ish a month more than the ‘average worker’. It’s plenty of money to live comfortably but if you’ve taken a mortgage out years ago, and your mortgage has gone up 4-5-% points, your utilities have gone from less than £100 a month to several hundred, your weekly shop has gone up multiple times over. She is in a similar position to lots of other people. I believe her comments were more around her ‘noticing the impact’ of the cost of living crisis, things costing a lot more and less left over every month. People (Reeves included it seems) made big life decisions on things like house costs/mortgage, whether to send their kids to private school, etc etc, based on what they could afford at the time. Artificially low interest rates have led to people stretching themselves and they are now heavily impacted that rates have gone back up. On Martin Lewis last week loads of people were demanding that “rates must go back down” and he quite rightly said publicly, rates have always been around what they are now and people have been very silly to think they’d stay that low forever. I don’t think Reeves noticing the impact of rises makes her out as something to go mad about. Simply making the comments was foolish though as the media are out to slate anyone they can for a quick headline and it’s played right into their hands. With her husbands massive wage and ability to claim expenses she is hugely insulated against issues the everyday public face, very foolish to think she’d been seen as “one us us” and get some support for those comments. Edited January 11 by Lloyd90 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 18 hours ago, Lloyd90 said: With her husbands massive wage and ability to claim expenses she is hugely insulated against issues the everyday public face, very foolish to think she’d been seen as “one us us” and get some support for those comments. She was VERY foolish indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 19 hours ago, Lloyd90 said: Average UK worker salary is currently estimated at £38,000. Take home pay each month - £2530.92. Without accounting for pension etc. Rachel Reeves salary of £86,000. With the MP pension contributions, take home pay - £4402.08. £1,871 ish a month more than the ‘average worker’. It’s plenty of money to live comfortably but if you’ve taken a mortgage out years ago, and your mortgage has gone up 4-5-% points, your utilities have gone from less than £100 a month to several hundred, your weekly shop has gone up multiple times over. She is in a similar position to lots of other people. I believe her comments were more around her ‘noticing the impact’ of the cost of living crisis, things costing a lot more and less left over every month. People (Reeves included it seems) made big life decisions on things like house costs/mortgage, whether to send their kids to private school, etc etc, based on what they could afford at the time. Artificially low interest rates have led to people stretching themselves and they are now heavily impacted that rates have gone back up. On Martin Lewis last week loads of people were demanding that “rates must go back down” and he quite rightly said publicly, rates have always been around what they are now and people have been very silly to think they’d stay that low forever. I don’t think Reeves noticing the impact of rises makes her out as something to go mad about. Simply making the comments was foolish though as the media are out to slate anyone they can for a quick headline and it’s played right into their hands. With her husbands massive wage and ability to claim expenses she is hugely insulated against issues the everyday public face, very foolish to think she’d been seen as “one us us” and get some support for those comments. She can't manage her own personal finances, yet her and labour think we should trust her with the UK's finances. Unless of course she was lying and her finances are in good shape, which raises a different flaw in her ability to be trusted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 48 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: She can't manage her own personal finances, yet her and labour think we should trust her with the UK's finances. Unless of course she was lying and her finances are in good shape, which raises a different flaw in her ability to be trusted. In a nutshell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 (edited) 20 hours ago, Lloyd90 said: and ability to claim expenses For 2022 - 23 she claimed; Accomodation - £17,626.99 Dependant travel £174.24 MP Travel £3,904.76 Office costs £23,357.33 Staff travel £2,816.00 Staffing £218,568.05 So a total of £266,447.37 - not an inconsiderable sum of taxpayer's money. Source https://www.theipsa.org.uk/mp-staffing-business-costs/your-mp/rachel-reeves/4031 Edited January 12 by JohnfromUK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 3 hours ago, JohnfromUK said: For 2022 - 23 she claimed; Accomodation - £17,626.99 Dependant travel £174.24 MP Travel £3,904.76 Office costs £23,357.33 Staff travel £2,816.00 Staffing £218,568.05 So a total of £266,447.37 - not an inconsiderable sum of taxpayer's money. Source https://www.theipsa.org.uk/mp-staffing-business-costs/your-mp/rachel-reeves/4031 Worth an Oink or two maybe? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Wonder how many staff she has! https://members.parliament.uk/member/4031/registeredinterests Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 1 minute ago, Weihrauch17 said: Wonder how many staff she has! https://members.parliament.uk/member/4031/registeredinterests Based on Lloyd's estimated average wage at least 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 I don't know in Rachel Reeves case, but many MPs 'employ' members of their family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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