ditchman Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 ere we go again....BAE shares continue to rise.....US...UK....Australia...Holland.....giving the Huutis a damn good thrashing........... i wonder if that dodery rastist old idiot (rasist against the UK) known as POTUS.....remembers slagging us off when he lauches the air strikes and we are standing four square behind him he cant even remember going to the toilet are Bidens Irish brigade launching airstrikes beside him ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Do you think the USA and the UK should just sit back and do nothing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted January 12 Author Report Share Posted January 12 (edited) 7 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Do you think the USA and the UK should just sit back and do nothing? coarse i dont............im just saying you shouldnt **** on someone who is your sworn partner in war............Biden fails to realise that....fact is he hates the UK.. but we are standing steadfast with him impressed the Dutch are in the mix with us Edited January 12 by ditchman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Okay, well I don't think we have a choice. He will not make another term, Harris is very quiet and we will see what the next US election brings. We will NEVER have such a good situation as the Reagan/Thatcher years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted January 12 Author Report Share Posted January 12 13 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Okay, well I don't think we have a choice. He will not make another term, Harris is very quiet and we will see what the next US election brings. We will NEVER have such a good situation as the Reagan/Thatcher years. yeah we dont have a choice ...as it is effecting world trade...it will effect the likes of you and me and everyone.......see the Bloody EU mafia are letting us do their dirty work for them.....as per usual......surprised the French arnt supplying the Huuthis with missiles.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 IMHO it is just Iran trying to start WW3 as with Hammas. One of Iran's actions yesterday was to take a Greek (i think) tanker claiming it was American. Just need a couple of Q boats to blow their launches out of the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 We have protected shipping for years from Pirates. This is more of the same. Nowt to do with Israel. The Houthis are not proxies for Iran. Iran and Rusk'is happy to stoke the flames. Where is the rest of the world (Australia and Canada were there)? Its international trade after all. Rusk'is and China to invoke the UN but the UN has a standing mandate to protect trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSpredder Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 3 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Do you think the USA and the UK should just sit back and do nothing? What would be the result of doing nothing about the Houthi? Presumably more ships would take the long route around the Cape. Countries bordering the Red Sea and Suez Canal would have fewer opportunities to disrupt international trade. Does that mean that imports from Asia would cost more, allowing UK manufacturers to be competitive? Or would we end up in an even worse mess? 1 hour ago, Yellow Bear said: Just need a couple of Q boats to blow their launches out of the water. A cheap shell can sink a expensive boat, but what is to be done about drone attacks? We cannot carry on using a £2M missile to shoot down each £2k drone, whether it is in the Middle East, or Ukraine, or anywhere else. There must be a better way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 There was can interview on R4 today with someone who claimed to have studied the Houthis. They are Not strictly a 'tribe' but led by a family line currently lead by Abdul Malik Al Houthi, brother of the founder who was killed by Yemen and have 'tribal' roots They have a strict religious doctrine They have a very high tolerance to loss of life, both their own and others as they are on a religious 'crusade' - like martyrs They want to see Israel 'eliminated' The call themselves "Supporters of God" and have slogans containing the words "death to America", "death to Israel" and a "curse upon the Jews". They claim they will never stop as "God is on their side" As was found with the Taliban in Afghanistan ............. religious fundamentalism is a powerful force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Houthis were warned but gambled 'we'd not risk further mid east action, if we din't back up the warnings they get emboldened. I think the west did Europe's work for them in this matter. Ships coming direct to the UK from the far east aren't going massively further by coming clockwise round around South Africa than partially anticlockwise to get through Gibraltar straights. It's mostly Mediterranean destinations that are badly affected the with those in the east Med faring the worst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Yeah what's 6000 give or take miles in the grand scheme of things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 25 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: Yeah what's 6000 give or take miles in the grand scheme of things I've not measured the miles either way, only looking at the pathway of both doesn't look massively different - but with the suez canal getting ever busier and the current risk in its approach via the Red sea it doesn't seem too big a compromise for a UK deep port destination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 19 minutes ago, Dave-G said: I've not measured the miles either way, only looking at the pathway of both doesn't look massively different - but with the suez canal getting ever busier and the current risk in its approach via the Red sea it doesn't seem too big a compromise for a UK deep port destination. Massive difference and 10 days. Crew wages for say 25, ship hire, fuel costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Come on Dave, simple maths.................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agriv8 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 I see our politicians all clambering to get a sound bite in ! let’s not send the foot soldiers in though just protect the shipping route - give the boat boys and flyboys some ammunition practice! Agriv8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 (edited) Yeah, show them what our/US military are capable of, without putting one boot on the ground (well maybe some special forces to guide some missiles to target). Edited January 12 by Newbie to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 On the BBC news it was calculated to be an extra £2 million in fuel costs per container ship 🤷🏻♂️ You would then split that per container. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 30 minutes ago, shaun4860 said: On the BBC news it was calculated to be an extra £2 million in fuel costs per container ship 🤷🏻♂️ You would then split that per container. Strewth! I seem to have miss-judged that issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 (edited) 1 hour ago, shaun4860 said: On the BBC news it was calculated to be an extra £2 million in fuel costs per container ship 🤷🏻♂️ You would then split that per container. With Rotterdam being the biggest port in Europe, might explain Hollands concern Edited January 12 by islandgun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Looks like "la grenouille" maybe not supporting the effort? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 1 minute ago, old man said: Looks like "la grenouille" maybe not supporting the effort? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Just now, TIGHTCHOKE said: ? Haven't seen any French military support out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Just now, old man said: Haven't seen any French military support out there? They haven't figured out how to make a profit from it yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 So far only the Netherlands, Denmark and Germany have done anything alongside the USA and the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 1 minute ago, islandgun said: They haven't figured out how to make a profit from it yet Mm, it's the usual? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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