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1 hour ago, ShootingEgg said:

 London, Birmingham, Liverpool, Manchester to name a few are all equally as bad. Knowle west is one of the more un savoury areas of Bristol. 

I would agree other towns are up there but stabbings here are so rife now unless dead you won’t even make the news 

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3 minutes ago, clangerman said:

I would agree other towns are up there but stabbings here are so rife now unless dead you won’t even make the news 

Mate of mine who works for AVS would agree with you, it has been rife for years. ££££ drug debt will get you punctured in the leg or Rump ... 

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41 minutes ago, ShootingEgg said:

where they tend to move problem people into. Knowle West being one of these in the past.. 

Never had an issue in the 5+ years I lived there, 2010-2016.  Still own and rent out a place there, looks like the murders took place less than a km from my place.

The pondscum who did this won't get far.  I only hope the cops have got the right people, the retribution will not be pretty otherwise.

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4 minutes ago, udderlyoffroad said:

Never had an issue in the 5+ years I lived there, 2010-2016.  Still own and rent out a place there, looks like the murders took place less than a km from my place.

The pondscum who did this won't get far.  I only hope the cops have got the right people, the retribution will not be pretty otherwise.

I'm going back further that that. It used to have quite the reputation. 

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14 hours ago, JohnfromUK said:

This /\.  Prison needs to be something to be feared for repeat and violent offenders.

The long drop!

 

And a major increase in targeted stop and search, oh no, can't do that it's wacist!!

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Speaking with a serving Police Officer yesterday.  He has joined the Police,  after his Military service. His one fear is, the ages of other Officers he is working with. He described it as working with kids, the average age being mid 20's. It seems that most of the older Officers have either left through medical issues or retirement. Maybe this is why so many Police Officers get attacked, no 'street wise' experience  ?

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5 minutes ago, Westley said:

Speaking with a serving Police Officer yesterday.  He has joined the Police,  after his Military service. His one fear is, the ages of other Officers he is working with. He described it as working with kids, the average age being mid 20's. It seems that most of the older Officers have either left through medical issues or retirement. Maybe this is why so many Police Officers get attacked, no 'street wise' experience  ?

a copper who lives on the same cul de sac as me who is ex RAF can't wait to get out because of the woke leftist recruits that now infest the police.

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4 minutes ago, Westley said:

Speaking with a serving Police Officer yesterday.  He has joined the Police,  after his Military service. His one fear is, the ages of other Officers he is working with. He described it as working with kids, the average age being mid 20's. It seems that most of the older Officers have either left through medical issues or retirement. Maybe this is why so many Police Officers get attacked, no 'street wise' experience  ?


The pay is peanuts for the amount of work, risk, unsocial hours/shifts etc. 

They are recruiting university leavers and young people early in their careers who are currently in fairly low paid positions so don’t realise how awful the pay and conditions are, and are used to living in house shares where they’re renting a room and so aren’t expecting a normal standard of living. 
 

They are losing staff to all sorts of other jobs where the pay is better / similar without the shift work / hours, huge workload and massive criticism. 
 

They are also definitely not street wise / world wise and it adds to the risk and issues. 
 

They also then have to promote from these pools of people as that’s the majority of staff they have, and those same staff end up in senior / detective roles, hence the stats on prosecutions being so poor.  
 

There are some fantastic officers in the job working their ***** off but they can only do so much. 
 

I imagine people will however make silly comments saying that cuts to public services aren’t to blame and the Police are just lazy and have loads of cash. 

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They are coming straight out of full time education where they have been completely brainwashed. However, when I joined in the early 70's,  more were leaving rather than joining. Forces were reluctant to take on new Officers, due to pending Boundary changes. When they occurred,  many trained Officers were forced to move Forces, into the newly formed Counties. Most of the Officers leaving were going into the car manufacturing business, like Ford's or Vauxhall. The pay was double that of their current earnings. This was under a Labour government. The 'big' pay rise came when the Conservative Party were voted in. Recruiting suddenly shot up, but there were a lot more older people joining too.

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2 hours ago, Westley said:

Speaking with a serving Police Officer yesterday.  He has joined the Police,  after his Military service. His one fear is, the ages of other Officers he is working with. He described it as working with kids, the average age being mid 20's. It seems that most of the older Officers have either left through medical issues or retirement. Maybe this is why so many Police Officers get attacked, no 'street wise' experience  ?

Who no doubt will have all been through the indoctrination camps  universities.

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1 hour ago, Lloyd90 said:

I imagine people will however make silly comments saying that cuts to public services aren’t to blame and the Police are just lazy and have loads of cash. 

Way to try and shutdown any responses, dismiss them as 'silly' before any are made.

Fact is policing is almost nonexistent, (unless you are a motorist that is, but that is all done with cameras), what has caused that, I'm not sure.

But I remember all the riots because some scumbag criminal was shot by the police (I say riots, it was just mass looting), the police again just stood by and recorded the events in the hope they could look back and get convictions. Bit like they do with motorists. Or the nonexistent policing of those breaking the law during certain protests, and the complete opposite for others. Not sure where underfunding comes in with that one.

The looting example is not policing, it is admitting defeat, thus some of the reason we are where we are, criminals do not fear the police or getting caught, because the chances of seeing either is miniscule.

As for the protest example, well that is just political bias in an organisation that to operate needs to be impartial and just uphold the law.

Policing in the UK is broken.

And as for the so called justice system.........

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24 minutes ago, Newbie to this said:

Way to try and shutdown any responses, dismiss them as 'silly' before any are made.

Fact is policing is almost nonexistent, (unless you are a motorist that is, but that is all done with cameras), what has caused that, I'm not sure.

But I remember all the riots because some scumbag criminal was shot by the police (I say riots, it was just mass looting), the police again just stood by and recorded the events in the hope they could look back and get convictions. Bit like they do with motorists. Or the nonexistent policing of those breaking the law during certain protests, and the complete opposite for others. Not sure where underfunding comes in with that one.

The looting example is not policing, it is admitting defeat, thus some of the reason we are where we are, criminals do not fear the police or getting caught, because the chances of seeing either is miniscule.

As for the protest example, well that is just political bias in an organisation that to operate needs to be impartial and just uphold the law.

Policing in the UK is broken.

And as for the so called justice system.........

you missed the avaricious over policing bit about miss gendering in your second paragraph which is apparently now more serious than murder or rape.👍

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10 hours ago, Lloyd90 said:

The pay is peanuts for the amount of work, risk, unsocial hours/shifts etc. 

The pensions, benefits and four days off coming off shift, are unsurpassed by anything the private sector can offer.

However, you do end up dealing with the worst humanity has to offer, and to have to knock on doors to tell mothers their son has been killed driving into a tree, possibly having assisted to scrape said yoof off the tree 30mins previously.

When considered like this, the pay will never match what we ask police officers to do.  So let's not get tied in knots re pay.  It is the very definition of a vocation.

I have to say, having visited Bristol a couple of times recently including yesterday, AVS do seem to be making something of a dent.  The place doesn't seem to stink of weed as much as it did, and there were plenty of families out for a stroll along the floating harbour, and the cafés/pubs were busy.  True, they were also arresting people for murder of teenagers on a rough estate, but it seems like they didn't have to look long for the alleged offenders.

And let's not pretend the police senior management can't seem to find infinite resources for arresting people for hurty words on the internet, and calling themselves institutionally waycist, in a way only the public sector can.

 

 

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