Missing Jay Slater

[harrycatcat1]

This has been gong on for over a week now and there are lots of theories. 

One thing I read today is that someone says they can track his phone even though its dead or switched off.

I have also read on some Facebook sites where folks have lost their phone they say " contact so and so" they will track it. (I thought that these were scammers) Is it possible to track a phone if its battery is dead or switched off 🤔 

[Wymondley]

A quick Google gives this...

"Find My iPhone will not be able to track the location of your phone if it's completely dead. Once the device's battery charge level runs out, the device cannot transmit its location over the network. But don't panic—iPhones send their last known location to Apple automatically when the battery is critically low".

Assuming he has an iphone, I suspect Android are much the same.

[oldypigeonpopper]

Hello, Interesting thought Harry 🤔, Also not much mentioned of the 2 men he went off with ?? Yes plenty of other theories but it must be a nightmare for family and friends

Edited June 27 by oldypigeonpopper

[Penelope]

He was convicted of an assault with a machete as part of a gang attack and conspricy to supply class A, which will have been cocaine.

 

Not a nice indivual by the sounds of it.

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=jay+slater+conviction&rlz=1C1GCEA_enGB885GB885&oq=jay+slater+conviction&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBggAEEUYOzIGCAAQRRg70gEINzMxN2owajeoAgCwAgA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[JohnfromUK]

1 hour ago, Wymondley said:

But don't panic—iPhones send their last known location to Apple automatically when the battery is critically low".

Assuming he has an iphone, I suspect Android are much the same.

Which is OK for a 'lost' phone that won't move (e.g. dropped or put down and forgotten).  Not much help however if the phone continues to move after the battery gives out and the phone sends it's 'final position'.

IF the papers are to be believed, in the last phone call made, the owner said the battery was down to 1%.  The phone has been uncontactable since then, so it's a reasonable assumption that was at or close to the position the phone will have sent any 'final' position.  I imagine they have looked closely around that area.

[Minky]

Only a month ago we were in the village of Masca which is where this lad was last seen. I  can shed a bit of light on what it is like there.  There is a small road that runs through.   The road has probably 45° degree slopes with very tight hair pin bends  that the coaches have to do 3 point turns  to ascend the next  level.  This is right on the edge of massive drops into very deep  ravines and looking up to VERY STEEP rugged mountains.  It is not a place that anyone would walk into or out of without being trained,  equipped and knowledgeable of the terrain. What I can't get my head around is that this lad walked past houses and inhabitants. Surely anyone would ask for help. He is supposed to have called a friend to tell them that he had fallen and cut his leg,  that he didn't know where he was he had missed the bus and his phone only had 1% battery left.  With the intense heat and humidity, the option of walking out is a non starter.  If you thought of doing it you would struggle up the first incline to the hair pin bend and you'd turn around and go back to the village.  If you collapsed you'd either be on the road or over the side down into a ravine.  But the mountain side of the road is a vertical cliff of rock the ravine side of the road is segmented BIG  concrete blocks solid enough to withstand a car or a coach impact.  If you went between the blocks you would fall a LONG, LONG WAY.  IF  he's there he will only be found by the dogs or the flies.  I hope that someone picked him up and he's partying somewhere but i  don't see it because of the extreme terrain. The flies have it, the flies have it.

The searchers weren't exactly trying very hard and we're just wandering about but the terrain is the killer. I  don't think that he'd be holed up in the village because there's only a few houses there.

Edited June 27 by Minky

[harrycatcat1]

12 hours ago, Minky said:

Only a month ago we were in the village of Masca which is where this lad was last seen. I  can shed a bit of light on what it is like there.  There is a small road that runs through.   The road has probably 45° degree slopes with very tight hair pin bends  that the coaches have to do 3 point turns  to ascend the next  level.  This is right on the edge of massive drops into very deep  ravines and looking up to VERY STEEP rugged mountains.  It is not a place that anyone would walk into or out of without being trained,  equipped and knowledgeable of the terrain. What I can't get my head around is that this lad walked past houses and inhabitants. Surely anyone would ask for help. He is supposed to have called a friend to tell them that he had fallen and cut his leg,  that he didn't know where he was he had missed the bus and his phone only had 1% battery left.  With the intense heat and humidity, the option of walking out is a non starter.  If you thought of doing it you would struggle up the first incline to the hair pin bend and you'd turn around and go back to the village.  If you collapsed you'd either be on the road or over the side down into a ravine.  But the mountain side of the road is a vertical cliff of rock the ravine side of the road is segmented BIG  concrete blocks solid enough to withstand a car or a coach impact.  If you went between the blocks you would fall a LONG, LONG WAY.  IF  he's there he will only be found by the dogs or the flies.  I hope that someone picked him up and he's partying somewhere but i  don't see it because of the extreme terrain. The flies have it, the flies have it.

The searchers weren't exactly trying very hard and we're just wandering about but the terrain is the killer. I  don't think that he'd be holed up in the village because there's only a few houses there.

Yes it's certainly a mystery 🤔

[Penelope]

12 hours ago, Minky said:

Only a month ago we were in the village of Masca which is where this lad was last seen. I  can shed a bit of light on what it is like there.  There is a small road that runs through.   The road has probably 45° degree slopes with very tight hair pin bends  that the coaches have to do 3 point turns  to ascend the next  level.  This is right on the edge of massive drops into very deep  ravines and looking up to VERY STEEP rugged mountains.  It is not a place that anyone would walk into or out of without being trained,  equipped and knowledgeable of the terrain. What I can't get my head around is that this lad walked past houses and inhabitants. Surely anyone would ask for help. He is supposed to have called a friend to tell them that he had fallen and cut his leg,  that he didn't know where he was he had missed the bus and his phone only had 1% battery left.  With the intense heat and humidity, the option of walking out is a non starter.  If you thought of doing it you would struggle up the first incline to the hair pin bend and you'd turn around and go back to the village.  If you collapsed you'd either be on the road or over the side down into a ravine.  But the mountain side of the road is a vertical cliff of rock the ravine side of the road is segmented BIG  concrete blocks solid enough to withstand a car or a coach impact.  If you went between the blocks you would fall a LONG, LONG WAY.  IF  he's there he will only be found by the dogs or the flies.  I hope that someone picked him up and he's partying somewhere but i  don't see it because of the extreme terrain. The flies have it, the flies have it.

The searchers weren't exactly trying very hard and we're just wandering about but the terrain is the killer. I  don't think that he'd be holed up in the village because there's only a few houses there.

Who cares; I think the world would be better off without him, given his previous.

[Mungler]

1 hour ago, Penelope said:

Who cares; I think the world would be better off without him, given his previous.

This. Sad I’m sure etc. but honestly I couldn’t care any less.

[Bigbob]

Everything you read reckons his past has caught up with him 

[Gordon R]

I have visited Rishton many, many times, because the Threlfall family have run their clay shoot there since the late 1970s. It isn't an inner city area like Moss Side and I was astonished to read he was part of a machete gang. Hardly in keeping with the area.

When I first heard that he was missing, I felt the same as any person would - hoped he was okay and would be found. The more I read of his past, I care a whole lot less. He is a person and I wouldn't wish death on him, but have wondered if his past or even current activities have played a part in his disappearance.

It seems a bit odd that the Gofundme page monies were originally said to be spent on search parties. I now read that they are being used for his family and friends to fly out there to help with the search and lend support. Perhaps I am cynical, but I do wonder how long the "friends" will be in the sunshine lending support.

That said, I will be interested to see if we ever find out the full script.

 

[Lloyd90]

3 hours ago, Penelope said:

Who cares; I think the world would be better off without him, given his previous.

Live by the sword, die by the sword. 
 

Lots of rumours he owed significant amounts of cash to organised crime and vicious armed assaults on people. 
 

Whether accidental or intentional, the world will be better off without him. 
 

The family always say what lovely people they were at times like this. 

[Penelope]

28 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said:

Live by the sword, die by the sword. 
 

Lots of rumours he owed significant amounts of cash to organised crime and vicious armed assaults on people. 
 

Whether accidental or intentional, the world will be better off without him. 
 

The family always say what lovely people they were at times like this. 

Wouldn't surprise me if he was seen by someone heavy or associated with that world and action has been taken.

[steve_b_wales]

7 hours ago, Mungler said:

This. Sad I’m sure etc. but honestly I couldn’t care any less.

Karma has a funny way of showing itself. Sad for his parents, but for a low life 'person' like him, I couldn't care one bit.

[Mungler]

I’ve written about the Tom Daley principle before and as told to me by an HMRC tax inspector - if you’re an Olympic diver you don’t wake up one day and hit the highest board and perform a perfect dive; you’ve had an awful lot of practice and experience on the way there.

I don’t think chummy woke up one day and out of the blue got involved in a machete attack.

Now add in, who do you know who other than in defence of their family, could wield and cleave a machete into another human being? I don’t know anyone like that, probably because I don’t know many total scumbags and nor would I wish to.

It is what it is. Why anyone is interested or motivated to throw money in the general direction of this family, lovely as though I’m sure they all are, I really don’t know. I guess they’re either gullible muppets or far greater humanitarians than me.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

1 minute ago, Mungler said:

I’ve written about the Tom Daley principle before and as told to me by an HMRC tax inspector - if you’re an Olympic diver you don’t wake up one day and hit the highest board and perform a perfect dive; you’ve had an awful lot of practice and experience on the way there.

I don’t think chummy woke up one day and out of the blue got involved in a machete attack.

Now add in, who do you know who other than in defence of their family, could wield and cleave a machete into another human being? I don’t know anyone like that, probably because I don’t know many total scumbags and nor would I wish to.

It is what it is. Why anyone is interested or motivated to throw money in the general direction of this family, lovely as though I’m sure they all are, I really don’t know. I guess they’re either gullible muppets or far greater humanitarians than me.

Yes, VERY well put.   

 

I am amazed at the gullibility of many and quite why the story is regarded as newsworthy at all?   

[oldypigeonpopper]

22 hours ago, Penelope said:

Wouldn't surprise me if he was seen by someone heavy or associated with that world and action has been taken.

Hello, Hence the 2 men who as stated went off with ????

[Zoli 12 guage]

there's a hell of a lot of ocean surrounding such a small island 🤔

just saying👍

[oldypigeonpopper]

Hello, It has just been reported that local Police have stopped the search but no other details

[.357shooter]

so this is what boils my **** about this story.in 30mins anybody could have got the full story about this criminal.instead the press reports young man on holiday goes missing.nothing about his history.people not doing their job and making up **** about a innocent young man and trying to make us feel sorry for him.

[marsh man]

It was reported this afternoon that a body believed to be the missing lad have been found in the area where he went missing , now waiting for the post mortem to confirm if it is him.

MM.

[Minky]

On 27/06/2024 at 20:44, Minky said:

Only a month ago we were in the village of Masca which is where this lad was last seen. I  can shed a bit of light on what it is like there.  There is a small road that runs through.   The road has probably 45° degree slopes with very tight hair pin bends  that the coaches have to do 3 point turns  to ascend the next  level.  This is right on the edge of massive drops into very deep  ravines and looking up to VERY STEEP rugged mountains.  It is not a place that anyone would walk into or out of without being trained,  equipped and knowledgeable of the terrain. What I can't get my head around is that this lad walked past houses and inhabitants. Surely anyone would ask for help. He is supposed to have called a friend to tell them that he had fallen and cut his leg,  that he didn't know where he was he had missed the bus and his phone only had 1% battery left.  With the intense heat and humidity, the option of walking out is a non starter.  If you thought of doing it you would struggle up the first incline to the hair pin bend and you'd turn around and go back to the village.  If you collapsed you'd either be on the road or over the side down into a ravine.  But the mountain side of the road is a vertical cliff of rock the ravine side of the road is segmented BIG  concrete blocks solid enough to withstand a car or a coach impact.  If you went between the blocks you would fall a LONG, LONG WAY.  IF  he's there he will only be found by the dogs or the flies.  I hope that someone picked him up and he's partying somewhere but i  don't see it because of the extreme terrain. The flies have it, the flies have it.

The searchers weren't exactly trying very hard and we're just wandering about but the terrain is the killer. I  don't think that he'd be holed up in the village because there's only a few houses there.

The mountain side of the road is a vertical cliff of rock the ravine side of the road is segmented BIG  concrete blocks solid enough to withstand a car or a coach impact.  If you went between the blocks you would fall a LONG, LONG WAY.  IF  he's there he will only be found by the dogs or the flies.  I  don't see it because of the extreme terrain. The flies have it, the flies have it.

The searchers weren't exactly trying very hard and we're just wandering about but the terrain is the killer.

3 hours ago, marsh man said:

It was reported this afternoon that a body believed to be the missing lad have been found in the area where he went missing , now waiting for the post mortem to confirm if it is him.

MM.