Westley Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 22 minutes ago, ditchman said: i think a small part of this RIOT (because that what it is) is anger......but the major part of it is just thugs out for some excitment...knowing the police are a bunch of pussies.......there was a very very short report that a mosque or some other religous place was attatcked and thats why the cops turned up... we talked about this "unrest" several times on PW months ago.......and i rekon it is going to become more frequent...as the authorites have had their teeth drawn thank you Blair for withdrawing the Riot act.......mind you he is safe ...got plenty of money and dont care... And who do you think has made the Police a load of 'Pussies' ? Do you honestly believe that if those currently stood behind riot shields were to act more 'robustly ', they would not be plastered all over the media tomorrow ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 21 minutes ago, Zoli 12 guage said: don't know about anyone else but I hear conversations daily where local people are fed up with what's going on in this country and how some groups can march/protest with impunity flying any flag they like and chant what they like but any indigenous marching and saint George/union flag flying and for some reason the truncheons come out. these are not my feelings but it's what i hear regularly and i feel it will only get worse. This. Two tier Policing is absolutely blatant in this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 12 minutes ago, Westley said: And who do you think has made the Police a load of 'Pussies' ? Do you honestly believe that if those currently stood behind riot shields were to act more 'robustly ', they would not be plastered all over the media tomorrow ? we all know who has drawn the teeth of the police..........those police standing there taking **** are brave men....and their govt HAS LET THEM DOWN............i dont give a toss what the media think.....they need to do the job that was invented for....LAW &ORDER.....give them the tools to do the job and they will do it........when i was a young nipper when me and my mates saw the old bill going thro the village on a bike ...it put the fear of god into us............. until things change the police are no better than a cross between Target practice & butch social workers......they are constantly laughed at.....i want our police to be feared and respected.....this govt and successive govts' ARE /HAVE LOST CONTROL of law and order........ am i wrong ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 10 minutes ago, ditchman said: we all know who has drawn the teeth of the police..........those police standing there taking **** are brave men....and their govt HAS LET THEM DOWN............i dont give a toss what the media think.....they need to do the job that was invented for....LAW &ORDER.....give them the tools to do the job and they will do it........when i was a young nipper when me and my mates saw the old bill going thro the village on a bike ...it put the fear of god into us............. until things change the police are no better than a cross between Target practice & butch social workers......they are constantly laughed at.....i want our police to be feared and respected.....this govt and successive govts' ARE /HAVE LOST CONTROL of law and order........ am i wrong ? Not at all, your spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 fact of life you will never have respect for someone you fear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 1 hour ago, Mice! said: I don't see what the police can do, people have had enough, this is just the latest incident and it's always to do with immigrants just lately, how or why is a 17 year old born in Wales on a watch list?? It can surely only be religious?? I don't see how it can, but then I don't know what would. Bring me upto speed. This killer is an immigrant from Wales? What has religion got to do with the killer? 5 minutes ago, clangerman said: fact of life you will never have respect for someone you fear! This ^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 1 minute ago, oowee said: Bring me upto speed. This killer is an immigrant from Wales? What has religion got to do with the killer? No one knows as of now who this person is , it has not been released yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 My Grandson works in the area where the unrest is occurring. He tells me the 'mob' cheered when an injured Bobby was carried away. Religion has absolutely nothing to do with the riots, that is the excuse for the EDL to damage a Mosque and other property. Thankfully the area is away from the town centre so looting is not on the agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 5 minutes ago, johnphilip said: No one knows as of now who this person is , it has not been released yet Thankyou. I thought I had missed something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 17 minutes ago, clangerman said: fact of life you will never have respect for someone you fear! dont believe that fact..in the way you have written it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 3 minutes ago, oowee said: Thankyou. I thought I had missed something. Police say the arrested person was born and grew up in Wales - nothing more said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 4 minutes ago, oowee said: Bring me upto speed. This killer is an immigrant from Wales? What has religion got to do with the killer? His parents were immigrants, his brother moved to Southport, why was the 17 year old on a watch list?? I doubt any of the under 16s at my rugby club will be on a watch list. Why are people demonstrating outside a mosque in Southport?? Why would he travel in a taxi to attack and kill innocent children?? 7 minutes ago, johnphilip said: No one knows as of now who this person is , it has not been released yet They know who his family are, where he lived, but they're not releasing it because of his age, but you can bet everyone in the area now knows who him and his brother are. 8 minutes ago, Westley said: Religion has absolutely nothing to do with the riots, that is the excuse for the EDL to damage a Mosque and other property. Thankfully the area is away from the town centre so looting is not on the agenda. Watching the news they said the trouble wasn't caused by locals, so EDL sounds right, but emotions are running high. Why the PM and others felt the need to show up the day after this happened I don't know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 10 minutes ago, Westley said: My Grandson works in the area where the unrest is occurring. He tells me the 'mob' cheered when an injured Bobby was carried away. Religion has absolutely nothing to do with the riots, that is the excuse for the EDL to damage a Mosque and other property. Thankfully the area is away from the town centre so looting is not on the agenda. I thought the EDL had disbanded years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 3 minutes ago, johnphilip said: I thought the EDL had disbanded years ago. They have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 4 minutes ago, Mice! said: His parents were immigrants, his brother moved to Southport, why was the 17 year old on a watch list?? I doubt any of the under 16s at my rugby club will be on a watch list. Why are people demonstrating outside a mosque in Southport?? Why would he travel in a taxi to attack and kill innocent children?? They know who his family are, where he lived, but they're not releasing it because of his age, but you can bet everyone in the area now knows who him and his brother are. Watching the news they said the trouble wasn't caused by locals, so EDL sounds right, but emotions are running high. Why the PM and others felt the need to show up the day after this happened I don't know? There must be a lot of these so called EDL members living in that area 1 minute ago, Weihrauch17 said: They have. Just an excuse for Sky news , who called it them , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 Just now, johnphilip said: There must be a lot of these so called EDL members living in that area They'll have travelled from all over the NW, they all turned up in Barrow a few years ago when a women accused others of rape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 5 minutes ago, Mice! said: His parents were immigrants, his brother moved to Southport, why was the 17 year old on a watch list?? I doubt any of the under 16s at my rugby club will be on a watch list. Why are people demonstrating outside a mosque in Southport?? Why would he travel in a taxi to attack and kill innocent children?? They know who his family are, where he lived, but they're not releasing it because of his age, but you can bet everyone in the area now knows who him and his brother are. Watching the news they said the trouble wasn't caused by locals, so EDL sounds right, but emotions are running high. Why the PM and others felt the need to show up the day after this happened I don't know? Why would he not want to show his respects? I would go too if I could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 8 minutes ago, oowee said: Why would he not want to show his respects? I would go too if I could. He should have left it a few days, there's enough going on for the police as it is, another MP went, but I missed her name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 15 minutes ago, oowee said: Why would he not want to show his respects? I would go too if I could. Probably because Politicians are despised for mass immigration and the associated crime and breakdown of society that goes with it. Today he invites thousands more Afghans over to join family the day after Southport, talk about tone deaf. Absolutely unbelievable. People have had enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 7 minutes ago, Weihrauch17 said: Probably because Politicians are despised for mass immigration and the associated crime and breakdown of society that goes with it. Today he invites thousands more Afghans over to join family the day after Southport, talk about tone deaf. Absolutely unbelievable. People have had enough. Ah I didn't realise it was his fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 (edited) 6 minutes ago, oowee said: Ah I didn't realise it was his fault. It is he is a Politician who has been party to mass uncontrolled immigration who on day one in the job has increased the trend with an invite to every migrant in Europe to come here and get amnesty and benefits and giving the thumbs up today for thousands more Afghans to come here. Edited July 30 by Weihrauch17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100milesaway Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 (edited) 2 hours ago, johnphilip said: I thought the EDL had disbanded years ago. It was and still is, but that wont inflame the narrative. from Auntie. Edited July 31 by 100milesaway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoli 12 guage Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 7 hours ago, ShootingEgg said: Police say the arrested person was born and grew up in Wales - nothing more said and was this piece of **** invisible while he committed this atrocity and while he was dragged to the paddy wagon. everyone in the class and locals in the surrounding area that turned up to see what the fuss was weren't registered blind. everyone has a smart phone and access to some sort of social media AND i'm absolutely astounded that no "private" footage of this hasn't been released on Facebook,tick tock etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoli 12 guage Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 (edited) 7 hours ago, ShootingEgg said: Police say the arrested person was born and grew up in Wales - nothing more said and was this piece of **** invisible while he committed this atrocity and while he was dragged to the paddy wagon. everyone in the class and locals in the surrounding area that turned up to see what the fuss was weren't registered blind. everyone has a smart phone and access to some sort of social media AND i'm absolutely astounded that no "private" footage of this hasn't been released on Facebook,tick tock etc. serious question, when was the last time there was a riot instigated by normal "white English" people in this country? i've been thinking and can't remember one 🤔 Edited July 31 by Zoli 12 guage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 10 minutes ago, Zoli 12 guage said: serious question, when was the last time there was a riot instigated by normal "white English" people in this country? i've been thinking and can't remember one 🤔 that would be yesterday when such comments as chuck the kid from a helicopter he should be shot or slashed so he bleeds to death inspired cretins to injure 30 police officers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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