How Are You Finding The Start Of These Long Ole Nights ?

[London Best]

I think I am right in saying that if “they left the clocks alone” then we would be on GMT all year. It is BST which is the alteration? That would mean it would be getting light soon after 2am in midsummer.

[marsh man]

2 hours ago, London Best said:

Definitely the best time of year. 
It means the proper shooting season is here. 
I thought this was supposed to be a shooting forum?

I do agree up to a point and I do like every season of the year , the ( proper ) shooting season have always made the Winter months much more bearable , but when I was working I didn't find it much fun going to work in the dark and coming home in the dark but I still found plenty of time to go wildfowling under the moon and even had the odd duck flight while still at work , if you wanted something bad enough then you found time from somewhere to do it .

[claydodger]

2 hours ago, London Best said:

I have done plenty in the dark as well. What I don’t shoot is clay pigeons. Well, very, very rarely.

Same here, as for clay pigeons I even miss them in daylight.

[London Best]

1 minute ago, claydodger said:

Same here, as for clay pigeons I even miss them in daylight.

I am bored to death after about six shots at clays.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Just now, London Best said:

I am bored to death after about six shots at clays.

Really, you never mention it..........................................MUCH.................................

[London Best]

Just now, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Really, you never mention it..........................................MUCH.................................

Sorry!

[JKD]

4 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Now considering this has gone on for an awful long time how come you old people haven't got used to it yet?    

I can't remember the last time it happened,,,, 12 months ago 🤪😂

[Miserableolgit]

15 hours ago, Minky said:

Simple remedy for all of that is to ignore time shift.  One good thing is that you can get out on patrol night shooting earlier with the longer hours of darkness.   Also the darker evenings and nights tend to keep the idiots at home watching Coronation street or similar rubbish. 

I can't ignore it I'm afraid, it takes a bit of time for my digestive and other systems to adjust to artificial time changes, to me it's similar in effect to mild jet lag. In fact it's worse now I'm in my late 60's and since having cancer with all the drugs that still entails. I relish what the late summer, autumn and winter months, in fact the various shooting and other opportunities all the seasons present but nowadays would personally find it easier to have a fixed time all year round.
 

[Bigbob]

After i have done what has to be done and the grandkids are off home i usually watch a dvd or two then i can be up till 2am reading a book I used to do a 12 hour shift in the garage making rabbit , fox nets but there no selling and its too cold now the clocks have changed 

[marsh man]

4 hours ago, Miserableolgit said:

I can't ignore it I'm afraid, it takes a bit of time for my digestive and other systems to adjust to artificial time changes, to me it's similar in effect to mild jet lag. In fact it's worse now I'm in my late 60's and since having cancer with all the drugs that still entails. I relish what the late summer, autumn and winter months, in fact the various shooting and other opportunities all the seasons present but nowadays would personally find it easier to have a fixed time all year round.
 

Once the clocks change in the Spring you can start to climatise yourself with the daylight getting longer , then from the longest day you hardly notice the decline , your body just start to getting used to it when all of a sudden overnight you have lost an hour , the mornings don't bother me but it's the dark nights and very soon it will be the dark afternoons , we try and finish the game shoots at 3.30 pm running up to Christmas and yet we are still picking up in the nigh on dark , still there is nothing we can do about it so we have to just grin and bear it . 

[Bigbob]

4 minutes ago, marsh man said:

Once the clocks change in the Spring you can start to climatise yourself with the daylight getting longer , then from the longest day you hardly notice the decline , your body just start to getting used to it when all of a sudden overnight you have lost an hour , the mornings don't bother me but it's the dark nights and very soon it will be the dark afternoons , we try and finish the game shoots at 3.30 pm running up to Christmas and yet we are still picking up in the nigh on dark , still there is nothing we can do about it so we have to just grin and bear it . 

Same here i hate the dark nights  we used to travel for ferreting leave the house at 6am to be at a farm for first light and you often had to end ferreting at 3pm incase you had a ferret kill to ground in the dark but many's the time we still had to dig them out by torch light them home in the dark and sort all the gear out it was a vicious circle going to work in the dark and coming home in the dark far better being retired and you can actually do your own stuff in daylight 

[Dougy]

When i planned on retiring people said dont do it in the winter, "you'll be bored with the dark nights and cold weather"

 

Best time of the year, stalking in the day, high seat or on foot and then foxing after with still time left at the end of the day for a pint in the local.  

[7daysinaweek]

The only thing about the deep winter time is that I don't see any daylight because I go to work in the dark and come home in the dark, 14 hour days, this can be for several consecutive days making me feel like a mole. The unit I work in has little natural light as the windows are masked out as they are clinical rooms, and many of the rooms are rooms within rooms.

We actually have one room, which is a room, within a room, within a room. Sometimes I think I am in a tesseract.

Gawd help any patient that gets lost in there. 

[marsh man]

10 hours ago, 7daysinaweek said:

The only thing about the deep winter time is that I don't see any daylight because I go to work in the dark and come home in the dark, 14 hour days, this can be for several consecutive days making me feel like a mole. The unit I work in has little natural light as the windows are masked out as they are clinical rooms, and many of the rooms are rooms within rooms.

We actually have one room, which is a room, within a room, within a room. Sometimes I think I am in a tesseract.

Gawd help any patient that gets lost in there. 

I would find that very hard to get used to but thank god there are people like you who do and can work in these sort of conditions 

I recently had a full body scan in a unit that was outside of the J P hospital , I went into this ( room ) and laid on the bed , no windows but there were four panels in the ceiling and I was looking at a lovely clear Blue sky with the odd fluffy cloud drifting across , a perfect Summers day , it wasn't till I came back out and it was dull with light rain that I was looking at a picture of a sky 

[amateur]

5 minutes ago, marsh man said:

I would find that very hard to get used to but thank god there are people like you who do and can work in these sort of conditions 

I recently had a full body scan in a unit that was outside of the J P hospital , I went into this ( room ) and laid on the bed , no windows but there were four panels in the ceiling and I was looking at a lovely clear Blue sky with the odd fluffy cloud drifting across , a perfect Summers day , it wasn't till I came back out and it was dull with light rain that I was looking at a picture of a sky 

At least it wasn't a picture of an old bloke with a beard surrounded by harp-playing beings.

That really would have confused you. 🤣

[marsh man]

1 hour ago, amateur said:

At least it wasn't a picture of an old bloke with a beard surrounded by harp-playing beings.

That really would have confused you. 🤣

Yea or two Pearly Gates with a welcome sign outside with my number on it .  

[Bigbob]

1 minute ago, marsh man said:

Yea or two Pearly Gates with a welcome sign outside with my number on it .  

I keep telling the wife only the good die young so i am on borrowed time and wont see xmas LOL 

[Lloyd90]

On 27/10/2024 at 20:37, marsh man said:

I don't know about you but my god it seem a long ole night , I have been out for most of the day and had a nice walk around Ranworth Broad , the sun was out and the day was as good as any Summers day , I then cut across to N / Walsham to do a bit of shopping in Waitrose , the only small disaster was the free coffee machine was out of order so no free coffee , getting back home I took my dog out and it was already getting dark and it was only just gone 5 o clock , time I walked around a couple of fields it was dark , got back home and had a cuppa before I put my tea on , I am now watching the Antiques Roadshow and it is now only 8 . 30 and yet it seem I have been home for ages , I like the time of the year but these dark early nights are going to take some getting used to . How do you find them ?     MM 

I thought you said you were a poor OAP? 😝

You need to get a good log burner, better than watching the tally on the cold wet nights 
 

 

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[ditchman]

1 hour ago, marsh man said:

I would find that very hard to get used to but thank god there are people like you who do and can work in these sort of conditions 

I recently had a full body scan in a unit that was outside of the J P hospital , I went into this ( room ) and laid on the bed , no windows but there were four panels in the ceiling and I was looking at a lovely clear Blue sky with the odd fluffy cloud drifting across , a perfect Summers day , it wasn't till I came back out and it was dull with light rain that I was looking at a picture of a sky 

christ john ...what was the medication they were giving you ?...............were there angels and cherubs..and scantily dressed godesses ?

[marsh man]

4 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said:

I thought you said you were a poor OAP? 😝

You need to get a good log burner, better than watching the tally on the cold wet nights 
 

 

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I am poor ....... but not as poor as some o a ps 😋 , I can show you my receipt and I don't think I paid full price on anything I bought , after 3pm they reduce stuff that have already been reduced once , I spent about 20 odd quid and got about 50 pounds worth of goodies , the stuff that don't freeze are in the fridge and the rest is in the freezer as a reserve if I can't get out , like I said the only small disaster was the free coffee machine was out of order , and it was well and truly out of order they didn't mend it before I spent a good part of my pension    MM

[marsh man]

14 minutes ago, ditchman said:

christ john ...what was the medication they were giving you ?...............were there angels and cherubs..and scantily dressed godesses ?

I don't know really what medication they injected into my side , the lady said you might feel as if you want to go to the loo and your bum will feel as if it is getting warm , I felt neither so whatever it was didn't have the desired results  

[7daysinaweek]

2 hours ago, marsh man said:

I would find that very hard to get used to but thank god there are people like you who do and can work in these sort of conditions 

I recently had a full body scan in a unit that was outside of the J P hospital , I went into this ( room ) and laid on the bed , no windows but there were four panels in the ceiling and I was looking at a lovely clear Blue sky with the odd fluffy cloud drifting across , a perfect Summers day , it wasn't till I came back out and it was dull with light rain that I was looking at a picture of a sky 

Hi MM,

that's the nhs for you, the odd minute of sunshine, the next gloomy and grey. 

A common observation I have made over the years in seeing patients from a large cross section of society, has been that when this time of year comes around, how much people remark that the longer nights have some impact on their mood and sleep. I think it used to be termed as SAD, seasonal affective disorder. 

I try to keep a cheery dispostion whatever the time of year.

All the very best MM

58 minutes ago, ditchman said:

christ john ...what was the medication they were giving you ?...............were there angels and cherubs..and scantily dressed godesses ?

Once after giving a patient a injection of  midazolam (conscious sedation) about 5 minutes later the patient thought I was his wife. I was not wearing a dress..... not at that time anyway. 

I often think when my time is up, I may be in for a bit of a shock and will be taking the hot elevator downwards. I won't be winning any beauty contests down there. Knowing my luck, I will be paired up with 'Fennela the witch.

Now that will be 'one long ole night' 

40 minutes ago, marsh man said:

I don't know really what medication they injected into my side , the lady said you might feel as if you want to go to the loo and your bum will feel as if it is getting warm , I felt neither so whatever it was didn't have the desired results  

It sounds like contrast injection with dye, it helps the scan and can give arise to some side effects.

I worked a few stints years years back in a radiology dept in a large teaching hospital, I had to wear a lead gonad protector and a lead apron. Talk about heavy metal man!

 

[Scully]

14 hours ago, 7daysinaweek said:

The only thing about the deep winter time is that I don't see any daylight because I go to work in the dark and come home in the dark, 14 hour days, this can be for several consecutive days making me feel like a mole. The unit I work in has little natural light as the windows are masked out as they are clinical rooms, and many of the rooms are rooms within rooms.

We actually have one room, which is a room, within a room, within a room. Sometimes I think I am in a tesseract.

Gawd help any patient that gets lost in there. 

Yeah, that’s grim admittedly. 
I did shift work for over 12 years, and like you say, dark when you go to work, dark when you come home, straight to bed, up at 2pm ish and it’s dark again in a couple of hours. 
I wasn’t under the same pressure as you obviously, but we also had no windows and rooms within rooms, and  there was more than one who suffered over prolonged periods. 

[marsh man]

44 minutes ago, 7daysinaweek said:

Hi MM,

that's the nhs for you, the odd minute of sunshine, the next gloomy and grey. 

A common observation I have made over the years in seeing patients from a large cross section of society, has been that when this time of year comes around, how much people remark that the longer nights have some impact on their mood and sleep. I think it used to be termed as SAD, seasonal affective disorder. 

I try to keep a cheery dispostion whatever the time of year.

All the very best MM

 

It sounds like contrast injection with dye, it helps the scan and can give arise to some side effects

 

I think you are exactly right with the medication , it did have a dye in it and most of the tests I have had have  been no problems found although I am waiting to go to N + N Hospital for another heart test , this one is where a camera go into your groin and then make it's way to my heart , the good thing is I will have to have four hours bed rest afterwards .

Edited October 29 by marsh man

[7daysinaweek]

4 minutes ago, Scully said:

Yeah, that’s grim admittedly. 
I did shift work for over 12 years, and like you say, dark when you go to work, dark when you come home, straight to bed, up at 2pm ish and it’s dark again in a couple of hours. 
I wasn’t under the same pressure as you obviously, but we also had no windows and rooms within rooms, and  there was more than one who suffered over prolonged periods. 

I doff my cap to you Scully, It certainly initially fouls the internal body clock.

It is odd how one individuals body and mind becomes strangely accustomed in mildy opressive working enviroments, and unsocial hours, whereas others cannot. I know some who 'loved' working nights and were on them for years.

Long shifts are no good to man nor beast, and I am still doing them after 35 years. At least now I don't do nights any more. When I worked in coronary intensive care in the very early 90's we used to do a straight 7 day week of nights, which was a 84 hour week, and by the 5th night you could be mildly little stir crazy.  Fortunately this was followed by a few days off, then back onto two weeks of days, then back to the nights, done that for 3 years. I do not miss it.

Many of my friends work some horrendous hours in  all types of jobs any i respect them for that.

I am very fortunate now, I work two 14 hour shifts per week across any of the 7 days and on top of that i do one or two locum sessions in gp land each week, each session is just 4 hours. 

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