Penelope Posted December 6 Report Share Posted December 6 2 minutes ago, Rewulf said: Forgot about that bit. Clearly politically motivated harassment, above the remit of the police, but why are we not surprised? This kind of behaviour seems to be increasingly acceptable, and no one in government is calling it out. Do 'Hope Not Hate' have their insidious sticky little fingers in this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted December 6 Author Report Share Posted December 6 2 hours ago, Penelope said: Do 'Hope Not Hate' have their insidious sticky little fingers in this? Nothing would surprise me these days. A 'non partisan' organisation who describe Reform UK and GB news as 'dangerous' is far from non partisan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted December 6 Report Share Posted December 6 3 hours ago, sportsbob said: To add to this his personal details and also two members of his team has since been leaked onto the internet by the Met in another attempt to intimidate him into surrender, the met say they are now holding in internal investigation regarding this. Sadly it seems that the Met have a history for this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted December 6 Report Share Posted December 6 24 minutes ago, old man said: Sadly it seems that the Met have a history for this? It appears to very much akin to what the Democrats in the states have done; politicised and weaponised the justice system against the percieved right, in an attempt to curtail free speech (stuff they don't want said). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted December 6 Report Share Posted December 6 1 hour ago, Penelope said: It appears to very much akin to what the Democrats in the states have done; politicised and weaponised the justice system against the percieved right, in an attempt to curtail free speech (stuff they don't want said). Unreal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted December 6 Report Share Posted December 6 On 05/12/2024 at 17:08, Rewulf said: The short answer is yes. The subject matter is topical, and in the public interest, how its done and reported is a mater for the recipients of the reporting, if they don't like it, unsubscribe and don't watch it. The perspective is interesting, different due to his background. We could discuss at length various MSM journalists, their professionalism and bias, we get to thankfully choose the news we digest, and act accordingly. Look at the attacks levelled at various right wing news outlets, including Tousi, it just makes people think there is a conspiracy afoot to stifle free speech, which it increasing looks like there is, 8 hours ago, sportsbob said: I have to disagree with you here, personally I think it is "good journalism" , he simply goes out with a camera and live streams reality . He admits he puts his opinion forward but when you watch his streams most people except for the extreme left leaning would have difficulty in disagreeing with him. He simply shows radical views being screamed out by organisations promoting an international terrorist organisation vs the normal middle and right leaning population. OK, answer me this, what news worthy topics does he not report on? Do you at least acknowledge that it’s all a bit one dimensional? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted December 6 Author Report Share Posted December 6 35 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: OK, answer me this, what news worthy topics does he not report on? Do you at least acknowledge that it’s all a bit one dimensional? It's a YouTube channel, not MSM, he does opinion pieces on what he thinks is relevant, if you wanted to know what's happening in the stock market, or what's happening in your local area, you wouldn't go to Tousi for that information? Just because he calls himself a journalist, doesn't mean he has to report on everything! For the record , I don't follow him, I don't really get on with his style of reporting, I just find it disturbing that someone can be threatened with arrest for calling a terrorist organisation, terrorists ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100milesaway Posted December 6 Report Share Posted December 6 (edited) 2 hours ago, Raja Clavata said: OK, answer me this, what news worthy topics does he not report on? Do you at least acknowledge that it’s all a bit one dimensional? Where do I start here , Well firstly he doesn't report on what The Beckams are eating for breakfast or where Rhiana is going on holiday or what is the latest coloured underwear we should all be wearing or 90% of the other non news items which are daily churned out to Joe Public by all the main stream media but then again maybe that is what floats your boat. From Auntie Edited December 6 by 100milesaway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted December 7 Report Share Posted December 7 11 hours ago, Rewulf said: For the record , I don't follow him, I don't really get on with his style of reporting, I just find it disturbing that someone can be threatened with arrest for calling a terrorist organisation, terrorists ! 100% agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsbob Posted December 7 Report Share Posted December 7 15 hours ago, Raja Clavata said: OK, answer me this, what news worthy topics does he not report on? Do you at least acknowledge that it’s all a bit one dimensional? What he doesn't report on is irrelevant, what he does report on is what the government controlled media don't want you to know, it may be regarded as one dimensional but it is certainly multifaceted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted December 7 Report Share Posted December 7 Quote Where do I start here , Well firstly he doesn't report on what The Beckams are eating for breakfast or where Rhiana is going on holiday or what is the latest coloured underwear we should all be wearing or 90% of the other non news items which are daily churned out to Joe Public by all the main stream media but then again maybe that is what floats your boat. From Auntie Accurate and made me smile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted December 7 Report Share Posted December 7 12 hours ago, sportsbob said: What he doesn't report on is irrelevant, what he does report on is what the government controlled media don't want you to know, it may be regarded as one dimensional but it is certainly multifaceted. I don’t agree. In simple terms I get the impression that he appeals to three types: 1. Those who are unable to think for themselves 2. Those who are too lazy to think for themselves 3. Those who are infatuated with an anti-Muslim agenda In some cases I suspect a combination of the above is at play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good shot? Posted December 8 Report Share Posted December 8 9 hours ago, Raja Clavata said: I don’t agree. In simple terms I get the impression that he appeals to three types: 1. Those who are unable to think for themselves 2. Those who are too lazy to think for themselves 3. Those who are infatuated with an anti-Muslim agenda In some cases I suspect a combination of the above is at play. Probably all the "leavers" who didn't know what they voted for I suspect. 🥱 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted December 8 Report Share Posted December 8 11 minutes ago, Good shot? said: Probably all the "leavers" who didn't know what they voted for I suspect. 🥱 Kind of validates my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted December 8 Report Share Posted December 8 I'm suspicious of anyone who dedicates that much time to slating one or two issues. I'm as fed up as anyone with illegal migration and other problems this country is facing, but would I dedicate my life to drumming up discontent and support for a cause like that, no chance, I've better things to do. I feel the same about the likes of Tommy Robinson ect. Some of what they say might seem reasonable, but what's their real thoughts and motivations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted December 8 Report Share Posted December 8 2 hours ago, 12gauge82 said: I'm suspicious of anyone who dedicates that much time to slating one or two issues. I'm as fed up as anyone with illegal migration and other problems this country is facing, but would I dedicate my life to drumming up discontent and support for a cause like that, no chance, I've better things to do. I feel the same about the likes of Tommy Robinson ect. Some of what they say might seem reasonable, but what's their real thoughts and motivations. Exactly! 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedward Posted December 8 Report Share Posted December 8 There’s always the “off” button. 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted December 8 Report Share Posted December 8 3 hours ago, 12gauge82 said: I'm suspicious of anyone who dedicates that much time to slating one or two issues. I'm as fed up as anyone with illegal migration and other problems this country is facing, but would I dedicate my life to drumming up discontent and support for a cause like that, no chance, I've better things to do. I feel the same about the likes of Tommy Robinson ect. Some of what they say might seem reasonable, but what's their real thoughts and motivations. I always thought that there was something dirty about agreeing with any aspect of what the likes of TR were focused on or reporting on. However, I have come to see that that is part of the mechanism of suppressing scrutiny, discussion or dissent. The turning point for me was Rochdale. Without TR we wouldn’t have known or heard about Rochdale at all (indeed we had Labour MPs telling the victims to keep quiet for the sake of diversity) and there certainly wouldn’t have been police action or prosecution - indeed the evidence was that there had been suppression for a decade. That lack of reporting or discussion by MSN is deeply troubling and carries on today. The child victims of the grooming gangs are easily over looked - they were the vulnerable, the forgotten and the bottom rung of society’s ladder. They were the very ones a society should have been actively looking out for and seeking to protect. I know the likes of TR punt a populist view, sneered at by educated liberal elites who live in nice post codes untroubled by the core issues at the centre of the reporting and glossed over / dismissed out of hand as Islamophobia - but to ignore populism or suppress discussion of the underlying issues only adds to give it oxygen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good shot? Posted December 8 Report Share Posted December 8 6 hours ago, Raja Clavata said: Kind of validates my point. Thought so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good shot? Posted December 8 Report Share Posted December 8 I do not get why the so called "educated liberal elite" cannot see what this country has become and especially where it is heading at a fast pace, when I and other less educated plebs see the obvious overturning of our culture and way of life and worse. I dread to think that all this is by design as opposed to a blinkered view, I am however coming around to this way of thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted December 8 Report Share Posted December 8 4 minutes ago, Good shot? said: I do not get why the so called "educated liberal elite" cannot see what this country has become and especially where it is heading at a fast pace, when I and other less educated plebs see the obvious overturning of our culture and way of life and worse. I dread to think that all this is by design as opposed to a blinkered view, I am however coming around to this way of thinking. They can't see it because it's not causing them problems yet . As mungler said , they'll be sitting in a nice house , in a nice postcode. Wait and see how loud they scream when they can't leave the house after dark any more. I never thought it would happen to my area , but it's all happened in the space of five years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted December 8 Report Share Posted December 8 5 hours ago, 12gauge82 said: I'm suspicious of anyone who dedicates that much time to slating one or two issues. I'm as fed up as anyone with illegal migration and other problems this country is facing, but would I dedicate my life to drumming up discontent and support for a cause like that, no chance, I've better things to do. I feel the same about the likes of Tommy Robinson ect. Some of what they say might seem reasonable, but what's their real thoughts and motivations. This ^^^ I am conscious that are belief structures are reinforced by the media we consume. It's much harder to extract and believe in hard data when we are all bombarded by often false narratives on a daily basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good shot? Posted December 8 Report Share Posted December 8 As I thought, I ( at least) am not educated enough to form an opinion like yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted December 8 Report Share Posted December 8 There are very strong belief structures based on post code, what is perceived to be acceptable within individual pier groups / social groups and the image someone wishes to project i.e. a high status opinion, none of which need to be anchored in fact, truth or reason. A good example of this is within the free Palestine brigade and in particular has to be the only reason to explain the existence of the likes of Queers for Palestine, given that actual queers in actual Palestine are indisputably wholesale murdered (stoning, burning and hanging - there’s an interesting report from the UN in 2003 easily found with a simple Google search). However, the point here is that there is no false narrative - it’s just people just choosing to ignore fact to project a high status opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armsid Posted December 8 Report Share Posted December 8 During Browns election campaign (20 plus tears ago) a woman voter asked about immigration , Brown turned to her and called her a racist and this stopped the debate dead in its tracks He wasn,t interested in the voters concerns but his own agenda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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