Here we go.

[.357shooter]

so as i taxpayer i pay for the police to do their job.my council tax no includes to pay the pcc for glos over £273 pounds to do what ?.lets add that figure up in glos alone,got to be over 250 k people at least who all pay that so where does this money go .now they expect us to pay an additional £300 to pay for something we have allready payed for ***.250,000 x £273 =£68250000.

[Newbie to this]

We as shooters do not require police involvement in the sport, the governments and the police do.

[Bear68]

On 20/12/2024 at 19:43, Conor O'Gorman said:

Yes we are and updates will follow. 

Thanks, Conor. 

[cyberduck]

On 18/12/2024 at 08:38, Poor Shot said:

 

Saw this on another forum. Apparently the list of Project Titanium questions emailed out to an applicant.

Not sure it's an issue asking partners for a general opinion.  Some of the questions seem very OTT however.

 

1. Do you know what the applicant/certificate holder uses their weapon for?
2. Has the applicant/certificate holder had poor mental health? If so, did they seek professional help?
3. Are you aware if the applicant/certificate holder is on prescription medicine or non-prescription medications and if so what medication and what for?
4. Has the applicant/certificate holder ever mentioned suicide and if so, what have they said?
5. Has the applicant/certificate holder ever hurt an animal? (not lawful hunting i.e deer stalking)
6. Would the applicant/certificate holder ever hurt a child?
7. Does the applicant/certificate holder have a fascination with, or keen interest in criminality/criminals? 
8. Does the applicant/certificate holder have an interested with weapons, including non-licensed weapons such as cross bows, knives etc?
9. Has the applicant/certificate holder obtained weapons from abroad or the UK that are not licensed?
10. Has the applicant/certificate holder ever threatened to use, or has used a weapon on you?
11. Has the applicant/certificate holder ever threatened to use, or has used a weapon on anyone else? 
12. Is the applicant/certificate holder anti- police?
13. Does the applicant/certificate holder abide by rules and/or authority, or do they find it difficult?
14. Does the applicant/certificate holder ever leave weapons out, in view or clean weapons in front of you to cause fear or control over you?
15. Have you got access to the weapons and/or keys?
16. Are you aware of any previous issues with any ex-partners or family members?
17. In your relationship, do you both make equal decisions, or does the applicant/certificate holder tend to make the decisions?
18. Is there anything you feel you are not allowed or cannot do because of the applicant/certificate holder. For fear of upsetting them?
19. Would the applicant/certificate holder be more inclined to walk away from a fight/argument or start a fight/argument?
20. How much would it bother the applicant/certificate holder if they lost their shotgun/firearms license?
21. Have they ever threatened professionals against you i.e., social services taking the children?
22. If you needed to reach out to authorities/professionals, do you have a fear of not being believed by them and if so, why?
23. Have you ever been fearful of the applicant/certificate holder?
24. Do you and the applicant/certificate holder have a joint or separate bank account?
25. Do you have access to your own to money?
26. Are the weapons/hobbies prioritised over family/household expenditure?
27. Does the applicant/certificate holder have a quick temper?
28. Does the applicant/certificate holder mood affect the rest of the household?
29. Does the applicant/certificate holder behave differently around people outside the house in comparison to in the house?
30. Do you have any concerns around the applicant/certificate holder having a shotgun/firearm?

Edited December 28, 2024 by cyberduck

[TIGHTCHOKE]

WOW!

Quite a list, is this legal or just another FEO making it all up?

Surely that wouldn't have been sent out to an applicant, that would be a list for a face to face interview with an applicants partner?

Edited December 29, 2024 by TIGHTCHOKE

[oldypigeonpopper]

Hello, It is another big knock from the Labour Government to reduce the number of people with FAC and SGC 

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Connor

Is there any update?

The last one was in April 2024.

https://basc.org.uk/project-titanium/

[BobbyH]

I think I read somewhere that the price increase has been authorised to £400

[TIGHTCHOKE]

6 minutes ago, BobbyH said:

I think I read somewhere that the price increase has been authorised to £400

I think you'll find it has been "suggested", not aware that it has been "authorised".

The Government want to get to "full recovery of costs" to the applicant.

[Old farrier]

17 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

I think you'll find it has been "suggested", not aware that it has been "authorised".

The Government want to get to "full recovery of costs" to the applicant.

Not sure if a government body can put a 300%+ price increase on anything although this particular government seems to be doing whatever it wants 🙄🤔

[bruno22rf]

If this is a money raising exercise maybe the Police should look in house, the money they waste is simply mind blowing. 

[grahamch]

Vote for socialist scum and this is what you get. 

[Scully]

19 hours ago, cyberduck said:

 

 

 

Saw this on another forum. Apparently the list of Project Titanium questions emailed out to an applicant.

Not sure it's an issue asking partners for a general opinion.  Some of the questions seem very OTT however.

 

1. Do you know what the applicant/certificate holder uses their weapon for?
2. Has the applicant/certificate holder had poor mental health? If so, did they seek professional help?
3. Are you aware if the applicant/certificate holder is on prescription medicine or non-prescription medications and if so what medication and what for?
4. Has the applicant/certificate holder ever mentioned suicide and if so, what have they said?
5. Has the applicant/certificate holder ever hurt an animal? (not lawful hunting i.e deer stalking)
6. Would the applicant/certificate holder ever hurt a child?
7. Does the applicant/certificate holder have a fascination with, or keen interest in criminality/criminals? 
8. Does the applicant/certificate holder have an interested with weapons, including non-licensed weapons such as cross bows, knives etc?
9. Has the applicant/certificate holder obtained weapons from abroad or the UK that are not licensed?
10. Has the applicant/certificate holder ever threatened to use, or has used a weapon on you?
11. Has the applicant/certificate holder ever threatened to use, or has used a weapon on anyone else? 
12. Is the applicant/certificate holder anti- police?
13. Does the applicant/certificate holder abide by rules and/or authority, or do they find it difficult?
14. Does the applicant/certificate holder ever leave weapons out, in view or clean weapons in front of you to cause fear or control over you?
15. Have you got access to the weapons and/or keys?
16. Are you aware of any previous issues with any ex-partners or family members?
17. In your relationship, do you both make equal decisions, or does the applicant/certificate holder tend to make the decisions?
18. Is there anything you feel you are not allowed or cannot do because of the applicant/certificate holder. For fear of upsetting them?
19. Would the applicant/certificate holder be more inclined to walk away from a fight/argument or start a fight/argument?
20. How much would it bother the applicant/certificate holder if they lost their shotgun/firearms license?
21. Have they ever threatened professionals against you i.e., social services taking the children?
22. If you needed to reach out to authorities/professionals, do you have a fear of not being believed by them and if so, why?
23. Have you ever been fearful of the applicant/certificate holder?
24. Do you and the applicant/certificate holder have a joint or separate bank account?
25. Do you have access to your own to money?
26. Are the weapons/hobbies prioritised over family/household expenditure?
27. Does the applicant/certificate holder have a quick temper?
28. Does the applicant/certificate holder mood affect the rest of the household?
29. Does the applicant/certificate holder behave differently around people outside the house in comparison to in the house?
30. Do you have any concerns around the applicant/certificate holder having a shotgun/firearm?

😂 That’s hilarious! 

[Red carp]

Gun shops are on their knees as it is, if license fees do go up to £400 that will be the final nail for shooting in the UK 🇬🇧 I was going to invest in a new clay gun in the new year but not now simply not worth the hassle & cost of keeping a shotgun certificate 🤮

[London Best]

2 minutes ago, Red carp said:

simply not worth the hassle & cost of keeping a shotgun certificate 🤮

Not much of a shooting man then, are you?

[old'un]

20 hours ago, cyberduck said:

 

 

 

Saw this on another forum. Apparently the list of Project Titanium questions emailed out to an applicant.

Not sure it's an issue asking partners for a general opinion.  Some of the questions seem very OTT however.

 

1. Do you know what the applicant/certificate holder uses their weapon for?
2. Has the applicant/certificate holder had poor mental health? If so, did they seek professional help?
3. Are you aware if the applicant/certificate holder is on prescription medicine or non-prescription medications and if so what medication and what for?
4. Has the applicant/certificate holder ever mentioned suicide and if so, what have they said?
5. Has the applicant/certificate holder ever hurt an animal? (not lawful hunting i.e deer stalking)
6. Would the applicant/certificate holder ever hurt a child?
7. Does the applicant/certificate holder have a fascination with, or keen interest in criminality/criminals? 
8. Does the applicant/certificate holder have an interested with weapons, including non-licensed weapons such as cross bows, knives etc?
9. Has the applicant/certificate holder obtained weapons from abroad or the UK that are not licensed?
10. Has the applicant/certificate holder ever threatened to use, or has used a weapon on you?
11. Has the applicant/certificate holder ever threatened to use, or has used a weapon on anyone else? 
12. Is the applicant/certificate holder anti- police?
13. Does the applicant/certificate holder abide by rules and/or authority, or do they find it difficult?
14. Does the applicant/certificate holder ever leave weapons out, in view or clean weapons in front of you to cause fear or control over you?
15. Have you got access to the weapons and/or keys?
16. Are you aware of any previous issues with any ex-partners or family members?
17. In your relationship, do you both make equal decisions, or does the applicant/certificate holder tend to make the decisions?
18. Is there anything you feel you are not allowed or cannot do because of the applicant/certificate holder. For fear of upsetting them?
19. Would the applicant/certificate holder be more inclined to walk away from a fight/argument or start a fight/argument?
20. How much would it bother the applicant/certificate holder if they lost their shotgun/firearms license?
21. Have they ever threatened professionals against you i.e., social services taking the children?
22. If you needed to reach out to authorities/professionals, do you have a fear of not being believed by them and if so, why?
23. Have you ever been fearful of the applicant/certificate holder?
24. Do you and the applicant/certificate holder have a joint or separate bank account?
25. Do you have access to your own to money?
26. Are the weapons/hobbies prioritised over family/household expenditure?
27. Does the applicant/certificate holder have a quick temper?
28. Does the applicant/certificate holder mood affect the rest of the household?
29. Does the applicant/certificate holder behave differently around people outside the house in comparison to in the house?
30. Do you have any concerns around the applicant/certificate holder having a shotgun/firearm?

Project Titanium, has been developed by Gwent Police with the help of domestic abuse survivors….https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/09/gun-survivors-create-scheme-to-stop-violent-partners-owning-firearms

[Scully]

17 minutes ago, old'un said:

Project Titanium, has been developed by Gwent Police with the help of domestic abuse survivors….https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/09/gun-survivors-create-scheme-to-stop-violent-partners-owning-firearms

Anyone seeing a familiar trend here? 🙂

[Red carp]

27 minutes ago, London Best said:

Not much of a shooting man then, are you?

It’s not that but how many hurdles can they put in front of us ? Now if you told me renewal would be £400 in the future but it would be for 10yrs license that is a different matter but I will end up paying £400 for a renewal + £100 for a doctors report for the same shambles service where is it going to end ? 

Edited December 29, 2024 by Red carp

[London Best]

1 minute ago, Red carp said:

It’s not that but how many hurdles can they put in front of us ? Now if you told me renewal would be £400 in the future but it would be for 10yrs that is a different matter but I will end up paying £400 for a renewal + £100 for a doctors report for the same shambles where is it going to end ? 

‘They’ have been constantly thinking up hurdles and putting them in front of me throughout my 64 year shooting career. I am still here, as keen as ever.

[old'un]

Just now, Scully said:

Anyone seeing a familiar trend here? 🙂

Yes, shooter are becoming an endangered species.

Just now, London Best said:

‘They’ have been constantly thinking up hurdles and putting them in front of me throughout my 64 year shooting career. I am still here, as keen as ever.

Yes, but a lot of shooters have fallen at some of those hurdles.

[Scully]

5 minutes ago, old'un said:

Yes, shooter are becoming an endangered species.

I was thinking more of the numerous reports to Police of threatening and violent behaviour rendering an owner not suitable ( one would have thought ) for the ownership of firearms, but then after seizing them those firearms returned? What happened there then, spouse/partner drops the complaint as in the Atherton case, or Police afraid of over zealous complaints against them? I can’t imagine it to be the latter bearing in mind some of the instances I’ve read about online. 
Anyhow, there’s a few on that list I may struggle with! 😄

[old'un]

8 minutes ago, Scully said:

I was thinking more of the numerous reports to Police of threatening and violent behaviour rendering an owner not suitable ( one would have thought ) for the ownership of firearms, but then after seizing them those firearms returned? What happened there then, spouse/partner drops the complaint as in the Atherton case, or Police afraid of over zealous complaints against them? I can’t imagine it to be the latter bearing in mind some of the instances I’ve read about online. 
Anyhow, there’s a few on that list I may struggle with! 😄

If they really wanted to stop domestic violence then every adult in the UK should be asked the same questions.

Don't worry ill vouch for you on your next renewal.

[Scully]

1 minute ago, old'un said:

If they really wanted to stop domestic violence then every adult in the UK should be asked the same questions.

Don't worry I’ll vouch for you on your next renewal.

Indeed. 👍

Good lad! OH won’t! 😳🙂

[Conor O'Gorman]

9 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Connor

Is there any update?

The last one was in April 2024.

https://basc.org.uk/project-titanium/

Not sure. I will check with the firearms team.

[BobbyH]

Yes, it is a HUGE jump in cost, but as a keen shooter, I will be paying it and that’s that. 
Shooting is my sport, and regardless of the steel stuff, jump in licence cost and whatever else….ill still devote my time and effort into it.

I love it.