old'un Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 What is happening to this country…https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyz2119v6ro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 I don't know what the answer is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted January 12 Author Report Share Posted January 12 3 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: I don't know what the answer is. build more bloody jails for a start and stop letting these criminals out early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spr1985 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Unfortunately I think it’s what “happened” to this country and not what’s happening. The what’s happening is just a symptom of what’s already happened and is only going to get worse. Until punishment fits the crime and discipline is instilled from a young age nothing will change. i was brought up in the 80’s and taught right from wrong and to respect my elders and my peers, I knew from a young age what behaviour was acceptable and what was not. The way I hear youngsters talking to their parents and elders in general is an absolute disgrace, respect for others seems non existent. The country seems to have turned feral and everyone out for themselves. Obviously I’m not tarring all with the same brush but the problems are far reaching and need major change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nublue 22 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 29 minutes ago, Spr1985 said: Unfortunately I think it’s what “happened” to this country and not what’s happening. The what’s happening is just a symptom of what’s already happened and is only going to get worse. Until punishment fits the crime and discipline is instilled from a young age nothing will change. i was brought up in the 80’s and taught right from wrong and to respect my elders and my peers, I knew from a young age what behaviour was acceptable and what was not. The way I hear youngsters talking to their parents and elders in general is an absolute disgrace, respect for others seems non existent. The country seems to have turned feral and everyone out for themselves. Obviously I’m not tarring all with the same brush but the problems are far reaching and need major change 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted January 12 Author Report Share Posted January 12 32 minutes ago, Spr1985 said: Unfortunately I think it’s what “happened” to this country and not what’s happening. The what’s happening is just a symptom of what’s already happened and is only going to get worse. Until punishment fits the crime and discipline is instilled from a young age nothing will change. i was brought up in the 80’s and taught right from wrong and to respect my elders and my peers, I knew from a young age what behaviour was acceptable and what was not. The way I hear youngsters talking to their parents and elders in general is an absolute disgrace, respect for others seems non existent. The country seems to have turned feral and everyone out for themselves. Obviously I’m not tarring all with the same brush but the problems are far reaching and need major change I also was taught right from wrong when growing up as a child in the 50s and teenager in the 60s, we got into mischief but nothing like it is today, as you say there is just no respect for anyone or anything today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 We don’t know if the person had mental health issues or whatever, nor what was used, but yet again it happened because there is nothing to prevent it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 1 hour ago, Scully said: We don’t know if the person had mental health issues or whatever, nor what was used, but yet again it happened because there is nothing to prevent it. The latest news report says "A hospital nurse was fighting for her life tonight after being stabbed in a 'senseless attack' - allegedly by a patient who became 'angry' about having to wait". In my book that is probably 'symptomatic' of some sort of mental health problem, but I'm no expert. It also seems that whatever was used was "a 'sharp instrument' that wasn't a knife" Also perhaps indicative was this quote "Speaking outside the hospital, another nurse said: 'There was a row with a patient. It just got out of hand but it wasn't a case of the patient going berserk. 'It was just a disagreement that can happen late at night. It happens all the time" That it can happen all the time is really worrying. I had a long wait (11 hrs mostly in a corridor) in A&E around 4 years ago and the amount of shouting (which I guess was abuse) and disturbance was considerable. It was a Friday and I was in A&E untol after midnight, so I guess I got the worst time for drunks, but it was also during Covid when many venues were closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yates Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 2 hours ago, Spr1985 said: Unfortunately I think it’s what “happened” to this country and not what’s happening. The what’s happening is just a symptom of what’s already happened and is only going to get worse. Until punishment fits the crime and discipline is instilled from a young age nothing will change. i was brought up in the 80’s and taught right from wrong and to respect my elders and my peers, I knew from a young age what behaviour was acceptable and what was not. The way I hear youngsters talking to their parents and elders in general is an absolute disgrace, respect for others seems non existent. The country seems to have turned feral and everyone out for themselves. Obviously I’m not tarring all with the same brush but the problems are far reaching and need major change Could not agree more with this post as to what our society had become but sadly things can only detiorate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 13 hours ago, Spr1985 said: Unfortunately I think it’s what “happened” to this country and not what’s happening. The what’s happening is just a symptom of what’s already happened and is only going to get worse. Until punishment fits the crime and discipline is instilled from a young age nothing will change. i was brought up in the 80’s and taught right from wrong and to respect my elders and my peers, I knew from a young age what behaviour was acceptable and what was not. The way I hear youngsters talking to their parents and elders in general is an absolute disgrace, respect for others seems non existent. The country seems to have turned feral and everyone out for themselves. Obviously I’m not tarring all with the same brush but the problems are far reaching and need major change Possibly this attitude starts from the top too and spreads down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyH Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 (edited) On 12/01/2025 at 16:11, Spr1985 said: Unfortunately I think it’s what “happened” to this country and not what’s happening. The what’s happening is just a symptom of what’s already happened and is only going to get worse. Until punishment fits the crime and discipline is instilled from a young age nothing will change. i was brought up in the 80’s and taught right from wrong and to respect my elders and my peers, I knew from a young age what behaviour was acceptable and what was not. The way I hear youngsters talking to their parents and elders in general is an absolute disgrace, respect for others seems non existent. The country seems to have turned feral and everyone out for themselves. Obviously I’m not tarring all with the same brush but the problems are far reaching and need major change I can only agree more with this! I was raised in the 90’s, and I too was taught right from wrong. Help your fellow man and women, respect, integrity and all that, my sister too. But my nephew (Sisters lad) who is about the age of 11, is a right little horrible boy. He had been raised the best he can be, but still turning out a melt. Plays family members against each other, attitude and name calling. Nothing what he has been taught by family! He never gets away with it with me, because I don’t take ANY aggro from him. Edited January 17 by BobbyH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisdom Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 On 12/01/2025 at 16:11, Spr1985 said: Unfortunately I think it’s what “happened” to this country and not what’s happening. The what’s happening is just a symptom of what’s already happened and is only going to get worse. Until punishment fits the crime and discipline is instilled from a young age nothing will change. i was brought up in the 80’s and taught right from wrong and to respect my elders and my peers, I knew from a young age what behaviour was acceptable and what was not. The way I hear youngsters talking to their parents and elders in general is an absolute disgrace, respect for others seems non existent. The country seems to have turned feral and everyone out for themselves. Obviously I’m not tarring all with the same brush but the problems are far reaching and need major change Totally 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 An old mate of mine from school left the army and started a new job at a local hospital on the reception, this was back in the early 90s, not long into his new roll he got punched in the face by a patient. Not much harm done (he was a rather large chap), but none the less should not have happened. Shortly after that incident a screen similar to those at banks was erected around the reception in A&E. Id like to say that anyone showing aggressive behaviour towards any healthcare/emergency workers should be refused the help until they refrain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Too many mental health patient in society since they closed the care units and mingled them into society And not sever enough punishment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 I was locking up violent drunks from 2 hospital A & E departments, many of whom never came without a fight. That was in the 70's and 80s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 When they shut our care in the community unit and mingled them into the community you see them back at the unit now sitting on the wall waving at the cars going past while the units turned into hearing and dental units for the NHS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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