bruno22rf Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 London built SxS Sidelock in 16 gauge from the 1890-1930 period would be my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cumbrian Posted October 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 Thank you all for a fascinating, enlightening, and often entirely unpredictable set of suggestions and comments. They have greatly expanded my own limited ideas on the subject. I hope there may be more to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 The Perazzi's I've had have been effortless to shoot .... the trigger pulls so crisp it almost becomes an unconscious act. I have a Famars for game shooting now ... 30" 12 bore but feels like a 20g in the hands ... fits and handles beautifully. Winchester 101's and Browning B25's also feel good to me, but not quite the finesse of the Italian stables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) Thank you all for a fascinating, enlightening, and often entirely unpredictable set of suggestions and comments. They have greatly expanded my own limited ideas on the subject. I hope there may be more to come. Don't want to rub it in too much but I'm afraid it's just another one of those classic cases where people confuse the core meaning of something. Admittedly it is difficult to criticise a well made S/S many of which make you feel you can hold them with one hand side ways gangsta mode but can they live with a half decent mass produced OU for hitting targets OR game, the answer is no. Edited October 7, 2015 by Hamster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) Pray silence while Mr Hamster lists all the things that an OU can do that a SxS was not doing a hundred years ago-don't bother with multi chokes cos that can be done if you so desire. Such statements as his demanded pistols at dawn in my day . Edited October 7, 2015 by bruno22rf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlesP Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 My 1892 Greener side by side handles beautifully. It also isn't an ejector. It has a much better gape than my Beretta 686S from 20 years ago (Berettas are the same now). It has lovely wood, and engraving done by a human. Its damascus barrels sound better when a shot is fired. Sadly I have no idea what "gangsta mode" is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 Sadly I have no idea what "gangsta mode" is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlesP Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 Gosh! Do you think she would give me lessons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett1985 Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 of all of the guns that I have owned/shot, the current front runner is my MK38. its a 32 inch trap gun that's been teagued, and has a balance just forward of the hinge. for me, its an extension of my body when I shoot. incredibly comfortable with very little perceived recoil. but, as others have mentioned, one mans Porsche is another mans lada... handling and gun fit can vary wildly from person to person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 Do most slimmer men with smaller slimmer hands prefer guns with a slim profile like Beretta's etc? I'm slim and tall and prefer smaller actioned guns. I've never owned a browning/miroku as they seem a bit bulky for my liking. Maybe I should give them more a chance though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil w Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 Baikal shotguns are the best out there. "Hands down". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 You can get 6 guns of the same make and model and I will bet that one feels just right and another feels like a lump of wood . Might not be the same gun for you as me or someone else . Having been involved with making new guns ,selling new and used guns , gun fitting etc.etc. I have yet to find the magic formulae that could be applied to all guns so as they all feel prefect . I think we may have to start by redesigning the operator first . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 Sadly I have no idea what "gangsta mode" is. Strip down and oil required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 Strip down and oil required. Inflations checked and found satisfactory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 Inflations checked and found satisfactory High pressure job that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambsman Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 Interesting question. For walked up or fast action shooting I really like my AYA no 2. No good for clays though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adzyvilla Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 my old boss had a pair of beretta 20b eell guns with 30" barrels and they were lovely to shoot both game or clays when he let me borrow them. I had a 32" mk38 sporterised trap which was wonderful for clays but useless on live quarry. I now have a 32" browning b525 which I seem to be pretty hopeless with whatever I shoot at, even though the two guns were pretty similar. But i will always come back to my dads old 20b miroku 800 as a hide gun, can't be beaten in my opinion for weight, handling, pointablility and fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 On trips abroad I've been known to spend quality time with pistol grip pump actions with 18" barrels....sadly they'd be Section 5 here Some of the "normal" barrel lengths for sporting guns in the rest of the world would also make things Section 5 here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmoz82 Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) For me a winchester 23 & beretta 686 special both made in the 1980's handled very well, I shot more with these than any other gun I've owned and I've owned a few !!!! Edited October 8, 2015 by jmoz82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 The question was on ‘best handling gun’. In reality, it’s a bit like asking for the best handling car – you will get a lot of varied replies covering Ferraris, Lotus 7’s, Caterhams and a lot of specialist vehicles. But the best car for a purpose might be a more focussed question; The Ferrari, Lotus7, Caterham etc might be great fun on a track day, but not much fun either in heavy city traffic, or a long journey at speed limit speeds in heavy traffic. For the former, a small car might be nice, whereas for the latter, a large comfortable saloon/estate might be best.So it is with guns;· For a day walked up grouse, a light s/s would (does) suit me just fine, preferably something not too valuable as it’s a hard walk in often rough weather, and with few shots fire, a medium performance cartridge would suit it OK.· For an extra high ‘Devon’ pheasant day, my friends who do such things swear by a long barrelled heavy O/U with tight chokes and a high performance cartridge· For the foreshore, something capable of suitable steel loads and not going to loose value from exposure to salty conditions would suit – maybe a semi auto?· For clays disciplines, there are appropriate ‘skeet’, ‘trap’ and ‘sporting’ guns available with stock measurements, chokes, etc designed to optimise performance on particular targets. Such guns are invariably O/U, single triggered and can vary from budget to high end.But for a ‘normal’ (for me) mixed pheasant and partridge day, most birds in very ordinary ranges, some quick snap shooting in trees, some more measured shots, and maybe a few 10s of cartridges on a good day – I believe a typical English s/s (or Spanish copy thereof), lowish to medium weight and modestly choked is as good as anything and 'handles' better than most. Such a gun is also very adequate for a few mixed clays shot with suitable loads. It might not excel at the more specialist tasks, but it will be a good all rounder and a pleasure to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael170874 Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Define handling I'm ex military shooting everything out there plus iv'e shot shotguns since being 9 yrs old iv'e owned everything from single brls to semis,ss o/u pumps etc it's not a motorbike you point and shoot .i have won clay competitions winning £300 plus hampers etc using the clay clubs own cheap gun beating snobs with their purdy's and £2000 brownings ah if you can shoot you can shoot nothing to do with handling .get over it.when i hear this excuse oh it dont fit me bla bla or i dont like its handling bla bla its a **** poor excuse for your bad shooting skills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlesP Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Define handling I'm ex military shooting everything out there plus iv'e shot shotguns since being 9 yrs old iv'e owned everything from single brls to semis,ss o/u pumps etc it's not a motorbike you point and shoot .i have won clay competitions winning £300 plus hampers etc using the clay clubs own cheap gun beating snobs with their purdy's and £2000 brownings ah if you can shoot you can shoot nothing to do with handling .get over it.when i hear this excuse oh it dont fit me bla bla or i dont like its handling bla bla its a **** poor excuse for your bad shooting skills Oh dear! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Define handling I'm ex military shooting everything out there plus iv'e shot shotguns since being 9 yrs old iv'e owned everything from single brls to semis,ss o/u pumps etc it's not a motorbike you point and shoot .i have won clay competitions winning £300 plus hampers etc using the clay clubs own cheap gun beating snobs with their purdy's and £2000 brownings ah if you can shoot you can shoot nothing to do with handling .get over it.when i hear this excuse oh it dont fit me bla bla or i dont like its handling bla bla its a **** poor excuse for your bad shooting skills Define snob Because I shoot with a Purdy or a £2000 browning I'm obviously one It may occur to you that the club gun was chosen for its balance and handeling 😊 However what suits one dosent nessesarely suit another So carry on shooting the club gun but please don't call someone a snob because they have a gun of a different make or price range as I feel that would be rather poor form Hope you enjoyed your hamper all the best Of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Define handling I'm ex military shooting everything out there plus iv'e shot shotguns since being 9 yrs old iv'e owned everything from single brls to semis,ss o/u pumps etc it's not a motorbike you point and shoot .i have won clay competitions winning £300 plus hampers etc using the clay clubs own cheap gun beating snobs with their purdy's and £2000 brownings ah if you can shoot you can shoot nothing to do with handling .get over it.when i hear this excuse oh it dont fit me bla bla or i dont like its handling bla bla its a **** poor excuse for your bad shooting skills Lots of former military on here, Michael, and most of us know what "handling" means in this context. Take it easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Define handling I'm ex military shooting everything out there plus iv'e shot shotguns since being 9 yrs old iv'e owned everything from single brls to semis,ss o/u pumps etc it's not a motorbike you point and shoot .i have won clay competitions winning £300 plus hampers etc using the clay clubs own cheap gun beating snobs with their purdy's and £2000 brownings ah if you can shoot you can shoot nothing to do with handling .get over it.when i hear this excuse oh it dont fit me bla bla or i dont like its handling bla bla its a **** poor excuse for your bad shooting skills Define snob Because I shoot with a Purdy or a £2000 browning I'm obviously one It may occur to you that the club gun was chosen for its balance and handeling However what suits one dosent nessesarely suit another So carry on shooting the club gun but please don't call someone a snob because they have a gun of a different make or price range as I feel that would be rather poor form Hope you enjoyed your hamper all the best Of Good for you OF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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