shoot57 Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 Thinking of ordering some 12 bore cartridges for the game season,and cant decide weather to go for plastic or fibre, i use an old english s/s for my game shooting with a 2 1/2 in chamber and have allways used plastic believing they kill better, Does anybody know of any reserch done on this subject? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 (edited) I would always go for fibre but thats a personal thing. the only advantage I can see with plastic is that the manufacturers prefer them because they feed easier through their machinery and are cheaper to buy in the vast quantities they use. IMO the benefits of plastic are overstated. Edited July 22, 2010 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 Our game shoots are held over crops and grazing land and so fibre is mandatory. Pigeon shooting is only done over crops in our area so plastic is OK. I don't think you'll notice much if any difference in the shooting using plastic or fibre wads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 Thinking of ordering some 12 bore cartridges for the game season,and cant decide weather to go for plastic or fibre, i use an old english s/s for my game shooting with a 2 1/2 in chamber and have allways used plastic believing they kill better, Does anybody know of any reserch done on this subject? I don't know about the research but very few Game Shoots allow plastic, many sporting are going the same way. I hate to say it but I agree, even though it costs me, I don't believe we should be littering the countryside with all these little plastic aliens! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 I always buy fibre cartridges because you can use them anywhere, not the case with plastic. Life's simpler if it's all the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 Fibre everytime. FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakin stevens Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 fibre for everything if you can, i think some wildfowling clubs ask that you use fibre wads these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 Fibre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 i like fibre hate seein plastic wads on floor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignoel Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 got to agree fibre cant stand the sight of litterd plastic on my permission Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 Hi, Same chamber, same problem. The best possible research is your own with your gun. If you have a few left from last year (or buy a few more), then buy a box of a couple of fibre brands that take your fancy and do a pattern check. Hopefully, you may just find something that shoots the same as your existing plastic wads. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 i buy fibre because it is mandatory at a shoot. so i just buy in bulk, there are some awsome fibre loads out there ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 Fibre for me too, all the places i go shooting insist on fibre - personally I don’t mind at all as plastic wads can look a bit unsightly. BASC research showed that fibre patterned at least as well as plastic, sometimes better! David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 fibre - why would you want to go polluting the countryside with plastic wads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez325 Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 I use fibre all the time- as my shoots are mostly farms andthe largest landowners insisted on Fibre wad as he claimed an animal ( farm type) could swallow and maybe choke on the plastic wad- yes / No??? Im not tempting fate on loosing a shoot due to wadding Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 only slight difference the plastic cup holds the shot briefly after leaving barrel so you get a tighter pattern. but soon as shot leaves the barrel with fibre wad the shot starts spreading out a little quicker and with pattern testing same load and shell through the same choke one plastic wad the other fibre;the plas wad through a more dense pattern; and has said some places its a requirement to use fibre wads we use fibre when shooting at pigeons on cattle grazing land; for the obvious reasons; but plastic everywhere else because when the ground is ploughed in so do the plas wads its seeing empty shell cases in hedgerows and everywhere else that annoy me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikee Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 I only ever buy plastic wad shells apart from at one clay ground where fiber are mandatory, much better performance with a tight sealing plastic wad moving up the barrel, much tighter and more consistent patterns, most plas wads are biodegradable even though they do take several years to rot away, I think if you're spraying toxic lead all over the district its a bit daft to worry about a few pieces of inert plastic and as for wildfowling clubs banning plastic wads. how long would the barrels of a fowling gun last shooting tungsten based shot with felt wads? .... not too long I would venture. mikee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 I have only ever shot fibre on live quarry, but have used plastics for clays (cheaper). I have not noticed any improvement in my scores when using plastic, nor have I noticed a discernible difference between fibre and plastic on the pattern plate. If there is any difference (and I am not convinced) , I doubt that 99% of shooters would notice it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoot57 Posted July 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 thanks for the replies, as a farmer myself i agree with the litter problem caused by plas wads, but if i ask the question another way it would be interesting to hear your oppinions, if for instance plas and fibre were completely harmless to the environment and all the game shoots and clay shoots allowed them both, then which ones would use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 If both waddings degraded equally (quickly), left no unsightly litter and were harmless to livestock, then I would use the cheapest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendersons Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 fibre every time, if they both were the same whatever the shop had in on special Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 It's certainly news to me that 'most' plastic wads break down in the relatively short time of a few years. FM :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead eye alan Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 I try to use fiber all the time but some times im given a few cartridges by the farmers and thy tend to be plastic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 (edited) I use both depending on what my farmers supply me with. The plastic are bio-degradable and i rarely notice any wads about a short while after shooting. I have never seen first hand or talked to anyone who has had any trouble with livestock swallowing plaswads. I suspect this a myth as if it happend with any even rare regularity the cartridge makers would soon change to fibre. I have always thought it strange some are so against using plaswads in the field and yet are happy to use a proven toxic like lead. Has anyone on here seen first hand any problems with livestock. Edited July 24, 2010 by anser2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikee Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 I use both depending on what my farmers supply me with. The plastic are bio-degradable and i rarely notice any wads about a short while after shooting. I have never seen first hand or talked to anyone who has had any trouble with livestock swallowing plaswads. I suspect this a myth as if it happend with any even rare regularity the cartridge makers would soon change to fibre. I have always thought it strange some are so against using plaswads in the field and yet are happy to use a proven toxic like lead. Has anyone on here seen first hand any problems with livestock. yes, twice at the fiber wad only clay club had to deal with sheep that were choking on fiber wads, twice in about 20 years so cant say its a problem, cant say if more or less would suffer the same if plastic wads were allowed mikee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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