TaxiDriver Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 I have a guy who works for me on a self employed basis and today it looks almost certain he's diddled me by £30 or £40 today alone. He went out to do a job today priced at £140-£150 Rung up whilst on the job saying the person didn't want the return/hadn't asked for a return wasn't going to pay for the return journey, We agreed the price would therefore be £100. Tonight the customer phones up, compliments the driver on the job done but that the cab could have been cleaner, Now she says "Am I sure £130 is enough ? It seems cheap" insists the driver charged her £130 and she gave him £10 'for himself' He wont answer the phone but answered by text and insists that she only gave him £110, she's not dotty, and is friend of my next door neighbour so cannot see that she's anything to gain, in fact she's offered me another £30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 I think you have probably made him aware you are on his tail...if he does it again then ditch him... Thats basically theft from your employer whether he is S/E or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 that ain't nice being ripped off, is he a mate of yours or just a subby? my advice would be to get rid, unless you're scrooge and only pay peanuts, what excuse could he have to bite the hand that pays him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Ditch him anyway. If he'd come clean maybe give him a second chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holly Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 plenty of honest people out there looking for work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocker3 Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 bin him as holly says plenty of honest hard working folk out there looking for work who,s to say he wont do it again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Cant trust him today,cant trust him tomorrow :no: :no: BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 couple of lads from dale farm after sum work good with there hands ill pm you there numbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerico Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Wait a couple of weeks & put him through the same scenario with a plant! Alternatively B&Q have a sale on indoor tree's atm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishman-in-wales Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Me personally would have a word with a good friend of yours that the driver doesnt know and have your friend 'set him up', you will find out then if he is robbing you blind or not, if he is, get rid... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 might want to find out why first though, have it out with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Ask him to his face. If he confesses sack him if he dosent fess up sack him. You don't bite the hand that feeds you. Record it anyway just incase he is funny about it after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted November 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Sadly it's the second time in couple of weeks that I've caught him out, The other week the cab was in a quiet backstreet in town, phoned him, asked if he was working ? "No he replies, I'm at home" trouble is the loud muzik was same tune playing in the pub I was parked outside :unsure: 2 days later I spoke to him face to face about his whereabouts and he lied to my face, even when I asked him to reconsider his reply, then I told him where I'd seen the cab, Suddenly !! he rememberes, thats where he parked when he went to do his daytime door security job & gets collected from & dropped off there. Hmmmm time to get my vehicle back and for him to go I think. Thanks All. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_evil Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Underpay the next job and tell him its minus the cut he took last time Then sack him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 If he is self employed then I believe you can simply dispense with his services without notice BUT you better check that with FSB, solicitor etc. If you cant then you have to prove the offence, this proof would have to stand up in court as you may well get sued for unfair dismissal. Take the lady's details, take a signed written statement from her, do this with a witness. As someone else said in 2 weeks set a trap with a friend, have the friend do a similar trip, ideally fit this person up with discreet sound/video recording gear. If he does it again and does not pay the money in after say a week then have him in, advise him that he is entitled to have a witness present, give him time to get a witness. Then advise that you are suspending him while you investigate a possible fraud. Advise that you will be holding a full disciplinary hearing in 2 weeks or once you have investigated fully. You also need a reliable witness who will take notes of who says what etc. Gather the info, in writing, hold the hearing, ask for a confession first up, if that is not forthcoming show your evidence, he will respond, you then make a fair decision based on the evidence. Beware that you may have to support this in a court of law. Some years ago I had a bright lad I knew was on the fiddle, took me 2 years to catch him and that was only after a manager who I had tipped off noticed something odd. I went through due process, he denied it, I sacked him. I think he stole somewhere between 20 and 30 K over the period. Problem was catching him and getting the proof, he was stealing stock and selling it for cash. No proof and you are a sitting duck at an unfair dismissal hearing, compensation and have to take him back on. Do it right and do it once. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeds chimp Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 If he is self employed then I believe you can simply dispense with his services without notice BUT you better check that with FSB, solicitor etc. If you cant then you have to prove the offence, this proof would have to stand up in court as you may well get sued for unfair dismissal. Take the lady's details, take a signed written statement from her, do this with a witness. As someone else said in 2 weeks set a trap with a friend, have the friend do a similar trip, ideally fit this person up with discreet sound/video recording gear. If he does it again and does not pay the money in after say a week then have him in, advise him that he is entitled to have a witness present, give him time to get a witness. Then advise that you are suspending him while you investigate a possible fraud. Advise that you will be holding a full disciplinary hearing in 2 weeks or once you have investigated fully. You also need a reliable witness who will take notes of who says what etc. Gather the info, in writing, hold the hearing, ask for a confession first up, if that is not forthcoming show your evidence, he will respond, you then make a fair decision based on the evidence. Beware that you may have to support this in a court of law. Some years ago I had a bright lad I knew was on the fiddle, took me 2 years to catch him and that was only after a manager who I had tipped off noticed something odd. I went through due process, he denied it, I sacked him. I think he stole somewhere between 20 and 30 K over the period. Problem was catching him and getting the proof, he was stealing stock and selling it for cash. No proof and you are a sitting duck at an unfair dismissal hearing, compensation and have to take him back on. Do it right and do it once. A if S/E dont need to go through all then..just say dont need your service anymore... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hushpower Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 LC is spot on there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Trouble is you don't know how many times he's done it in the past and 'the odd tenner' will mount up. If he's a serial tea leaf he might have diddled you out of hundreds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerboy Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 (edited) Hi Neil penny today, pound tomorrow, tenner before you know it. If you let him stay would ever trust him and rest easy?. All I can say is "sack him" it may teach him the lesson that will put him back on the right path. Edited November 15, 2011 by bakerboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ME Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Like any relationship, once the trust it gone then it isn't worth continuing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100milesaway Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Go and get you vehicle back and then sack him, and warn the other drivers on the rank that he's up to no good. He might have ripped you off but at least you can make sure he won't get work locally again. It will hurt him more than you. from Auntie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browning 425 clay hunter Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 It really peeeee's me off when people like me and I'm sure many others on here have been struggling after being made redundant and are struggling to get back into work and then u have idiots like this guy taking you for a ride (no pun intended). Why don't you tell him there's not much work that way u get rid of him without giving him the room to take u through a messy unfair dismissal claim. Then give the job to someone who deserves it and would be grateful for the opportunity of employment. Rant over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 sounds like a free thinking individual, keep him on and tap into his logic KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeds chimp Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 again as said if S/E you dont need a tribunal or anything like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr W Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 Sack him, he's probably been at it for ages. I'd fit a GPS tracker to the car if it's yours so you can see where it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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