snipper Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 to cut a long story short ....... my father bought a new webley 812 2yrs ago from humberside guns and it has performed great untill about 4 weeks ago when 14" of the rib detached . no problem he thought as they have a lifetime warranty , but after a call to humberside "no chance they have changed hands" was their response but after a little push they agreed to have a go repairing it as a good will gesture . they were not embarassed in the slightest when handing this back........ it lasted abount 20 clays and melted webleys take on it was " its not been serviced " so we're not doing anything ... ok it wasn't serviced by a gunsmith but we're not talking about a broken spring but major fault on a little used gun and in as new condition still ....... so be warned about there warranty and also pick a differant gunsmith :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 Looks like they tried to soldier it back on :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 i would tell them to get you a barrel replacement or you will write to sporting gun and other main shooting mags.that is a major flaw.folk using guns decades old and this does nt happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fo5ter Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 Looks more like copydex to me :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 I'm no expert by any manner or means but those repairs really do look like a bit of a bodged job! Not quite what you would expect, even just just as a "good will gesture"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linny Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 Looks like they tried to soldier it back on :blink: that looks like glue not soldier nice bodge job id take it back thats **** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 That's a joke it looks like someone's melted candle wax on it! Can't it be ground back and mig welded or would that distort the barrel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler12 Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 I do think it's a shame that Webley & Scott have allowed there stamp to be put on cheap Turkish tat. My 812 didn't last very long either. Problem after problem, until I'd had enough. I'd had the gun for over 6 months when I asked for a full refund. Massive applause to Tim at Mcavoy Guns, he didn't even grumble, just handed me my money back and was very apologetic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 I would give the shooting press / trading standards / CAB a bell as that is taking the michael. Firstly what has servicing got to do with the top rip staying in it's place and how would having it serviced have stopped that and secondly why have they used what looks like chemical metal to try and 'stick' it back on! I would say it's not fit for purpose, you would expect a gun to last longer than 2 years, the rib on my 1981 Lanber is still well attached! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolhead Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 As the transfers have not been damaged it is clear that no heat has been used. The milky substance used to fill it is probably epoxy. Given its age you'll almost certainly need to find a proper craftsman yourself to fix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy H Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 Do Humberside gun's have a resident gunsmith or did they let one of their children loose with the Araldite , I would not have even accepted it back in that condition especially with adhesive on top of paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 once they touch it they are fully responsible for an adequate repair- in law! glue is a joke but the person who did this is no "gunsmith" . Having had no service is only an issue to them, in small claims they would only want to know which part of the std service prevents rib detachment. Have you been using WD40? As for mig welding it back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brisa Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 That is shocking, managing a workshop environment myself I would seriously question the persons suitability for working on anything never mind a firearm! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAL S Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 (edited) take it back and tell them you wont the barrel replacing or your money back or you will take them to court dont put up with that **** as it is not fit for purpose Edited July 29, 2012 by MAL S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 Tits on fish that is shocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiffy Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 im was thinking of getting a 912k as my first gun, but after reading a topic about it here this morning and seeing this now and seeing their reply, i am thinking twice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 A proper bodge job, I'm sure it's glue. Take it back, servicing has nothing to do with it (no gun service will involve having the rib removed and reattached as a precautionary measure!), the gun has failed. It is not fit for purpose, and so you are entitled to your money back. Take it back, Webley should sort it out (not the RFD, who will be the ones to speak to Webley about this). No gun rib should fail within 2 years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 The epoxy that has been used, has been applied in an enthusiastic, but inappropriate manner. A child of 5 could have done a better job, unless this was applied by a 4 year old. I would advise them that I would be seeing trading standards, unless the passage of time renders that useless. I would tell them that I would pursue them through the County Court. The photos alone would make your case. As for servicing - the excuse is beyond pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 That's truly **** mate. As said, it looks like a kids effort at mending something. :no: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 humberside guns..... as in mike wigglsworth at south cave? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 http://www.humbersideguns.co.uk/index-1.html ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 That is a laughable attempt at a repair, it's so bad it doesn't even qualify as a bodge. How they handed that back with a straight face is a mystery. Where was that gunsmith trained ? The Blue Peter workshop ? Anyway, no amount of servicing would have prevented the rib detaching, it's clearly a manufacturing fault and as such should be replaced. Also, if no joy, send pictures to the shooting magazines - I'm sure they'll love them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snipper Posted July 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 thanks for the replys chaps it was an epoxy glue they used after 12months the warranty stands at webleys feet by law ........ all the spares where bought by chambers for the older style semi autos and we all know how dear they are ...... next port of call for him is BASC i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snipper Posted July 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 humberside guns..... as in mike wigglsworth at south cave? no its not them ........... its humberside shooting ground http://www.humbersideshootingground.co.uk/ the shop within the ground was called humberside guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 That is an awful repair (bodge up ) I wonder where the gun is shooting now . I would take it back and have a firm word with them and if necessary ,start pulling arms off . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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