Which Cartridges (groan....) but simple question!

[86inch]

I've been using Gamebore Clear Pigeon 30g/6 fibre wad for my pigeon shooting which i'm generally happy with but its all i've ever used being a new shooter. But i'm now almost out..

For an extra £15/1000 is the Lyalvale Express Pigeon Special 30g/6 a better buy?

 

Anyone used both and can comment?

[magman]

Save the extra £15 and have a better shell imho

[Cranfield]

I use Gamebore Clear Pigeon 30gm No6 fibre wad and believe they are probably the best pigeon cartridge around.

However, it is fair to say that most modern cartridges are consistent and will kill a pigeon hit in the right place at the right range.

[86inch]

Thanks for the quick response gents!

[ditchman]

i have used both and can swap between the 2.............but there is nothin like sticking to one cartridge, i use gamebore 30g and always put myself in the poorhouse to makesure that i have enough...lyalvale are fine tho

[Actionpigeons]

Steel Number 5s, I pay £186.00 per 1,000 and get 50p per bird so it cover the cost of my shooting easily.

Express 32 gr loads

Edited December 1, 2012 by Actionpigeons

[utectok]

The voyage most take is from being picky to getting the cheapest it really don't matter..... Drop to 28 gm and you'll kill as many for a few pennies less i like csp just carts but I shoot a 20 bore now

[Whitebridges]

All the branded "Pigeon" shells from the top companies like Lyvdale, Gamebore, Fiocchi, and Hull cartridge all do the job well.

The one that stands out as the best for me has to be Eley HB Pigeon in a 6.5 32g load. I've just bought another 3k, this lot were £207 a thousand.

[anser2]

 

This is a difficult question , because if you sat a dozen pigeon shooters around the table and asked the same question you are likely to get a dozen different answers and all of them right.

 

As others have said there is little to chose between most modern shells. We all have our favoured cartridge mainly due to a bit of luck when we have shot straight. I bought a job lot of about 1000 cartridges a few years ago , all broken boxes very cheap. There were about a dozen brands and shot sizes vaired between 7s and 5s and I cant say i noticed the difference in killing power for decoying though range was a small problem with the 7s while roost shooting at 50+ yards. I did find some difference in recoil , only a slight problem if i had a big day , but they all killed well. The only shell I would avoid would be D&Gs , mainly because they are so dirty and if i had restrict myself to one brand it would be Eley pigeon HBs , though RIO Trap 28 gr in no 6 are also very good and cheaper than most shells.

 

Not quite the same story if you use steel , while i have not used the new Express 32 gr loads which some on here have said were good , but the old ones were pretty poor. In contrast I found the gamebore 32 gr steel very good.

 

Edited November 30, 2012 by anser2

[utectok]

I like the gamebore 32gm steel to

[yickdaz]

I've been using Gamebore Clear Pigeon 30g/6 fibre wad for my pigeon shooting which i'm generally happy with but its all i've ever used being a new shooter. But i'm now almost out..

For an extra £15/1000 is the Lyalvale Express Pigeon Special 30g/6 a better buy?

 

Anyone used both and can comment?

nothing wrong with either of them, but i tend to go for the clear pigeon

just to throw another shell into the hat is hull super fast 29g 6, in my opinion they are a brilliant shell for a so called budget end pigeon shell

[BellySlater]

32g 6's Clear Pigeon. I use these for all my shooting (excluding Duck) and they consistently perform. My semi chews them up all day as they are 70mm.

Just wish they'd change the colour back it's a bitch to find the empties !

[itchy trigger]

I'm also a fan of the clear pigeon 30g and 32g, a lot cleaner though not as smooth than the express supreme 32, but so much better killers, used to be a big fan of express clay shells years ago, the 32g super comp 6 was brilliant as was the pro comp

[Thunderbird]

The new Gamebore Kent Velocity 29gm no 6s are supposed to be good, I have a few boxes but haven't tried them yet.

[lee-kinsman]

I use Fiocchi 32g No 6 pigeon about £65 a slab, they are a great cartridge.

[dazsl]

the way i choose when i walk in shop i ask which are the cheapest this week and buy them it makes no difference at all i still miss

[alros01]

I've used lots of brands I do like the eley pigeon I found he rc carts kick quit a bit at the moment I'm using fiocchi 32 gram 6 they are good but you get more noise with them than other carts I've used even the farmer noticed the difference in the sound when shooting but what ever does the job

[subsonicnat]

GAMBORE , I love them point and shoot, great loads for ducks and geese up to 3.5". Thats all I use now..

[grousemoor]

If you have confidence in the Clear Pigeons stick with them! They are very good for the £

[brent52]

clear pigeon 30g plaswad everytime

[Ears]

For me the new clear pigeon carts in the black cases certainly dont preform like the older ones did. We cut them open and had a look in them, hard to tell wether the power was different but the plas wad certainly was. gamebore said to me they were exactly the same when i spoke with them,they were lieing. They still kill most reasonable range pigeons ok though, but they have lost the extra 15 yards they used to have ,for regular killing at 50 yards like they used to have. last year changed to shooting Victory starlights 32gram 6 shot. For me they are alot better. But they cost me £226 per thou

[masmiffy]

28g 6 or 7 if your decoying they will do the job a treat. Kind on the shoulder and you can shoot them all day!

 

We are still getting our ***** reamed big time with the price of cartridges!!

Edited January 18, 2013 by masmiffy

[caeser]

In my opinion, probably all cartridges nowadays are good. What with modern manufacturing processes and powders etc, there's nothing between them. Not like ,about 30 years ago, when it would make a difference.

I use a 12 gauge. So, all I want is 12 gauge cartridges. Whether they are 28gms or 32gms. Or No5 shot, 6 , 6.5 or No7 shot, I'm not bothered. Whatever is cheapest when I walk in the shop.

Simple, if you point the gun in the right direction, you will hit it. Cartridge make has no effect on whether you hit or miss.

Just my opinion, like I said.

[masmiffy]

In my opinion, probably all cartridges nowadays are good. What with modern manufacturing processes and powders etc, there's nothing between them. Not like ,about 30 years ago, when it would make a difference.

I use a 12 gauge. So, all I want is 12 gauge cartridges. Whether they are 28gms or 32gms. Or No5 shot, 6 , 6.5 or No7 shot, I'm not bothered. Whatever is cheapest when I walk in the shop.

Simple, if you point the gun in the right direction, you will hit it. Cartridge make has no effect on whether you hit or miss.

Just my opinion, like I said.

 

Pretty good opinion I recon mate

So long as it suitable for your gun chamber has lead in it and goes bang when you pull the trigger load it!!

Gun or cartridge is rarely the cause of a miss its the idiot behind the trigger pointing it!! FACT

[EdSolomons]

Got it in one. They are all infinitely better and more capable/consistent than any of us. A lot of it is in the head- if you think the shell is no good, the results will reflect that.