Beretta28g Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 this is a picture of the crimp with the melted bit (joining them all together) that i mentioned. i have not seen this on anything else? baikal cartridge.jpg Winchester AA Trap have that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 At least wildfowlers didn't need to carry emergency whistles, flares or other signalling apparatus. Blast off two or three of them and everyone in the county knew where you were! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad1 Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 Those are my very first experience with a 12g !! My uncle who was well into his guns and mooching about with them .. I remember he said I could have ago it was a old s/s it was near enough red it had that much cheap stain and varnish on !!! I never realised what recoil was I only considered the noise .. So I mounted the gun with my uncle stood next to me helping me lift it but as I was concerned about noise I held it slightly away from my shoulder then ....... Bang !!! I now mount any gun tight !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 bought em late 60,s early 70,s boxes of ten with rolled turnover an paper tubes,,,its all we could afford them days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HW682 Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 The ones I have experienced had unusual pink plaswads as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaikalsRule90 Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 I fired one at a pheasant last year and lost view of it through the flames and smoke! Also I think the fibre wad was literally Russian newspaper haha! Very loud too! I have some Swedish cartridges by a company called gytorp. They are pretty similar!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 I never used them, but remember the signs at clays shoots saying they were banned, so they must have had a reputation even then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon sniper Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 Any chance of somebody selling a few? I have to experience these now lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIDES EDGE Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 (edited) I brought a 1000 of the Baikals from the shop in chelmsford £48 and they came in a wooden crate that we used as a log box for years, now thats what I call value. They were no7 shot but cotained all sorts of sizes and very few were round so you got a long shot string out of them so when clay shooting the clay would break then the bits of clay would break when the slower shot got there.Only ever used them through a remie 1100 auto due to the recoil but shot just about every leagal quarry you could . Definatley loud ,flames out of barrel and breach on an auto were something to behold on an evening flight. I have recovered from the recoil but not from the noise I am told by her in doors that I am deaf Edited August 8, 2013 by TIDES EDGE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMMER BURT Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 i bought 5k in 1988 for 40 quid from a gun shop in cambridge near west's renault on newmarket rd,some were round and some were oval but they did kill ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfolk Ern Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 Was given some in the late 80s to shoot some rabbits. Can remember the huge flames, the loud explosion and enough soot in the barrels to warrant keeping a small Victorian boy to hand to clean out after each shot! I also seem to remember a friend of mine halving a rabbit as the shot had fused together. Happy days! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the enigma Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 (edited) I remember shooting them through my granda's sxs hammer gun when I first started shooting, and as above, the flames were ferocious, as were the bruises on my shoulder. I still have 1 in the cabinet, that we found when we were sorting his stuff out, along with a box of similar red, no.6 cartridges, marked SG on the side. EDIT Just checked,not SG, but SC Game no.5 . Edited August 8, 2013 by the enigma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 I bought a couple of thousand of these back in the seventies used about 500 of them through a Baikal sxs then sold the gun and the carts,it was pure punishment,be thankfull they do not make them any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 I've still got a few of the black #4's, and also some BB's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon controller Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 I remember buying a couple of thousand from a Helstan gunsmiths while on holiday for £70 a thousand. When I left the shop they smiled and said have fun. I remember the bruises and the flames at dusk crow shooting . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody801 Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 I've got loads of these. My dad was given them years ago. There all plastic wads so only used a few of them. Good crack for dusk shooting with the flames coming out of the end of the barrel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawntredder Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 (edited) used to use them in the 80's never seemed to shoot many pigeons with them..probably empty.. Edited August 15, 2013 by Robbie Forster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 remember them im still having night mares a bout them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 BOOOOMMMM! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 I've got some left in #4 shot size (black case) and also #5 in red case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon controller Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 Still got the bruised cheek , mega shell. I used to pay £70.00 per thousand . Dangerous to use on laid wheat due to the flames !!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muffin Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 I was asked to load for a guy years back he had Holland and Holland s/s and a bag full of Baikal cartridges glad I had my earmuffs that day SandB cartridges when I was in Morley Gun Club in cheshire we used to buy them direct from Edgar Bros Macclesfield for about £70 a thousand I think they came in when Eley had a problem at the factory and cartridges where short I think Edgar bros still advertise them if he still has them at 70 quid a thousnd I might risk a few Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Still have a couple of boxes.Some pink some red and some black ones and one paper one ....and one with a............. No! no! no! I'll get me coat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 We used to use 1000s of them in the late 60s and early 70s once you got used to them they were fine, at that time I used a Midland Gun Co 3inch for duck and pigeon shooting so the recoil wasnt a problem, we normally had 6s but if you cut one open they contained every thing from bb to 7s so in therey you could use them for geese down to snipe. We use to pay £40 a 1000 from Bazoka in Beccles Suffolk. My brother had a gun for sale and they offered him a £100 or 3000 cartridges , he took the shells and I gave him £55 for 1500 , he was happy and so was I ........Gone up a bob or two since then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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