Rupert Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 Weed today,what tomorrow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 Interesting - we're now picking and choosing the laws we "like" and therefore adhere and ignoring those which clash with our recreational hobbies. I don't like yellow lines, they stop me parking in front of the pub where I wish to get drunk and drive home. Do I get a free pass because parking's only a civil matter and the drink driving level is arbitrary and I feel sure that I can handle much more than 1.5 pints and get home in one piece? Some of you hill-billies need to grow up and accept that laws apply to all & sundry. "If" young chap is dealing (which is much more serious than simply taking an illegal drug for recreational purposes, a point overlooked thus far) the police will take a view on how to handle the initial complaint and the CPS, if contacted by the rozzers, will take a view on the need to prosecute. It would be a shame to put them all out of a job by performing the entire criminal justice system on Pigeonwatch. Particularly when the IQ, logic and general levels of intelligence of some posters seems to have been damaged by over-use of the product under discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 Flashman - at the risk of bringing discredit on to the sport - in the opinion of some - I totally agree. I too am concerned at level of intelligence - or lack of it in some posters. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon69 Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 Flashman - at the risk of bringing discredit on to the sport - in the opinion of some - I totally agree. I too am concerned at level of intelligence - or lack of it in some posters. :lol: IMO the only people that lack intelligence are the ones who do not respect other peoples opinion and when they do not agree they take to throwing insults at them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 Totally agree. :good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 Gordon. I see what you are saying but we'll have to just agree to disagree I'm afraid. My view of a lot of drugs is very different, but cannabis in it's basic form really isn't any worse than a lot of things we choose to consume legally. Alcohol, smoking a and junk food can all mess you up but are legal. I respect the law but this isn't what this argument is about. It's about how much damage it is likely to do to this young lad and in my opinion he has a good chance of making it through and getting on with later life with little ill effect. Every sport has an element of drug use and it bares no relation on the majority, so that's just not a relevant point. Today isn't a good day for me to argue so I'm calling it a day. I found out this morning that the brother of a friend of mine died this weekend from taking a dodgy ecstasy tablet. It's a loss that could easily have been avoided and believe it or not reinforces my opinion of these synthetic drugs. They are something that I've always been against. It doesn't however change my view of cannabis as I believe it's different. There is so much less to go wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon69 Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 (edited) That's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but I think you're wrong. Just because the law says something is bad We all have to abide by the law but that does not mean that we agree with it or believe it is correct. How many of you agree/d with the handgun ban? Leadshot and wildfowl? How many of us drink alcohol? How many of you shared a bed with an unmarried woman(not your wife) last night? Both of these are seriously illegal in some middle east countries! Edited September 29, 2013 by silver pigeon69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 Gordon. I see what you are saying but we'll have to just agree to disagree I'm afraid. My view of a lot of drugs is very different, but cannabis in it's basic form really isn't any worse than a lot of things we choose to consume legally. Alcohol, smoking a and junk food can all mess you up but are legal. I respect the law but this isn't what this argument is about. It's about how much damage it is likely to do to this young lad and in my opinion he has a good chance of making it through and getting on with later life with little ill effect. Every sport has an element of drug use and it bares no relation on the majority, so that's just not a relevant point. Today isn't a good day for me to argue so I'm calling it a day. I found out this morning that the brother of a friend of mine died this weekend from taking a dodgy ecstasy tablet. It's a loss that could easily have been avoided and believe it or not reinforces my opinion of these synthetic drugs. They are something that I've always been against. It doesn't however change my view of cannabis as I believe it's different. There is so much less to go wrong. Firstly my condolences to the family of the lad that has died. The op was talking about the possibility that his neighbours son was dealing drugs,why do you assume it is weed? You have summed up the horrors of drug dealing in one sentence,where do you think that tablet came from?is the neighbour in question dealing in ecstasy ,it is easier to carry ,store and distribute,could his neighbours son be dealing in dodgy ecstasy tabs. Stop being naive dealers deal in drugs,drugs kill,you have just shown this,yet are still happy to stand on your soap box and defend the use of "soft drugs".i am afraid your judgement is to be questioned in this matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 He might be a nice lad, but the people who supply him aren't, the people who buy from him might not be either and who knows what they do to fund their purchases. It's a bad business and it needs to be stopped. Call plod, they might be able to get enough information from him to make a useful arrest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 I see on the news today yet another high ranking police officer saying that drugs should be made leagle to have not deal as I have always said but people cannot get in in to there heads if we gave free drugs to adics together with help to ween them off drugs we would save a fortune. our prisons are full of young people who steel to buy drugs so in one sweep we could empty our prisons and cut down on police numbers pluss putting the drug gangs out of business. Also the real problem with drugs is buying from the street you have no idea what is in them most drugs in there pure form and administerd properly are no more danger to us that drinking or smoking but again people do not want to hear this so they shut there minds to the facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny705 Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 This thread might as well just be closed ? Is it not just getting into a debate about anti drugs/ pro drugs people ? The 'ex-priminster baroness thatcher dies ' post was much the same. You wont change peoples views on drugs vs drink etc. Most people know of someone , who has screwed up on drink and drugs and caused stress for all involved. If the thread is to continue , why not add pharmaceutical drugs prescibed by your friendly local doctor to the debate? Half the population is probably on anti depressants , but thats okay because their legal of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 njc110381 - we clearly don't agree - that's life. Whatever our differences - and I think some patronising statements by both of us - it pales into insignificance compared to the loss of a life. Condolences to you and your friend's family. Regards. Gordon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul65 Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 Let the Police know your suspicions and then, when you decide to sell your gaff, see how that looks when you have to declare any issues you've had with your neighbours etc. People would love to move into a house where you've felt compelled to report a 'drug dealer' living next door. Personally, I'd let it slide unless it was a real issue for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 put up a dome cam and a big light with an hyper active pir and hope it moves away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rimotu66 Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 I've got a dealer in my street, he's got a small clientele, and it's actually rather helpful. They're all polite, friendly and Respect the residents. A customer once confronted my mate when he was rooting round the back of my truck late at night! Priceless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rimotu66 Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 Did anyone answer the OP's question: How to you tell if a neighbour is dealing in drugs? To the OP, how friendly are you with the lad (at 16 that's all he is) and with his parents? I do not envy you this 'problem' if that is what it is but I would try to have a word with the parents first or the lad, if he is just 'sharing' a bit of grass then he just needs a kick up the ***, I do think it might be a bit more then that though if people are calling at night and met on the doorstep to exchange a small bag of ? If they are mates why don't they just meet and smoke together? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloggs Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 (edited) njc110381 - we clearly don't agree - that's life.Whatever our differences - and I think some patronising statements by both of us - it pales into insignificance compared to the loss of a life.Condolences to you and your friend's family.Regards.Gordon Gordon, although I'm of the same opinion as njc110381 and therefore in conflict with yours, I'd just like to say that I respect you for the above post :-) Edited September 29, 2013 by Bloggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 I see on the news today yet another high ranking police officer saying that drugs should be made legal . How does this senior officers comments sit in relation to how it is out there? “ Hello Mr Plod, I’d like to tell you about a very naughty boy down the road that is handing out horrible substances”. >> “I think”. (Mr Plod) >> “Oh thank you Sir for informing us of that”. I’ll pass it on and if they think that it is still a naughty thing to do, we MIGHT send someone down to tell him he is a very naughty boy. On the other hand we might pass it on to HM inland revenue so that they can tax him to the hilt as a legalised dealer”. “leave it with us Sir”. A lad down our road had the same sort of coming and going. He'd put something in the hedge down by his gate and an-other would soon arrive and mysteriously find a random package in the hedge. The family soon moved on. Perhaps it is nature’s way of thinning the population out a bit. After all we don’t have any predators apart from ourselves and a pandemic of some sort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 njc110381 - we clearly don't agree - that's life. Whatever our differences - and I think some patronising statements by both of us - it pales into insignificance compared to the loss of a life. Condolences to you and your friend's family. Regards. Gordon Thanks. I really appreciate that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 (edited) I can't believe the amount of angels on here who have never done anything wrong in their lives! How many of you, when you were a kid did something wrong and were lucky enough to be dealt with by the person rather than the Police and possibly ending up with a criminal record and ruining your life? Maybe it wasn't drugs? Maybe you shot the Neighbours aerial with your air rifle and were lucky enough to get a rollicking or thick ear from the Neighbour instead of a criminal record for criminal damage?(this is an example before anyone starts saying you wouldn't get done for this etc etc) We have been told that the boy is a decent lad (a rarity nowadays) so why not give him a break and speak to him direct instead of possibly getting him a criminal record and if so probably sending him down the career criminal/dealer route. Hate to sound smug but me! I was either working hard on the farm, playing rugby or at school. Never disgraced my parents other than not working hard enough at school to take advantage of a superb opportunity that they sacrificed a lot to give me. Edited September 29, 2013 by keg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 Don't listen to all that rubbish about weed being the route of all evil. Our governments have done a fantastic job of fooling the masses into believing that one of the most useful plants on our planet is poison. It's their aim to keep the pharmaceutical companies raking in the dosh. Our laws have made many people suffer needlessly. Studies have shown that compounds found in cannabis can kill cancer cells....do they want you to know that ? As for the lad selling weed......at least he ain't out getting drunk and stamping on some random dudes head. Look at our towns and cities this weekend.....how many people will end up in A&E due to alcohol? How many from weed ? Have a guess ! Our government lies to us about most things, and yet most people are all too happy to accept their policy/ views on cannabis! Are we all really that stupid? Its a hugely beneficial plant...HEMP, strongest natural fibre around, planted in and around Chernobyl because its able to suck heavy metals and poisons out of the ground. WHY IS IT BANNED? Countries/ continents that would profit from it Africa, Afghanistan, India, Nepal,Pakistan, South America etc.....get the picture? The poor lot. As NJC110381 ( thoughts and prayers are with you on your sad losses this weekend NJC) has pointed out, you do not know what you are taking with drugs. How pure is it?, what is it mixed with?. With alcohol you do. The issue with alcohol is the amount that is drunk. At a wedding this weekend ( another story in itself. I was amazed how many people ( 30-45 yrs with young children) drank themselves senseless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 As NJC110381 ( thoughts and prayers are with you on your sad losses this weekend NJC) has pointed out, you do not know what you are taking with drugs. How pure is it?, what is it mixed with?. With alcohol you do. The issue with alcohol is the amount that is drunk. Not always, sometimes cheap alcohol from a bloke down the pub is going to be dodgy and if you buy even full price alcohol you can never know if it is 100% Scroll through the pics... http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/leicester/hi/people_and_places/newsid_8285000/8285596.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 I see on the news today yet another high ranking police officer saying that drugs should be made leagle to have not deal as I have always said but people cannot get in in to there heads if we gave free drugs to adics together with help to ween them off drugs we would save a fortune. our prisons are full of young people who steel to buy drugs so in one sweep we could empty our prisons and cut down on police numbers pluss putting the drug gangs out of business. Also the real problem with drugs is buying from the street you have no idea what is in them most drugs in there pure form and administerd properly are no more danger to us that drinking or smoking but again people do not want to hear this so they shut there minds to the facts. And we fund the drugs how? Isn't that what Methadone is supposed to do? I believe some folks sell the Methadone and buy the real thing. Not always, sometimes cheap alcohol from a bloke down the pub is going to be dodgy and if you buy even full price alcohol you can never know if it is 100% Scroll through the pics... http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/leicester/hi/people_and_places/newsid_8285000/8285596.stm I agree on the fake stuff, but the issue with the "real" stuff from supermarkets and pubs is the volume not the purity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danoi99 Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 Weed today,what tomorrow? More weed, and some crisps, chocolate, pastries and perhaps a snooze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danoi99 Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 (edited) Lets cheer this up a bit now guys !! I've never had sex with a vile fat ugly pig of a women while stoned. Did a total bush pig after drinking too much Black Rat !! I actually looked down on her and thought that she looked like a carcass hanging in a butchers shop window. I couldn't finish the job and ended up throwing up all over her flatmates new sofa !! That went down well !!!! hee hee. Moderation is the key.........just remember, nothing succeeds like toothless parrot. Peace dudes Edited September 29, 2013 by Danoi99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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