davesw Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 Putting in for variation on new set up for foxing had a .223 which I was happy with but fancy a 22.250 any opinions good or bad ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 Depends on how good your eyesight is.most night shooting of foxes is under 200 yards and at that distance there is not much in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 90 Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 Personally I would go for a .204 because I have 1 & love it - blistering performance + you can stay on shot easily & watch Charlie fold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 Mate has a Ruger .204 and reckons it's the biz. Itching for a go but it hasn't happened yet. Another has the T3 Tactical in .223. Very nice and as you'll know, does everything expected of it regards foxes. I have a T3 in .243 Win, and this suits me fine for both fox and deer. I can see foxes 'fold' unless I'm on extended bipod legs to get 'over' the long grass as it is at the moment, when it tends to bounce, but the thump down range tells you all you need to know. I've been playing with the idea of a .22-250 because of its flat trajectory, but don't think I would gain anything over my .243 at the ranges I'm shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 I love my .22-250 Tikka T3 and wouldn't change it for anything else for Fox Control! ATB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davesw Posted May 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 I have a .308 for deer but fancied a change from .223 for fox the main reason for asking is that the .204 and 22.250 are fast flat shooting rounds and I would like to push past the 200 mark as had loads of chances further out but not wanted to take pot shots with the .223 but am worried about barrel life although I don't shoot loads of rounds through a gun I like to go to a range a couple of times a year Also I did read its hard to stay on target with 22.250 ? As earlier post states Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davesw Posted May 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 Depends on how good your eyesight is.most night shooting of foxes is under 200 yards and at that distance there is not much in it.eye sight is pretty good chap I go out with reckons I've had night vision lenses fitted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 I have a .308 for deer but fancied a change from .223 for fox the main reason for asking is that the .204 and 22.250 are fast flat shooting rounds and I would like to push past the 200 mark as had loads of chances further out but not wanted to take pot shots with the .223 but am worried about barrel life although I don't shoot loads of rounds through a gun I like to go to a range a couple of times a year Also I did read its hard to stay on target with 22.250 ? As earlier post states Hard to stay on target??lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam1e Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 (edited) If you "fancy" a .22-250 then go with what you want.... A bit of a barrel burner though, or at least that's what I've read..... If it's "flat" you want, and just for foxes, then my opinion is the same as Norms, (V8 90) and go with the .204 Ruger. I have both the .223 Rem and the .204 Ruger. I bought a new scope for my .223, intending to offset the cost of the scope by selling my CZ 527 in .204 Ruger. But after going out with the .204R again, I just can't bring myself to get rid of it! Nice and flat, and very good on foxes and long range rabbit bashing to! I just love it! Just a thought though, the only reason I got into reloading was due to buying the .204R and then realising the cost of the ammo!! :o Around 18 months ago, the cheapest I could find was a £1.00 a shot, going up to around £1.60 a shot!! Although it did get me into reloading, which is a nice hobby in itself! However, each to their own... Cheers Jamie Edited May 29, 2014 by jam1e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davesw Posted May 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 Yes don't mind reloading might have a think about the .204 thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berettacocker Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 .204 / .222 / .223 / .22/250 we can all debate what's best for foxing, all good but I wouldn't swap one for another Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everycal Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 I had the same choice, went .223, cant remember why now but it works fine for me! Good for munties and also roe north of the border. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markws80 Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 I had a 22.250 and loved it only sold it to get a new 243 deer rifle I use the 243 for foxing I home load and got some good loads for deer and fox I have got a slot for a 223 now just trying to find the right one Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 You will see far less impacts through the scope with a 22.250 than the others unless it is very heavy, a moddy would help that though as it dampens the muzzle rise on fireing. Most foxes are killed at well under 200 yards, at that range 204/222/223/22.250 or even 220 Swift will all do the job perfectly. A factory 22.250 is a good killer yes but in my experience is not as accurate by and large as the smaller cases within the group, on a fox it is accurate enough but a crow at 250 yards might get away with it. Shooting at 200 yards on and above on a regular basis then 204 or 22.250, dont dismiss 20s, I have easily killed foxes at around 300 yards using them, my 20 has a 95% first shot kill rate overall on foxes at all ranges. Most are sub 200 yards. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckyshot Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 I have a .308 for deer but fancied a change from .223 for fox the main reason for asking is that the .204 and 22.250 are fast flat shooting rounds and I would like to push past the 200 mark as had loads of chances further out but not wanted to take pot shots with the .223 but am worried about barrel life although I don't shoot loads of rounds through a gun I like to go to a range a couple of times a year Also I did read its hard to stay on target with 22.250 ? As earlier post states A 223 in capable hands isn't taking pot shots at 200 yards +, stick with the 223. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay222 Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 I went .223 but whichever you choose I'm sure it will do the job no problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eccles Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 Love shooting my 223 would not go any bigger for foxes as others have said most are shot between 5yards and 200 at night. Shot loads a lot further in daytime and all have dropped stone dead. atb Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davesw Posted May 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 Well I was expecting everyone to be saying 22.250 but there's still a lot of favour for the .223 it's just that I've seen a lovely r.p.a in 22.250 which got the cogs turning ! My last was a Kimber pro varmint which was a great gun but the rpa is nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshootist Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 If you've found the right gun at the right price then that's as good as any reason to choose between .223 and .22-250. I went .22-250 and have reloaded in the past but at the moment am using the 55gn Privi, fast and flat. Remember in .223 a rifle shooting 40gn bullets through a 1 in 12 is going to be a different animal to a rifle shooting up to 90gn through a 1 in 7 or 8 barrel. With the right bullet the .223 is certainly used a lot more that the .22-250 in long range shooting, just depends what you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 I would personally never even think about moving to a 22-250 if I used a .223 for fox, the only sensible step up (if you really think you need it) is a .243! Try that with a 55g V-Max, shoots like a pussycat, stings like a ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foosa Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 I use 223 and 204 ruger, they both do exactly the same thing out to 200 yards, after that the 204 is slightly flatter using 40g noslers. I use the 204 a load more than 223, simply because it's nicer to shoot,less noise and recoil and you see every impact through the scope. End of the day I don't think you will regret either 223, 204, 22-250 as they are all very good foxing calibers. I never fancied 22-250 due to the extra powder used and muzzle noise. Each to their own I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewsher500 Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 A 223 in capable hands isn't taking pot shots at 200 yards +, stick with the 223. was about to post the same thing! all this horse shizzle about flat trajectories is irrelevant until you start pushing past 4000pfs you are talking fractions of an inch at 200yds between .223 and 22-250 and it requires more powder in a 22-250 (now a 22-250 AI is another matter!) I regularly shoot past 200yds with a .222 ...at deer!! they all fall over if you can't or dont want to with a .223 then upping the charge isnt going to suddenly change things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 You say you fancy a 22.250, get what you fancy they all do the same, if you end up with something you don't fancy to start with you could always be thinking, "did I make the right choice" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davesw Posted May 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 Right staying with .223 thanks for all the input ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie g Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 You will see far less impacts through the scope with a 22.250 than the others unless it is very heavy, a moddy would help that though as it dampens the muzzle rise on fireing. Most foxes are killed at well under 200 yards, at that range 204/222/223/22.250 or even 220 Swift will all do the job perfectly. A factory 22.250 is a good killer yes but in my experience is not as accurate by and large as the smaller cases within the group, on a fox it is accurate enough but a crow at 250 yards might get away with it. Shooting at 200 yards on and above on a regular basis then 204 or 22.250, dont dismiss 20s, I have easily killed foxes at around 300 yards using them, my 20 has a 95% first shot kill rate overall on foxes at all ranges. Most are sub 200 yards. A well i think it was your rifle. i know many people and my rpa 22/250 has shot many 250 + yard crows and rabbits out to 330 yards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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