walshie Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 I posted recently about having a farm pond with only stunted rudd in it. I've fished it a couple of times since, and i'm pretty sure now that's all that's in there. I had a brainwave, but it seems almost too simple. I figured if I bought 50-100 trout of about 1lb each, they would eat the tiddlers. If I fished for the trout and kept a record, once i had caught (and eaten) the trout, the pond would logically be empty so I could then stock it with what i wanted. Or is that too simple... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Like your thinking, I'm not sure what the EA representative for the back of beyond would think but in theory it could work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Rud need less dissolved oxygen If the water ain't clean and pure your trout will taste like mud and likely die off. Clean and highly oxygenated different matter but you will need to feed them if it isn't of suitable size and food density The rudd likely sint growing because of lack of food or suitable conditions likewise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Sounds like fun, I guess the trout will breed so maybe some small ones of those as well plus the ones you do not catch. I guess you could then buy some 6lb fish to deal with those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted September 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 There used to be trout in the pond, so I know it sustains them. It's fed by a stream that goes through 20 yards of rushes before it reaches the main pond. I thought trout didn't breed? Shows how little i know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 in a year's time, when you're fed up of trying to catch the trout, just put some pike in. then some caiman to deal with the pike then a crocodile to deal with them, leaving you with a crocodile farm for the meat and some handbags! Pigeonwatch discounts will be expected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted September 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 (edited) in a year's time, when you're fed up of trying to catch the trout, just put some pike in. then some caiman to deal with the pike then a crocodile to deal with them, leaving you with a crocodile farm for the meat and some handbags! Pigeonwatch discounts will be expected Hmmm....croc skin certificate wallets. I'm just going to tell my boss to stick his job as I'm going to be rich I tell you. Rich! Edited September 29, 2015 by walshie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Hmmm....croc skin certificate wallets. I'm just going to tell my boss to stick his job as I'm going to be rich I tell you. Rich! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Might need to clean out the reeds a bit to get the water flowing trout need more oxygen than rudd , carp etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 (edited) There used to be trout in the pond, so I know it sustains them. It's fed by a stream that goes through 20 yards of rushes before it reaches the main pond. I thought trout didn't breed? Shows how little i know. Trout do not breed? How do you think you get more trout then? Bleeding cloning? Amoeba like division? Edited September 29, 2015 by secretagentmole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aled Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 If you have a stream coming into the pond, and you have 2 metres of depth in the middle you could be OK. You are nearly correct though, Rainbow Trout are highly unlikely to breed in UK waters, but Brown Trout can (unless they are triploids) if there is oxygenated gravel. Build a little weir where the stream comes in, it could improve oxygen levels? Cheers Aled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson_tom Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 I know an old lady who swallowed a cow,I wonder how she swallowed a cow?!She swallowed the cow to catch the goat,She swallowed the goat to catch the dog,She swallowed the dog to catch the cat,She swallowed the cat to catch the bird,She swallowed the bird to catch the spider,That wriggled and jiggled and tickled inside her,She swallowed the spider to catch the fly,I don't know why she swallowed the fly,I guess she'll die. I know an old lady who swallowed a horse,She's dead, of course!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 There used to be trout in the pond, so I know it sustains them. It's fed by a stream that goes through 20 yards of rushes before it reaches the main pond. I thought trout didn't breed? Shows how little i know. Many commercial fish farms will use triploid trout, couple of reasons why usually better conversion rate for feed and not coming into season with eggs for females or the head changing shape in male, triploids are unable to breed so would suit your purpose well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 If you have a stream coming into the pond, and you have 2 metres of depth in the middle you could be OK. You are nearly correct though, Rainbow Trout are highly unlikely to breed in UK waters, but Brown Trout can (unless they are triploids) if there is oxygenated gravel. Build a little weir where the stream comes in, it could improve oxygen levels? Cheers Aled Rainbow will breed with no problem, the only reason why we don't see rainbow breeding is because most rainbow are bred for commercial purposes, they will usually be triploid or all female. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted September 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 (edited) Trout do not breed? How do you think you get more trout then? Bleeding cloning? Amoeba like division? May I refer you to the answers above? Edited September 29, 2015 by walshie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 A few triploid 2lb rainbow will soon help restore the pond size structure. Find out when your local fishery is being stocked and see if they can make a side trip to you on stocking day with a dozen fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted September 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 A few triploid 2lb rainbow will soon help restore the pond size structure. Find out when your local fishery is being stocked and see if they can make a side trip to you on stocking day with a dozen fish. Thanks for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 There used to be trout in the pond, so I know it sustains them. It's fed by a stream that goes through 20 yards of rushes before it reaches the main pond. I thought trout didn't breed? Shows how little i know. Tripliod trout don't breed and grow faster these are what you need as they grow faster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 You could end up with a right old load of trudd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldweld Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Since Jan 2015 you can only legally stock triploid trout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpkiller Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 What about perch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted September 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 What about perch? Yeah, I thought about them for some time, but apparently they are very hard to get hold of and have a high mortality rate. I was going down the trout route because i can eat them when they've done their job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Everyone is spot on with the tripploids,should fit the bill nicely. Has ur pond got an outlet? I'd be looking to put some sort of mesh/grid over it to stop fish swimming out. Prob not as easy as it sounds as it will then have to be cleaned to stop it crudding up and cope with floods Or build a sluice might be easier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 What about perch? In a limited water, perch will suffer the same homogeneous fate as rudd though not quite as bad as they will predate their own if a few larger ones survive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 There used to be trout in the pond, so I know it sustains them. It's fed by a stream that goes through 20 yards of rushes before it reaches the main pond. I thought trout didn't breed? Shows how little i know. hello, as far as i know rainbow trout do not breed in our lakes and ponds, why dont you contact a fish farm near you to get some info. or put in some perch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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