Wasting NHS Time and money

[kyska]

I have to call on the ambulance service a fair amount for my daughter who has very unstable asthma. You can tell when it's a drinking night as they are keener to stay on the job than taxi drunks about

The Americans have the solution the bar owner gets charged for over serving they can also be sued by the drunk themselves if they hurt themselves as a result

My son too, in fact we were in over Christmas, very nearly in intensive care and a ventilator.

 

Can I pm you, just to see how you deal with it? We have so many conflicting opinions from Dr's.

[shaun4860]

+1 and my prescriptions are free.

Mine too

 

[Old farrier]

Breakfast

And I pay for my prescription

 

I'm sure there are some that appear to waste the time of the nhs and a and e

Easy to judge when you don't have the full picture

All the best

Of

[shaun4860]

If you double that and add a few more then you might catch me up.....

 

But must admit, yours are a nicer colour

 

[Vince Green]

I really don't see the need to prescribe over the counter medicines like paracetomol. Whatever the circumstances the patient should just buy them.

 

They are talking on the radio about a proposal to supply Ecigarettes on prescription. thats just crazy

Edited January 4, 2016 by Vince Green

[joe1978]

Breakfast

And I pay for my prescription

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I'm sure there are some that appear to waste the time of the nhs and a and e

Easy to judge when you don't have the full picture

All the best

Of

This is a great game.

I'm a pharmacist and I think I've ID'd 8 of them, others I could guess at by working backwards from meds to potential diagnosis back to potential meds again! Don't mean to make light but it's interesting to me haha

[phaedra1106]

I recognise a few of those as well but I think I have better pain killers

 

They look remarkably like my "breakfast"

 

 

Just looked at that and realised I'm 2 missing!, a second green & yellow and another small white one, better go find them!

Edited January 4, 2016 by phaedra1106

[Old farrier]

This is a great game.

I'm a pharmacist and I think I've ID'd 8 of them, others I could guess at by working backwards from meds to potential diagnosis back to potential meds again! Don't mean to make light but it's interesting to me haha

Only 6 types there mate just quantity of some do you want lunch and supper

😋😋😋

PM if you want to see if you gessed correctly

All the best

Of

[shaun4860]

I really don't see the need to prescribe over the counter medicines like paracetomol. Whatever the circumstances the patient should just buy them.

The problem with "just buying them" is the quantities you're allowed to buy, 32.

 

I have 8 a day so every 4 days come what may I would have to go back to the shops.

 

I'm entitled to them on prescription, prescribed by a surgeon and verified by my GP.

 

I get free prescriptions because I'm Diabetic. So have no issues with getting them on prescription.

 

[welsh1]

I really don't see the need to prescribe over the counter medicines like paracetomol. Whatever the circumstances the patient should just buy them.

 

They are talking on the radio about a proposal to supply Ecigarettes on prescription. thats just crazy

It is the amount as said that you need,mine are prescribed along with other pills for pain relief,ironically the paracetamol have no effect on me as regards pain as I am "immune"to the pain relief opiate in them,but they also have an anti inflammatory effect so are taken for that ,my pain relief cones from 9 nefopam tablets a day,but sad to say I need to get an appointment with the pain clinic as these no longer have the effect they did.I only take 18 tablets a day and compared to some that is a small number,6 of those are paracetamol.

[AVB]

The purpose of my original post was not questioning whether paracetamol should be available on the NHS. It was questioning whether waiting two hours, on a weekend, in order to see a nurse to get a prescription for paracetamol was a waste of not only their own time but also that of stretched NHS staff.

[grrclark]

The purpose of my original post was not questioning whether paracetamol should be available on the NHS. It was questioning whether waiting two hours, on a weekend, in order to see a nurse to get a prescription for paracetamol was a waste of not only their own time but also that of stretched NHS staff.

Yes, an abusive waste of resource for such a trivial thing.

[bruno22rf]

welsh1-may I suggest you have a word with your Doc.- Paracetamol is virtually useless as an anti-inflammatory.

[shaun4860]

welsh1-may I suggest you have a word with your Doc.- Paracetamol is virtually useless as an anti-inflammatory.

I'm afraid I have to agree, you would be better off with ibruprofen,

 

Mine are used as a "top up" to my OxyContin painkillers,

 

I totally agree with the OP about being a waste of time,

 

As I said, if I muck up on my prescription then I buy them until it is ready

 

[keg]

Yes, an abusive waste of resource for such a trivial thing.

+1 I think most of us know someone in the profession that has come across this. It's not a recent thing either, a now retired GS who worked in Leeds saw this in the 1980s where families claimed they could not afford things like calpol, wanted it on script after calling him out but had all the latest kit and a huge dog they were feeding.

[Vince Green]

I'm afraid I have to agree, you would be better off with ibruprofen,

 

Mine are used as a "top up" to my OxyContin painkillers,

 

I totally agree with the OP about being a waste of time,

 

As I said, if I muck up on my prescription then I buy them until it is ready

 

You don't need to buy them your pharmacist has a budget to give them to you free on the NHS without a prescription but there has been a recent investigation into pharmacistss trousering the budget and not passing on the savings to the customer.

[CharlieT]

Back to the OP

 

The guy must be brain dead if he can quite happily sit twiddling his fingers for half a morning to save a few pence. What worries me even more though, is the fact that such people are allowed to vote !

[Vince Green]

Back to the OP

 

The guy must be brain dead if he can quite happily sit twiddling his fingers for half a morning to save a few pence. What worries me even more though, is the fact that such people are allowed to vote !

People are more than happy to spend hours twiddling their thumbs in A+E. A good friend is a Charge Nurse in A+E and they get people in with runny noses and similarly trivial complaints all day every day. Thats part of the problem, nobody ever gets turned away no matter how silly

 

He advocates a charge to use A+E and has done for years

Edited January 4, 2016 by Vince Green

[figgy]

The shoot Sheeps on Hillbilly Heroin, Oxy Contin is supposed to be highly addictive. Watched a programme about the effects Oxy Cotton as its nick named in the states. Showed a real bad problem. I was prescribed it under the name Oxy codone iirc can't say it worked any better than Ibuprofen and Paracetamol together. Never took the full course I stopped taking them as soon as I found out what it was.

Edited January 4, 2016 by figgy

[Lloyd90]

Watched a show last night on 5 on Demand I think, violence in A+E

 

God the staff took some abuse, drunks and drug users coming back and forth ALL DAY assaulting and abusing them.

 

There were a handful with dementia or Alzheimer's who got violent and were highly confused and one fella who had brain surgery and was going mad on everyone. At least when he came round he apologised and was thanking the staff for keeping him safe.

 

The drunks etc though were really taking the ****, coming in claiming they didn't have anywhere else to go, assaulting nurses and staff, fighting security, being arrested and coming back the next day to do it all again.

 

Obviously they're not in a sound state of mind, similar to the brain guy or the one with Alzheimer's , but God I felt bad for the staff having to put up with it!

[loriusgarrulus]

If you go to the pharmacy rather than the supermarket you can buy pain killers and anti inflamatories like Paracetamol and Ibuprofen respectively in large boxes.

I buy boxes of 96 Cuprofen and 100 Paracetamol at a time from our local pharmacy.

It still works out cheaper than prescription charges and hanging round the Doctors picking bugs up from all the sick people in there.

 

Paracetamol and Ibuprofen can be taken together if you need a bit of a boost as they work differently and don't clash with each other.

 

I use the Cuprofen because funnily enough one 400mg tablet of Cuprofen (Ibuprofen) seems to work better for me than 2x 200mg tablets of ibuprofen.

Might be something in the way its formulated.

[Twistedsanity]

I trust all those posting critical comments are tee total non smokers who are not obese then?

[Lloyd90]

I trust all those posting critical comments are tee total non smokers who are not obese then?

What's that got to do with going into EMERGENCY departments with trivial, minor or time wasting conditions ? Pretty sure that's what most people are annoyed about!

[felly100]

The OP stated it was a walk in centre,getting pain relief is one of the reasons it was set up.

[neutron619]

The shoot Sheeps on Hillbilly Heroin, Oxy Contin is supposed to be highly addictive. Watched a programme about the effects Oxy Cooton as its nick named in the states. Showed a real bad problem. I was prescribed it under the name Oxy codone iirc can't say it worked any better than Ibuprofen and Paracetamol together. Never took the full course. Stopped as soon as I found out what it was.

 

If it didn't work for you, then fair enough not to take it, but it never ceases to amaze me the lengths to which the media goes to try to paint opiates as being so dangerously addictive, when in fact, that's not the case.

 

I've come to understand that opiates are actually only moderately physically addictive - far less so than the nicotine in cigarettes, for instance. From my limited experience of working in a healthcare environment, dependence on opiates seems to me to be for the most part psychological. The combination of boredom and hopelessness in one's prospects of the stereotypical addict could hardly be alleviated more effectively than by a class of drugs, which, in high doses, tend to make one simply "not care".

 

I knew of one GP in my previous job, who believed - apparently genuinely - that there was no real reason that anyone with a clean supply of both opiate drug and needles couldn't live an otherwise productive, high-functioning life, in spite of an addition to heroin or codeine or the like. He said that there was no reason one couldn't shoot up at 7pm each day, spend the evening in a stupor, then make a cup of tea and go to bed, waking refreshed for the next day at work. The suggestion was in fact that many people, who don't come to the attention of the police or social services through committing crime to feed their habit, apparently do just that.

 

Of course, there may be political, social and economic reasons why people should be encouraged not to take opiates recreationally, but in terms of personal health, they aren't particularly toxic (they mimic endorphins, which the body produces naturally) and if you discount the risks of adulterants in the drug and disease from shared needles, the major risk, if there is one, is from venous infection and collapse due to repeated self-injection. In a well-adjusted person, the symptoms of addiction can be as mild as irritability - on a similar level to that which lots of us would experience if we missed our morning coffee.

 

My personal view, though I've never needed anything more than the odd spot of morphine or codeine pill here and there for broken bones and shingles, is that opiates are under-used, medicinally. I can't help but thinking that a lot of trouble would have been saved if, rather than trying to burn the Opium crops in Afghanistan, we'd simply paid the growers to switch sides and help alleviate the worldwide shortage of medicinal opiates. Certainly drug dealers / the Taliba would have had less cash to play with if we hadn't inflated the price of heroin by reducing the world's black market supply....

 

Ah well - some thoughts there.

Edited January 4, 2016 by neutron619