Stop this injustice NOW!

[Rewulf]

It would seem the residents of the Jungle at Calais are not impressed about having to move from their filthy tent camp to a more secure,cleaner area (where a lot are already living) that has been made by the French to accommodate them.

They are apparently worried,and literally up in arms that, they may be asked to apply for asylum in ...France.

 

Is there no justice in this world?

Have they not suffered enough?

All they want is to get to their 'chosen' destination, the UK.

 

Lucky for them they have 'activists' to protect their err, rights from this heinous crime.

 

You couldnt make it up..

[Vince Green]

Yes well we have Tony Baloney to thank for starting the stampede

 

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/02/28/former-british-prime-minister-tony-blair-accused-of-conspiracy-of-silence-to-flood-britain-with-two-million-migrants/

[SneakyD]

Lucky for them they have 'activists' to protect their err, rights from this heinous crime.

 

 

It would seem that they are not too impressed with the efforts of the 'activists'.

 

[dodeer]

Whole lot of them are animals and shouldn't be allowed here. Sadly we all know what is coming..

[Gordon R]

You could be forgiven for expecting them to be model citizens, thus demonstrating what they could add to the UK. Sadly, they have shown themselves to be lawless thugs, with little or no regard to the law of the land.

 

They seem to know that they can cause all the trouble that they want and some idiot will still plead their case for them.

[Livefast123]

Don't they realise first impressions count, it's that kind of neanderthal behaviour that tars them all with the same brush, genuine or not.

 

The sooner we get a Brexit and the fat controller bricks up the tunnel the better.

[old'un]

Yep you can see it now large inner-city areas full of these people creating a society within a society and when they are not happy with something they will resort to this type of behaviour, never mind the do-gooders keep telling us we live in a multicultural, integrated, harmonious society so it will be ok.

[andrew f]

look after our own and **** everybody else

[Dr D]

So here's the thing.

 

1. It is a 'rights' issue. But that doesn't mean they have the 'right' to come to the UK. More importantly, for many it is a humanitarian law issue and those who are refugees should be protected at their first stop outside of the relevant war zone. But setting that aside I would worry at the one size fits all judgement!

2. You would need to be blind not to see the unaccompanied children! Surely everyone's humanity would want to protect them?

3. France needs to do more, but so does the UK. After all, we not blameless for the tide sweeping Europe at the minute.

4. Yes there are economic migrants, but there are also people leaving the above situation and they sure as hell arn't fleeing simply for the 'good life'.

 

Sometimes the simplistic rubbish spouted is beyond belief.

Edited March 1, 2016 by Dr D

[Fuji Shooter]

You could be forgiven for expecting them to be model citizens, thus demonstrating what they could add to the UK. Sadly, they have shown themselves to be lawless thugs, with little or no regard to the law of the land.

Should fit in a treat over here then

[Rewulf]

So here's the thing.

 

1. It is a 'rights' issue. But that doesn't mean they have the 'right' to come to the UK. More importantly, for many it is a humanitarian law issue and those who are refugees should be protected at their first stop outside of the relevant war zone. But setting that aside I would worry at the one size fits all judgement!

2. You would need to be blind not to see the unaccompanied children! Surely everyone's humanity would want to protect them?

3. France needs to do more, but so does the UK. After all, we not blameless for the tide sweeping Europe at the minute.

4. Yes there are economic migrants, but there are also people leaving the above situation and they sure as hell arn't fleeing simply for the 'good life'.

 

Sometimes the simplistic rubbish spouted is beyond belief.

 

Simplistic rubbish?

Yes ,it is quite simple,if they are that desperate they should claim asylum in France.

Not riot,throwing rocks and missiles at police and journalists ,just because they 'think' or they 'might' be 'forced ' to claim asylum when they are re housed.

 

2. You would need to be blind not to see the unaccompanied children! Surely everyone's humanity would want to protect them?

 

So why dont the French put them into care?

How did they become unaccompanied ,did their parents leave them there whilst they clung to the underside of a lorry for their dash to 'freedom'

Or did they trek alone all the way from wherever they came from?

There is probably more to this than it appears.

 

3. France needs to do more, but so does the UK. After all, we not blameless for the tide sweeping Europe at the minute.

 

Why ,what did we do?

 

4. Yes there are economic migrants, but there are also people leaving the above situation and they sure as hell arn't fleeing simply for the 'good life'.

 

No, they are economic migrants,or they wouldnt be cherry picking the country they wish to claim asylum in.

Im not saying some have not had a rough time,but most are very much looking for 'the good life'

[paulnix]

So here's the thing.

 

1. It is a 'rights' issue. But that doesn't mean they have the 'right' to come to the UK. More importantly, for many it is a humanitarian law issue and those who are refugees should be protected at their first stop outside of the relevant war zone. But setting that aside I would worry at the one size fits all judgement!

2. You would need to be blind not to see the unaccompanied children! Surely everyone's humanity would want to protect them?

3. France needs to do more, but so does the UK. After all, we not blameless for the tide sweeping Europe at the minute.

4. Yes there are economic migrants, but there are also people leaving the above situation and they sure as hell arn't fleeing simply for the 'good life'.

 

Sometimes the simplistic rubbish spouted is beyond belief.

Just because a child is not with an adult when a picture is taken doesn't make it unaccompanied, esp as a lot of photo's and videos are manipulated by the media.

Why does France and the UK need to do more ? saying we are not blameless isn't a reason for us to take them in. You could say we helped them for years keeping the peace and once we gave them what they wanted they couldn't keep it.

If they were fleeing the warzone then it would be families with children making up the vast majority of those running away, they are coming here for the "good life ", Over 80% of these migrants are young males, if they were fleeing the situation then those males would be trying to keep their families safe and together or staying behind to try and make their country safe again for their families to return, I believe if they aren't willing to fight for their own country ( no matter if they fight for Assad or against him in Syria's case ) then they don't deserve to live in mine.

[UKPoacher]

Regards point 3

 

We, 'The West' contributed to this by destroying the power base in Iraq and Afghanistan amongst other places. We created the power vacuum in those areas that have been filled with ISIS. However, many of these so-called refugees are not from war torn countries, but are people seeking a better life elsewhere. The problem is sorting those from the genuine displaced war refugees.

 

The other major point is that good ol' Uncle Sam was complicit in this up to their red necks. But I don't think they'll be keen to accept their fair share of war refugees somehow. Especially if Trump gets in.

[old'un]

So here's the thing.

 

1. It is a 'rights' issue. But that doesn't mean they have the 'right' to come to the UK. More importantly, for many it is a humanitarian law issue and those who are refugees should be protected at their first stop outside of the relevant war zone. But setting that aside I would worry at the one size fits all judgement!

2. You would need to be blind not to see the unaccompanied children! Surely everyone's humanity would want to protect them?

3. France needs to do more, but so does the UK. After all, we not blameless for the tide sweeping Europe at the minute.

4. Yes there are economic migrants, but there are also people leaving the above situation and they sure as hell arn't fleeing simply for the 'good life'.

 

Sometimes the simplistic rubbish spouted is beyond belief.

 

So here's the thing you are off topic, the thread its about their reaction to being moved into better conditions and the fact that they will have to give their details to the French authorities thus making it more difficult for them to come to the UK, so what's their reaction to something they don't like???

 

Also 2. You would need to be blind not to see the unaccompanied children.

Same could be said of the hundreds of unaccompanied young men.

[Gordon R]

Over 80% of these migrants are young males, if they were fleeing the situation then those males would be trying to keep their families safe and together or staying behind to try and make their country safe again for their families to return, I believe if they aren't willing to fight for their own country ( no matter if they fight for Assad or against him in Syria's case ) then they don't deserve to live in mine.

 

 

Agreed. They seem keen enough to fight against the French authorities or the French people, but curiously not willing to stay and help their own country.

 

old'un. I just missed your post whilst writing mine. I agree.

Edited March 1, 2016 by Gordon R

[TIGHTCHOKE]

So here's the thing.

 

1. It is a 'rights' issue. But that doesn't mean they have the 'right' to come to the UK. More importantly, for many it is a humanitarian law issue and those who are refugees should be protected at their first stop outside of the relevant war zone. But setting that aside I would worry at the one size fits all judgement!

2. You would need to be blind not to see the unaccompanied children! Surely everyone's humanity would want to protect them?

3. France needs to do more, but so does the UK. After all, we not blameless for the tide sweeping Europe at the minute.

4. Yes there are economic migrants, but there are also people leaving the above situation and they sure as hell arn't fleeing simply for the 'good life'.

 

Sometimes the simplistic rubbish spouted is beyond belief.

 

I quite agree can the French not look after them?

Edited March 1, 2016 by TIGHTCHOKE

[jam1e]

 

Simplistic rubbish?

Yes ,it is quite simple,if they are that desperate they should claim asylum in France.

Not riot,throwing rocks and missiles at police and journalists ,just because they 'think' or they 'might' be 'forced ' to claim asylum when they are re housed.

 

2. You would need to be blind not to see the unaccompanied children! Surely everyone's humanity would want to protect them?

 

So why dont the French put them into care?

How did they become unaccompanied ,did their parents leave them there whilst they clung to the underside of a lorry for their dash to 'freedom'

Or did they trek alone all the way from wherever they came from?

There is probably more to this than it appears.

 

3. France needs to do more, but so does the UK. After all, we not blameless for the tide sweeping Europe at the minute.

 

Why ,what did we do?

 

4. Yes there are economic migrants, but there are also people leaving the above situation and they sure as hell arn't fleeing simply for the 'good life'.

 

No, they are economic migrants,or they wouldnt be cherry picking the country they wish to claim asylum in.

Im not saying some have not had a rough time,but most are very much looking for 'the good life'

+1 Enough said...

[Vince Green]

I can be sympathetic without wanting to have to support them for the rest of their lives.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2155726/Somali-family-benefits-handed-keys--2million-luxury-council-home-Londons-affluent-streets.html

 

This is why people don't want to help them

Edited March 1, 2016 by Vince Green

[McSpredder]

When I worked in Africa and Asia, it was easy to spot the poor - they were thin, wearing rags, and with few possessions.

 

The would-be immigrants who feature on every TV new bulletin appear to be better fed than I am, better clothed than I am, and carrying mobile electronic devices that are vastly more expensive than mine.

 

What conclusions should I draw?

[Dr D]

Ah, gentlemen the dialogue of the deaf is alive and well on PWs as per usual. I respond to only two points and then leave you to it for a bit. It's the children issue. Many are unaccompanied and that is well documented and they are unaccompanied for a whole variety of reasons. Second point, if you have to ask the question 'what did we do?' Then you must be living in a bubble. The middle East has imploded and we 'the west' largely lead by our closest friend 'uncle sam' have been up to our eyes in it. Its all well and good to conduct a 'just war'. But with war comes moral responsibilities. And as I said from the outset, this does not mean I disagree with the economic migrant argument per se. I simply think a moment of reflection before blanket stereotyping would add some balance.

 

Hundreds of thousands of people don't do this lightly.

 

There but for the grace of God my friends.

Edited March 1, 2016 by Dr D

[motty]

When I worked in Africa and Asia, it was easy to spot the poor - they were thin, wearing rags, and with few possessions.The would-be immigrants who feature on every TV new bulletin appear to be better fed than I am, better clothed than I am, and carrying mobile electronic devices that are vastly more expensive than mine.What conclusions should I draw?

Hmmm... Sounds like you are describing all the benefit scroungers that live near me!

[rodp]

No, you're wrong, HERE'S the thing

 

 

So here's the thing.

1. It is a 'rights' issue. But that doesn't mean they have the 'right' to come to the UK. More importantly, for many it is a humanitarian law issue and those who are refugees should be protected at their first stop outside of the relevant war zone. But setting that aside I would worry at the one size fits all judgement!
2. You would need to be blind not to see the unaccompanied children! Surely everyone's humanity would want to protect them? And ?
3. France needs to do more, but so does the UK. After all, we not blameless for the tide sweeping Europe at the minute. I am.
4. Yes there are economic migrants, but there are also people leaving the above situation and they sure as hell arn't fleeing simply for the 'good life'. So ?

Sometimes the simplistic rubbish spouted is beyond belief.

 

If you want to invite a few over to live with you, and YOU support them in housing, feeding, clothing, medical etc, etc then feel free. BUT, for heavens sake stop telling ME what I should do. I'll tell YOU how it really is, I DON'T CARE, IT'S NOT MY PROBLEM !! Never was and never will be !! OK, got it ? Stop telling others what they should be doing. If being a do gooder makes you feel all warm and cuddly then carry on, but please, do it at your own expense and don't involve us. We, the general public, have done nothing what so ever to make this our problem so most of us don't feel guilty in the slightest, not even a tiny little bit

 

Rant over

[Dr D]

No, you're wrong, HERE'S the thing

 

 

 

If you want to invite a few over to live with you, and YOU support them in housing, feeding, clothing, medical etc, etc then feel free. BUT, for heavens sake stop telling ME what I should do. I'll tell YOU how it really is, I DON'T CARE, IT'S NOT MY PROBLEM !! Never was and never will be !! OK, got it ? Stop telling others what they should be doing. If being a do gooder makes you feel all warm and cuddly then carry on, but please, do it at your own expense and don't involve us. We, the general public, have done nothing what so ever to make this our problem so most of us don't feel guilty in the slightest, not even a tiny little bit

 

Rant over

Thought that would get you going rodp!!! 😁😁 Edited March 1, 2016 by Dr D

[rodp]

Thought that would get you going rodp!!!

Truth though isn't it, I defy you to tell me just one thing that makes any of it anything to do with me

[clakk]

Nowt Syria was part of the French empire and so ergot the French can look after em and when peace is declared as in Afgan wonder why they havent gone home