17hmr for fox????

[Phil9]

Just wondering what ur views are on useing 17hmr for fox???

[Medic1281]

More than capable depending on range and skill of shooter.

[kennett]

On the right fox, under the right conditions it will drop them like a sack of poop. My use is harvest time Cubs that run right in to the truck, too close to waste a 223 bullet and a bit quieter.

Admittedly I wouldn't have one as my one and only fox gun, at normal lamping ranges (100-200yds) there isn't enough knock down power left and little or no room for error

[welsh1]

Be sensible about your distance,shoot to your ability,make sure of shot placement,no problems.

If you want long range shots speak to your force for a .223 or similar.

[zipdog]

Here we go again. In short, I would not want to be shot with a 17hmr at 100 yards. It will kill a fox with the right placement and at the right distance, but it is not a dedicated fox round.

[mick miller]

Thank god someone else said it. You also cannot really rely on shot placement with the hmr, too many flyers for my liking.

[ShootingEgg]

I've taken fox with my 17 but as said above, not at silly distance and make sure you hit the right spot.

[Mentalmac]

If you are consistently ok with the HMR on rabbit headshots at varying ranges and winds then I would say HMR is fine on fox up to around 75 yards (well under 100 anyhow) over that and it becomes a little 'hit or miss' and a slight miss will end up a wounded fox, rather than with Rabbits where the damage is still usually terminal even if not entirely accurate.

[hyflier]

Out to 100 yds, I've not even had one twitch. They go down as dead as a doornail, as the previous replies are saying, be aware of the distance and make sure of the shot placement. Take into account any crosswind, I've been lucky with the weather and taken them on nights when there was little or no wind.

 

Best result ever was three in one evening when my friend's chicken pen was being raided regularly by this little group

[sako751sg]

Thank god someone else said it. You also cannot really rely on shot placement with the hmr, too many flyers for my liking.

Flyers with your .17hmr?

I would get it checked out as i have non with the CZ455 unless its driver error.

[mick miller]

I would get it checked out as i have non with the CZ455 unless its driver error.

[malkiserow]

Good for near foxes especially around livestock where you need a "non-exit" bullet.

[paulnix]

No problems shooting foxes with them, just don't expect CF ranges.

[WelshMike]

Not a dedicated fox calibre but more then capable of dropping them with correct shot placement. I will head shoot them out to about the 100 yard mark but thats the maximum range. I have only ever shot foxes with the HMR when out after rabbits as I find the .243 gives me a few more options and a lot less walking to get within range.

[robbietherimmer]

fine IMO

you put up a target at 100 yards say 10mm osb board fixed to say 3"X2" CLS backing boards. Now take some shots with an hmr and a 22-250; look at the back your target board and I guarantee you a bullet hole will be through both the board and cls from each round. These `not a suitable rifle` lot are talking rubbish. A sensible shot in the right conditions/range is deadly

[Dead-Eyed Duck]

fine IMO

you put up a target at 100 yards say 10mm osb board fixed to say 3"X2" CLS backing boards. Now take some shots with an hmr and a 22-250; look at the back your target board and I guarantee you a bullet hole will be through both the board and cls from each round. These `not a suitable rifle` lot are talking rubbish. A sensible shot in the right conditions/range is deadly

 

The last thing shooters need is for a fox with a large hole in it to limp into someone's garden and then be found by Joe Public.

 

I have shot foxes at 100 yards with my hmr, and would not do so again because one dropped and then ran round until I gave it a 2nd shot. I would choose my 223 every time as there is no messing about - any decent cf has masses of more energy than a hmr to do the job properly at 100 yards or more.

 

Accuracy is only as relevant as the conditions and the shooter behind the gun. I have shot literally dozens of foxes with various calibres of cf, and shot placement is far more 'forgiving' than with an hmr, and there are plenty out there who will always stretch a guns capabilities (and lets ignore the fact that some are hopeless at estimating range).

[mick miller]

This ^. It's not about 'bragging rights', it's about doing a job properly. Then add into the mix the unreliable batches of HMR ammunition, well documented, that give you faster, slower, stuck, squib and wayward rounds every now and again.

 

If you might be a little 'off' better to do so with a calibre that is more forgiving of errors. It's just a matter of ethics, I like my stuff dead as fast and as humanely as possible.

[Dekers]

I simply never understand these type of posts or some responses.

 

Use any calibre within its capabilities and that of the user and ammunition.

 

My HMR drops every fox I pull the trigger on!

 

So does my .22lr, WMR, .223, .243, .308, even the shotgun.

 

 

These 3 were with .22lr subs.

 

 

These 4 were HMR 17g V-Max

Edited April 30, 2016 by Dekers

[ShootingEgg]

Deckers,

 

The answer to you question is nothing is wrong with using an hmr..

 

 

Every rifle has its capabilities and its limits. Stay within the limits and its all good.

[Dekers]

Deckers,

 

The answer to you question is nothing is wrong with using an hmr..

 

 

Every rifle has its capabilities and its limits. Stay within the limits and its all good.

 

That's what I said!

 

Edited April 30, 2016 by Dekers

[kingsy18]

Myself don,t see a problem with the hmr up to 100yds,its not a centerfire round but if you put it in the right place it will do its job,don,t say i,m a perfect shot but i,ve had runners with a 223 plus 204 and found them next day dead up to 50 - 60 yds away.

[team tractor]

I've never had a runner but that might be just luck . The last one I had was 129 yards while I was zeroing lol . It just walked out and was a young male. It dropped on the spot.

It's amazing little round but also has its limits.

[Katash]

What is the better HMR round for Fox 17gr ballistic or 20gr hollow point?

 

(Getting a HMR soon)

[Dekers]

100% 17g V-Max for me, there may be very occasional situations where some people will prefer the 20g HP.

[Dekers]

Thank god someone else said it. You also cannot really rely on shot placement with the hmr, too many flyers for my liking.

 

 

Mick, you don't like the HMR, that is pretty obvious from many of your posts. such is life.

 

Fact is I CAN rely on shot placement, I don't get fliers, and the odd hang fire I've had has still resulted in dead quarry with the shot. At the moment I've had squid loads with .22lr, .223 and shotgun, but to date never the HMR.

 

I am fully well aware of the ammo situation and it is far from good, but I have a place for the HMR and it works for me.