Blundy Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 I was granted my licence in July , But was called today by guy who granted licence. Asking to come to see me on Friday as the Drs have written letter of concern over my previous drinking habits . When I was younger I did drink too much and went to Drs for advice on reducing my drinking . My question is is their possibility of losing my licence???😞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 BASC mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lister22 Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 speak to your doctor also get advice from your shooting association Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodlander Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 If it was a while ago,tell them you've put that all behind you now and just have the odd glass of wine with a meal. Really don't think they can hold it against you now your wild days are over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belly47 Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 I was granted my licence in July , But was called today by guy who granted licence. Asking to come to see me on Friday as the Drs have written letter of concern over my previous drinking habits . When I was younger I did drink too much and went to Drs for advice on reducing my drinking . My question is is their possibility of losing my licence??? Just out of interest did you declare on the application that you had previous drinking issues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blundy Posted September 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 No . I never even saw anything asking about it if I'm honest . It was bout 15 years ago when this happened . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Didn't we all drink too much sometimes when we were younger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Don't get in a panic about it, FEO will just want to make sure its something buried in the past, as said, we all have drunk to much at some stage of our lives and the police that used to frequent my local were no exceptions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 (edited) Mate dont worry,as long as doctor isnt telling isnt an illness.I got done for being drunk when i was 18/19 locked up all night after a all day bender in Durham.Took to court and fined, i put it in my application and chatted to the FEO when he landed for the interview as he mentioned it.I advised him that it in my youth and that i was totally ashamed of it.I advised him that i grew up,and drank sensibly after that event.In fact when he came to do my interview i said i have the odd glass of red poss every two months.For example that last time i had a glass was on my wifes birthday in March and the next will prob be on my birthay in October. Just be open and honest about it mate.I got my SGC @ 35 so a bit of time had passed since my offence(something that i am totally ashamed of even today @ the age of 54. Edited September 21, 2016 by Davyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 My gun ticket would of been taken of me years ago if that was the case, had it since 14. It's getting so everyone seems scared to live there lifes incase there gun tickets are taken off them. Luckily i grew up in a more relaxed time but having a gun licence never comes into my head still done plenty of daft things in my youth Even now i still like a good binge drink if i get the chance but not that often nowadays, unfortunately Really don't see wot the problem is, as long as ur not an alcholic. Ur guns are no more a danger than ur car sitting on the drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Just what prompted the Doctor to write the letter? Are we getting the full script? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 (edited) Just what prompted the Doctor to write the letter? Are we getting the full script? I would guess Gordon because of the new protocol where ALL applicants GP's are written to asking if they have any concerns with their patient being granted or having their FAC/SGC renewed. This being the case, one can only presume that the OPs GP has valid concerns. I should also add that firearms licensing have been writing to GP's after they have issued the certificate, so the time frame fits. Edited September 21, 2016 by CharlieT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Dunno how old you were 15 years ago, marital status etc, A lot of growing up can be got in 15 years, marriage kids and home owning for example can make a man out of a total **** over a period. Things that have helped you turn your life around would be best discussed in the interview. Be slightly concerned - but not overly bothered IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetter Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Also mate you can point out to the FEO that you went to the Drs to get advice on how to reduce your drinkning i.e. you were proactive and got help to sort it out back then. If your habits are in the normal range now and have been for a fair while I cant see how they can have an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Didn't we all drink too much sometimes when we were younger?No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 No There's always one isn't there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycho Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 BASC if not a member you should have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 I would guess Gordon because of the new protocol where ALL applicants GP's are written to asking if they have any concerns with their patient being granted or having their FAC/SGC renewed. This being the case, one can only presume that the OPs GP has valid concerns. I should also add that firearms licensing have been writing to GP's after they have issued the certificate, so the time frame fits. Those are my thoughts, but it did seem a long time span from the problem of 15 years ago to raising it as concern now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 There's always one isn't there Probably many more, I'm almost tee total now but even as a young chap i was never a big drinker and never got into trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Those are my thoughts, but it did seem a long time span from the problem of 15 years ago to raising it as concern now. It does rather. However, only the GP and the OP know the true history behind this. Drinking habits, be they truly 15 years ago, range from getting blotto every Saturday night as an 18 year old to an alcoholic who downed a bottle of vodka every day before breakfast who's GP's view is that he still strives hard to stay off the bottle and is likely to fall off the wagon at any time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 There's always one isn't there +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 (edited) Standard knee-jerk reaction from the crowd "BASC BASC BASC!!!" Rather than getting on the offensive, just take the meeting, listen to what he has to say and say what you have to say. If you feel you've been unfairly treated THEN get BASC involved. Edited September 22, 2016 by Billy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Blimey good job I don't go to the Dr my files about 5 pages. I wouldn't be allowed a pudding spoon let alone a Firearm if they studied my drinking habits of yesteryear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrowningB525 Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Standard knee-jerk reaction from the crowd "BASC BASC BASC!!!" Rather than getting on the offensive, just take the meeting, listen to what he has to say and say what you have to say. If you feel you've been unfairly treated THEN get BASC involved. Seeking advice before the meeting is not a bad thing. We pay for our membership, may as well get our moneys worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 I had this a couple of years ago,Ive tried to find the thread but I can only go so far back. Basically I had SGC granted then FAC couple of months later,all good. Now I assumed that doctors report was checked before grants,it wasnt. I got a phone call from an FEO asking me to lodge all firearms,ammunition ect and send both certs back to them. Basically my doctor had told them I consumed 50 + units of alcohol per week,and I was classed as 'intemperate' It goes like this,some 4 years previously,with a different doctor,I asked him about acid reflux. How much do you drink? he asks, me - 2 or 3 pints a night. And his sum went thus, 3 pints x 2.5 units each x7 = 50+ units ,and gets entered into my medical records. The RDA these days is 14 units ,thats 5 pints a week,remember that. 3 months later I got everything back,BASC didnt get involved ,but were ready to. I sort of got an apology on the phone from the FLM ,swiftly followed by a stern letter from him warning me about 'intemperance' The best advice I can give you is this,get your doctor on side ,and get him to alter your records to show you no longer drink to excess,in fact you barely drink at all. If you are not a member of a shooting org, then make sure you are . Let the process take its time,you may have to have a liver function test (I did ,milk thistle is the bees knees for cleaning ones liver) Get into the mindset ,that once you are granted firearms access,you may need to change your lifestyle to accommodate keeping them ! Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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