steve d Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 As above really, ive got a heavy barrelled Howa 243 stainless with a Wildcat Predator 8 mod on it, I thought it weighed a ton, but after weighing it with my Reuben Heatons its only 2lb heavier than my Sako P94. This leads me to the conclusion that its the nose heavy balance that makes it a chore to carry and i cant be bothered with a variation to change mod or rifle, so thought about using it without the mod. I know its sweeter to shoot with the mod but i only use it for roe,muntjac and fox. Its not as if im putting hundreds of rounds through it at a range? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69chris Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 iv fired my howa (heavy barrel, .308) a few times without mod whilst playing around with different ammo/scopes, and was honestly surprised how much of a calming effect a mod has for the odd shot i spose it'd be ok but as (with my rifle anyway) zero changes a tad with/without mod it isnt worth the hassle leaving it off to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 The only difference I found when shooting off a bipod, was loss of target momentarily due to recoil 'bounce' with no mod'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 My 25-06 is brutally loud with a mod, and as above, muzzle flip is more pronounced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil w Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 I use my .270 with a muzzle brake,obviously no difference In report. But makes a big difference In recoil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Mods are only a fairly recent newcomer on the shooting scene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Mods are only a fairly recent newcomer on the shooting scene. They are indeed. I spent most of my life shooting without one and can't stand the horrid things on my stalking rifles.Only ever use one on rim fires and the .17H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 I can also remember that too, it certainly tames quite a few calibres. I have a mod on all my riffles and wouldn't be without them nowadays. If u have a play without a mod, just remember to check the zero, usually different mod on/off Mibee try getting a better sling? Moray Outfitting (a great company to deal with) sell a Z aim? sling that is absolutely brilliant, has a sort off chest strap so rifle stays where its meant to be even when ur clambering over/throu windblow. I have it on my 308 which also feels quite a heavy gun and i tended to leave it in the cabinet a lot and would not buy another sling type now. Think it was only 30 quid and some of the best money i've spent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Bit like an ex smoker, I hated the thought of them on a centre fire, but now can't imagine shooting without one. Apart from shooting pigs, where a) the aren't allowed and b) all shots are offhand c) wearing electronic muffs is an advantage I don't use heavy mods and have my barrels chopped to accommodate so balance isn't really and issue, it is now a pleasure to shoot without the need for any hearing protection and reduced muzzle flip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 8x60s 375h&h and 404 Jeffery all with out mods the little rifles all have mods though 30 cal magnums and below. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Mods are only a fairly recent newcomer on the shooting scene. I've always used one, but relative to some veterans here I'm young to the game. I don't see the point of not using one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 My 25-06 is brutally loud with a mod, and as above, muzzle flip is more pronounced. Presumably you meant "without" ? My mate shoots a 25-06 and fired it without warning anyone under the cover at the BSRC at Bisley and upset more than a few people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 No mod on my 308 as it would get in the way of the sights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootgun Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 No mod on my .270 R8 and i'm loving it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Presumably you meant "without" ? My mate shoots a 25-06 and fired it without warning anyone under the cover at the BSRC at Bisley and upset more than a few people Yea, I meant without, I don't know why they are so loud! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 I used to use my 220 swift without a mod. That thing could bark !! Great fun though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remmy1100 Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 fired my 223 without mod one night at a fox as id left home without it ,dont know if it was the deafening blast that killed it or the 55 grain bt. defenately wont do it again ,strange really because most military weapons dont have mods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowdy Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 No mod on my ·444 and 9.3mm and 30-06 just a good pair of muffs Have a mod on my 308 though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 Allot more comfortable using one. Less muzzle flip, less noise, less disturbance to locals whilst foxing and above all less permanent damage to your hearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 It's still above 85dB and cumulative though😏 Still a dam site better with than without On a range I'll wear some protection, foxing taking 1 or 2 shots then I won't bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 Gun = ear defenders no matter what's on the barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benthejockey Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 I shot the 243 without a mod until I got it screw cut. Why oh why I never got it threaded 18 months prior I don't know. Muzzle flip, muzzle flash gone. Plus you can hear yourself think after a few shots. Also shooting off the roof of the truck doesn't burst the occupants ear drums with the deafening boom with a mod. I woke up he neighbours about 2am one day shooting a fox without the moderator on it. Wouldn't be without out one on any rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipdog Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) I have one on my 222! However if I bought a rifle purely for stalking or hunting in Africa I wouldn't consider putting a moderator on. For the main reason you spend so long carry compared to shooting!! However i also said I would never have a moderator on my 222 or 17 hmr and now I never shoot either without! Edited January 19, 2017 by zipdog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) If you get that whistling noise in your ear then that's a bit more gone for sure. I think my hearing was damaged more when I used to stand near the speakers at the local disco's, we used to think it was cool. Edited January 19, 2017 by Dougy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scobydog Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 Always use a Mod on my .270 but am thinking of giving it up on the .22 hornet, the .270 has a ase jet z utra and it works very well on it. The Hornet has a Lei 223 on it and personally I think it makes it look a bit too long and front heavy. S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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