poontang Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 So by a whopping majority the House of Commons have finally backed the governments bill on the triggering of article 50. The Ayes with 498 and the Noes with 114. Great result, unless of course you're Ken Clarke. There'll be tears in the safe spaces tonight!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 I just sat down and saw this. All the nay sayers shooting down May, I think she's playing a great game of chess, whilst those other idiots think they're playing checkers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 Tim Farron wants the decision on triggering Article 50 to be delayed until the EU Brexit deal is agreed. The EU won't negotiate any deal until Article 50 has been triggered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 So by a whopping majority the House of Commons have finally backed the governments bill on the triggering of article 50. The Ayes with 498 and the Noes with 114. Great result, unless of course you're Ken Clarke. There'll be tears in the safe spaces tonight!! Will the REMOANERS request another vote as they haven't got the result they wanted yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 A couple of interesting/amusing things have come to light following the vote. Despite having only a handful of other MPs to handle Tim Farron couldn't manage to wrangle them all to vote his way, two Lib Dem MPs chose to abstain. Diane Abbott also appears to have abstained, despite the fact she was telling other Labour MPs to toe the party line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 A couple of interesting/amusing things have come to light following the vote. Despite having only a handful of other MPs to handle Tim Farron couldn't manage to wrangle them all to vote his way, two Lib Dem MPs chose to abstain. Diane Abbott also appears to have abstained, despite the fact she was telling other Labour MPs to toe the party line. Thanks for that DM, I have been out shooting pheasants all day so missed the coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted February 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 Will the REMOANERS request another vote as they haven't got the result they wanted yet? They'll probably start a petition. Hilariously 3 of the Labour MP's who voted against the bill were whips who were supposed to be cajoling their fellow MP's to vote for it!! I think we're beginning to see the death throes of the Labour party. It's a great day to be a swivel eyed xenophobic bigot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 It's a great day to be a swivel eyed xenophobic bigot Indeed it is :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 im sure i heard jezzer say that if any of his labour mps vote against it they would lose there job ? or did i hear wrong . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 words are not enough. I wait to see the response of the BBC, The Independent, Guardian and Huffington Post ...plus of course MSN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del.gue Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 I heard an MP on the radio today...think it was newcastle under lyme...saying he would vote against the motion today even though his constituents voted to leave. The guy is a disgrace IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 I heard an MP on the radio today...think it was newcastle under lyme...saying he would vote against the motion today even though his constituents voted to leave. The guy is a disgrace IMO Post his details in his area, see what happens come next election! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 But has it not got to go through the house of lords now and they can amend it and send it back to the commons for another vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmer Fudd. Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) Diane Abbott also appears to have abstained, despite the fact she was telling other Labour MPs to toe the party line. She was probably 'lured' away by a tory MP with a couple of chicken legs and a Maccy Dees Edited February 1, 2017 by Elmer Fudd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 I heard an MP on the radio today...think it was newcastle under lyme...saying he would vote against the motion today even though his constituents voted to leave. The guy is a disgrace IMO Post his details in his area, see what happens come next election! Chris Bryant, Rhondda constituency. Best (and shortest) speech of the day has to go to Dr Julian Lewis, MP for New Forest East. “Thank you Mr Speaker, in my opinion, the people have decided and I'm going to vote accordingly,” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 The Labour MPs to go against their party's three-line whip - the strictest instruction to vote - are: Heidi Alexander (Lewisham East) Rushanara Ali (Bethnal Green and Bow) Graham Allen (Nottingham North) Rosena Allin-Khan (Tooting) Luciana Berger (Liverpool, Wavertree) Ben Bradshaw (Exeter) Kevin Brennan (Cardiff West) Lyn Brown (West Ham) Chris Bryant (Rhondda) Karen Buck (Westminster North) Dawn Butler (Brent Central) Ruth Cadbury (Brentford and Isleworth) Ann Clwyd (Cynon Valley) Ann Coffey (Stockport) Neil Coyle (Bermondsey and Old Southwark) Mary Creagh (Wakefield) Stella Creasy (Walthamstow) Thangam Debbonaire (Bristol West) Stephen Doughty (Cardiff South and Penarth) Jim Dowd (Lewisham West and Penge) Maria Eagle (Garston and Halewood) Louise Ellman (Liverpool, Riverside) Paul Farrelly (Newcastle-under-Lyme) Vicky Foxcroft (Lewisham, Deptford) Mike Gapes (Ilford South) Lilian Greenwood (Nottingham South) Helen Hayes (Dulwich and West Norwood) Meg Hillier (Hackney South and Shoreditch) Rupa Huq (Ealing Central and Acton) Peter Kyle (Hove) David Lammy (Tottenham) Rachael Maskell (York Central) Kerry McCarthy (Bristol East) Catherine McKinnell (Newcastle upon Tyne North) Madeleine Moon (Bridgend) Ian Murray (Edinburgh South) Stephen Pound (Ealing North) Virendra Sharma (Ealing Southall) Tulip Siddiq (Hampstead and Kilburn) Andy Slaughter (Hammersmith) Jeff Smith (Manchester Withington) Owen Smith (Pontypridd) Jo Stevens (Cardiff Central) Stephen Timms (East Ham) Catherine West (Hornsey and Wood Green) Alan Whitehead (Southampton Test) Daniel Zeichner (Cambridge) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 I don't think we should witch hunt those that voted against, unless they're going against the majority vote of their constituents. Personally, I would prefer my MPs to respect the view of the majority of the people they were directly elected to represent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 I don't think we should witch hunt those that voted against, unless they're going against the majority vote of their constituents. Personally, I would prefer my MPs to respect the view of the majority of the people they were directly elected to represent. As far as I am concerned only those MPs who voted against having a referendum have a valid reason for voting against the decision made by the British public. If they voted in favour of the referendum then they should be willing to accept it's result. Abstaining from the Article 50 vote would be acceptable if they do not wish to vote for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 Personally, I would prefer my MPs to respect the view of the majority of the people they were directly elected to represent. That's only the way it's supposed to be and why we are always let down in parliament? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 It's a great day to be a swivel eyed xenophobic bigot It certainly is! 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 The Labour MPs to go against their party's three-line whip - the strictest instruction to vote - are: Heidi Alexander (Lewisham East) Rushanara Ali (Bethnal Green and Bow) Graham Allen (Nottingham North) Rosena Allin-Khan (Tooting) Luciana Berger (Liverpool, Wavertree) Ben Bradshaw (Exeter) Kevin Brennan (Cardiff West) Lyn Brown (West Ham) Chris Bryant (Rhondda) Karen Buck (Westminster North) Dawn Butler (Brent Central) Ruth Cadbury (Brentford and Isleworth) Ann Clwyd (Cynon Valley) Ann Coffey (Stockport) Neil Coyle (Bermondsey and Old Southwark) Mary Creagh (Wakefield) Stella Creasy (Walthamstow) Thangam Debbonaire (Bristol West) Stephen Doughty (Cardiff South and Penarth) Jim Dowd (Lewisham West and Penge) Maria Eagle (Garston and Halewood) Louise Ellman (Liverpool, Riverside) Paul Farrelly (Newcastle-under-Lyme) Vicky Foxcroft (Lewisham, Deptford) Mike Gapes (Ilford South) Lilian Greenwood (Nottingham South) Helen Hayes (Dulwich and West Norwood) Meg Hillier (Hackney South and Shoreditch) Rupa Huq (Ealing Central and Acton) Peter Kyle (Hove) David Lammy (Tottenham) Rachael Maskell (York Central) Kerry McCarthy (Bristol East) Catherine McKinnell (Newcastle upon Tyne North) Madeleine Moon (Bridgend) Ian Murray (Edinburgh South) Stephen Pound (Ealing North) Virendra Sharma (Ealing Southall) Tulip Siddiq (Hampstead and Kilburn) Andy Slaughter (Hammersmith) Jeff Smith (Manchester Withington) Owen Smith (Pontypridd) Jo Stevens (Cardiff Central) Stephen Timms (East Ham) Catherine West (Hornsey and Wood Green) Alan Whitehead (Southampton Test) Daniel Zeichner (Cambridge) Thanks for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 As far as I am concerned only those MPs who voted against having a referendum have a valid reason for voting against the decision made by the British public. If they voted in favour of the referendum then they should be willing to accept it's result. Abstaining from the Article 50 vote would be acceptable if they do not wish to vote for it. +1 but then maybe asking a politician to do the right thing is too much of a ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 I'm surprised that the MPs from parts of South wales (Rhonnda,Cynon and Ponty), that I know well, voted the way they did because in my mind they represent areas where even the dogs voted to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garygreengrass Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 Let`s get things moving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yod dropper Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 Gina Miller must be ecstatic now that due process has been followed. I'm really happy for her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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