chrisjpainter Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 Good comment by Douglas Carswell. I disagree. That's a terrible analogy. Surely Douglas Carswell is hoping for a slightly better reward for the people's (potentially) blind faith than the Iraq invasion! I'm a remainer, and I'm still unconvinced that Brexit will be anything other than bad for the country. Having said that, the people have spoken and now we need to move forward with clarity and not constantly fighting in the grey areas - areas that Blair is so adept at creating. He is THE WORST PERSON to be heading up any public face of remaining! To be honest though, I'm not worried about him. It's just he's so narcissistic that he has no understanding of just how much he's loathed by everyone: universal, cross party dislike is a thing that's blessedly hard to escape! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0850 Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 I can't abide the "man" as you may have guessed. Lied to get us into a ridiculous war, his smarmy smile can't hide what he is. On another continent he would be sanctioned by the UN as a war criminal. The worst type of champagne socialist ever. He is judged by his deeds and cares not. I hope when he's truly judged he burns in hell for eternity. Hope that clears up any misunderstanding about my thoughts on the slime ball 😊 Agree 100% Blair drove this country into recession as well as illegal conflicts all for his own ego, the man should be on trial in the Hague for the suffering caused to our armed forces and Iraqis alike! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1440 Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 Npt resd any previouas posts. The man is a **** a utter total **** evety thing him and his cronies like Brown, Banks etc did was self indulgent toss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garygreengrass Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 People need to ask themselves why Blair doesn't want us to leave. Is he thinking of what is best for the country, or what is best for his career? +1 and his pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolk dumpling Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 When he was elected PM nobody realised then what they had signed up to and what a c***-up he would make of our economy (aided and abetted by that idiot Bush). I wish he would shut up and enjoy his ill-gotten millions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 (edited) When he was elected PM nobody realised then what they had signed up to and what a ****-up he would make of our economy (aided and abetted by that idiot Bush). I wish he would shut up and enjoy his ill-gotten millions.Your right there! No one knew what he and his party were going to do when the electorate voted them in.....and I don't recall the country being offered another election when him and Brown screwed everything up?......but he wants the country to have a second (or maybe more? Presumably until the remain camp win?) vote to overturn Brexit because "we didn't know what we were voting for when we voted out"What a despicable, self interested hypocrite he really is! Did I forget to mention.........deceitful, devious and patronising? Edited February 18, 2017 by panoma1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 Should these out of touch ex politicians be culled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 Your right there! No one knew what he and his party were going to do when the electorate voted them in.....and I don't recall the country being offered another election when him and Brown screwed everything up?......but he wants the country to have a second (or maybe more? Presumably until the remain camp win?) vote to overturn Brexit because "we didn't know what we were voting for when we voted out" What a despicable, self interested hypocrite he really is! Did I forget to mention.........deceitful, devious and patronising? +1Should these out of touch ex politicians be culled?And yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 I don't really think he thought it through. He's recieved a huge ( deserved ) amount of ridicule today. Lying, odious, slippery piece of excrement. Possibly? But maybe he is funded by someone equally odious from the shadows? "Teflon" does nothing without being paid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 Should these out of touch ex politicians be culled? Now we have Patrick Stewart mouthing off ... Saying to the European people how sorry he is for Brexit...... He definitely is on a different planet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 I'm sorry for Patrick Stewart - wooden actor and a has been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 Amazes me that he thinks himself important enough for anyone else to give a fig about his opinion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 Now we have Patrick Stewart mouthing off ... Saying to the European people how sorry he is for Brexit...... He definitely is on a different planet. Is that the Sir Patrick Stewart esteemed luvvie and resident of AMERICA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 Just watched the entire thing. It didn't make me at all angry. Quite the opposite in fact, gave me more than a few chuckles. I especially liked Tony complaining about the leave campaign using spin to make their message more positive for the public, oh the irony from the king of spin himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 Just watched the entire thing. It didn't make me at all angry. Quite the opposite in fact, gave me more than a few chuckles. I especially liked Tony complaining about the leave campaign using spin to make their message more positive for the public, oh the irony from the king of spin himself. That's the spirit. He's harmless now. Like Saruman in LOTR, everyone wondering if he's dangerous and Gandalf just looks up and says, 'nah, he's got no power anymore!' Just need a big walking talking tree to keep guard on him. The appetite for a second referendum ain't gonna come from him motivating us to do anything. I'm not even sure that's his direct aim. Spreading chaos in the Labour leadership, showing no confidence in Corbyn but no MP alternative to Corbyn, and making good ol' Tony B the best possible candidate to unite the party - that's his game. Trouble is, the party is pretty united in one way - no one wants him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 Agreed. If there were any two people guaranteed to pee off the public it would be Teflon Tony and the Ginger Beardy Branson. With those two on the Remoaner's side there is nothing to worry about. Interesting article today about the EU wanting to continue using the UK fishing grounds after Brexit as a condition to trade. The hopes of British fishermen that the UK can win its “waters back” after Brexit are expected to be dashed by the European parliament, despite the campaign promises of Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage, a leaked EU document reveals. MEPs have drafted seven provisions to be included in Britain’s “exit agreement”, including the stipulation that there will be “no increase to the UK’s share of fishing opportunities for jointly fished stocks [maintaining the existing quota distribution in UK and EU waters]”. “Around 85% of the current catch of the Danish fleet is in UK waters and 80% of the current catch of the fleet from Normandy. If we look at quota shares in Channel cod, the French have 84% and Britain has 9%. That sort of thing will pitch the fishermen against the car workers and the farmers against the bankers and before we know it.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 When he climbed into bed with Bush and manufactured a war over nothing no one batted an eye lid. I know the yanks need war to justify their "defence" budget and the insane amount of armed forces they have. England don't but the toad was convinced by Bush and the rest is tragic history. An ex PM with more blood on his hands than any other - how it sleeps at night I have no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 When he climbed into bed with Bush and manufactured a war over nothing no one batted an eye lid. I know the yanks need war to justify their "defence" budget and the insane amount of armed forces they have. England don't but the toad was convinced by Bush and the rest is tragic history. An ex PM with more blood on his hands than any other - how it sleeps at night I have no idea.+1The same as these MPs supporting remain and those still saying we should remain in the EU despite how the public have voted, it's supposed to be a democracy not dictatorship, alas it would appear it's only a democracy when we vote the 'right' way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 +1 The same as these MPs supporting remain and those still saying we should remain in the EU despite how the public have voted, it's supposed to be a democracy not dictatorship, alas it would appear it's only a democracy when we vote the 'right' way. And when you vote the 'wrong' way it is called Populist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalahari Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 Before that nice Mr. Blair gives us another vote on Brexit, can we have another vote on Welsh Devolution, the result was far closer than the EU one but that was fine. David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armsid Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 iceland left the EU in the early eighties and told them they had to lease their fishing grounds on icelands terms . so should we 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted February 19, 2017 Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 iceland left the EU in the early eighties and told them they had to lease their fishing grounds on icelands terms . so should we 1 Agreed, but not sure our lot have enough backbone to do what needs to be done, maybe need to grow one first? Too much luv for years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted February 19, 2017 Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 I can not for the life of me understand the issue with OUR waters, unless the EU pays for the use of them it's simple, they're our waters and they can't fish them, why would the EU expect anything different, we don't expect to walk into Russia and take their gas, or other countries oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted February 19, 2017 Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 I can not for the life of me understand the issue with OUR waters, unless the EU pays for the use of them it's simple, they're our waters and they can't fish them, why would the EU expect anything different, we don't expect to walk into Russia and take their gas, or other countries oil. They are trying to use it as a bargaining tool; The UK has to agree to EU trawlers getting free access to UK waters or the UK cannot access the Single Market. That is their strategy. It is largely drawn from individual countries vested interests and will clash with other demands from other countries. It is a laughable proposition when you think about it. "So Mr. Junckers; you are saying that if we don't allow you to fish our waters you won't be selling us £ billions worth of cars, white goods, vegetables, fruit, wine................... etc." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armsid Posted February 19, 2017 Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 i do not think for one minute our politicians have the guts for brinkmanship and at this moment in time we will see how good they are regarding vauxhall and they cannot blame brexit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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