Public services money

[Twistedsanity]

Funny, after telling us all that we have no money in the kitty for public services the pm has mysteriously found a billion pound behind the fridge to give to the Irish pseudo terrorists for their public services in return for propping up her government!

[millrace]

Irish you say.....if your going to comment get your facts correct and if you listened the northern ireland politions also guarnteed the "Whole" of the uk.(including you english) their locked pension and fuel allowance............

[Wb123]

The triple lock and fuel allowance will cost a lot more than one billion.

[panoma1]

I hear Labour the SNP and the Welsh are crying for their share too!......Why would a government give anything they didn't have to, to those that consistently oppose and try to undermine them?

 

We all know the DUP have got something the government want, but what have the others got that the government could possibly want? The DUP are merely supporting the political party the whole UK democratically elected (for good or bad!) to govern us!.....And seem to have negotiated a good deal for the people of NI to do so!......That's them doing their job!

 

For the opposition party's to try to bring the elected government to its knees and force another general election is not only undemocratic but could be interpreted as treason!

 

Bit like the remoaners plotting to derail Brexit!.........bunch of undemocratic traitors!

Edited June 26, 2017 by panoma1

[Twistedsanity]

Irish you say.....if your going to comment get your facts correct and if you listened the northern ireland politions also guarnteed the "Whole" of the uk.(including you english) their locked pension and fuel allowance............

Whatever way you paint it the pm arrogantly called an election that wasn't needed, lost all the power then spent a Billion pounds of YOUR tax buying the power back, even if you love the Tories you have to see what a farce this woman is!

[panoma1]

Whatever way you paint it the pm arrogantly called an election that wasn't needed, lost all the power then spent a Billion pounds of YOUR tax buying the power back, even if you love the Tories you have to see what a farce this woman is!

 

And the alternative is?

[Gordon R]

The Tories could have given even more to Scotland. The Irish are receiving the same help that Scotland has enjoyed for years. It might not be totally fair to the English and Welsh, but just what do Labour expect the Tories to do? Roll over and let the idiots take over the asylum.

 

Diane Abbott says that the £1 billion should be split equally - Northern Ireland 35%, England 35%, Wales 35% and Scotland 35%. Who could argue?

Edited June 26, 2017 by Gordon R

[ph5172]

I dont profess to know a lot about NI but what i have read they were the poor partner in regards to share compared to Wales and Scotland, now they have a decent hand to play they are rightly playing it to their full advantage whilst negotiating a better deal (depending on what side of the fence you sit) in regard to policies that directly effect the whole UK.

 

It would have been exactly the same hand SNP would have played if they were talking to Corbyn, but i doubt they would have been so reserved with policies that effect the UK as a whole

Edited June 26, 2017 by ph5172

[Gordon R]

Well said.

[ordnance]

Irish pseudo terrorists for their public services in return for propping up her government!

 

Could you expand on that, do you know what pseudo terrorists are. who are nationalists. ? Its a good for all the UK the ones shouting the loudest are Welsh and Scottish nationalists that want to brake up the UK.

Edited June 26, 2017 by ordnance

[Gordon R]

Whatever way you paint it the pm arrogantly called an election that wasn't needed,

 

 

It might have been a poor decision, but Labour kept demanding an election. They said Theresa May had not been elected as the Prime Minister - obviously unlike Labour Prime Ministers who had inherited the job. If it wasn't needed, just why did they demand it?

 

They demanded it because they thought they had a chance to win, but didn't.

 

They are just a bunch of moaning losers.

Edited June 26, 2017 by Gordon R

[Sha Bu Le]

The Tories could have given even more to Scotland. The Irish are receiving the same help that Scotland has enjoyed for years. It might not be totally fair to the English and Welsh, but just what do Labour expect the Tories to do? Roll over and let the idiots take over the asylum.

 

Diane Abbott says that the £1 billion should be split equally - Northern Ireland 35%, England 35%, Wales 35% and Scotland 35%. Who could argue?

 

Gordon I'm thinking that this bit is down to your cynical (at times) sense of humour, still justly deserved. Annnnnd if its not then I would not be surprised at the result of D.A's attempt at hard sums. DA can stand for whoever or whatever you wish, ducks and dogs bums come to mind, sure you lot being the creative bunch you are can come up with much better..............answers on a post card.

[Dr D]

Funny, after telling us all that we have no money in the kitty for public services the pm has mysteriously found a billion pound behind the fridge to give to the Irish pseudo terrorists for their public services in return for propping up her government!

I think the DUP might take some offences at your description of them being 'Irish' and I don't think 'pseudo terrorist's' would have negotiated a commitment to retaining 2 percent GDP on defence spending, plus signed up to supporting the government in national security legislation and the extension of the armed forces covenant to Northern Ireland. All of which they appear to have done today. Then there is the one billion. That's what come of twenty years experience of almost constant negotiating.

[Wb123]

As much as i may not like the DUP or most of their policies I do admire the work they have done for their constituents here. (I voted DUP to shore up the conservatives, but SDLP and SF for Stormont).

 

Now how much of that billion will be for heating, policing gay cake parades, and banning smiling on Sundays.

[iano]

Funny, after telling us all that we have no money in the kitty for public services the pm has mysteriously found a billion pound behind the fridge to give to the Irish pseudo terrorists for their public services in return for propping up her government!

 

Those are your loonies, nothing to do with us

[ordnance]

Now how much of that billion will be for heating, policing gay cake parades, and banning smiling on Sundays.

 

It will be going to support all the people in Northern Ireland and none of the above.

 

 

Edited June 26, 2017 by ordnance

[Gordon R]

Sha Bu Le - I was slightly sarcastic about Diane Abbott's figures. That said she is thick enough to have said it herself.

ordnance - thanks for the figures - look fine to me.

[Flashman]

Funny, after telling us all that we have no money in the kitty for public services the pm has mysteriously found a billion pound behind the fridge to give to the Irish pseudo terrorists for their public services in return for propping up her government!

 

Sush - Corbyn & co. lost the election, so be a good girl and be quiet.

 

A £100Bn bung would be cheap at twice the price to keep the proper terrorist supporterss out of office.

[inthedark]

 

 

 

A £100Bn bung would be cheap at twice the price to keep the proper terrorist supporterss out of office.

 

That's a hard point to argue against

[Vince Green]

I dont profess to know a lot about NI but what i have read they were the poor partner in regards to share compared to Wales and Scotland, now they have a decent hand to play they are rightly playing it to their full advantage whilst negotiating a better deal (depending on what side of the fence you sit) in regard to policies that directly effect the whole UK.

 

It would have been exactly the same hand SNP would have played if they were talking to Corbyn, but i doubt they would have been so reserved with policies that effect the UK as a whole

I don't know if that's true about Wales, they appear to be the poor relation in all this. Wales is not as vocal as Scotland or as strategic as NI

[Michael Scotland]

A 100bl bung as you put it should have been given to the nurses and fireman police that keep us all safe if things don't change they stay as they are by the look of Teresa Mays eyes she will be needing a nurse I give her 6 months and then in the next vote the youth of today will give us our NHS back with a labour vote

[Gordon R]

then in the next vote the youth of today will give us our NHS back with a labour vote

 

 

That is assuming all the youth of today are as stupid as Diane Abbott.

 

Is there a Labour supporter who genuinely thinks that Corbyn would carry out his election pledges? If anyone believes him, I feel truly sorry for them.

 

Corbynites have a tendency to forget that most cuts were started by Labour - carried on by the Tories, it has to be said. Corbynites loudly proclaim that was the Labour of old - under Tony Blair - as if that excuses everything.

[JohnfromUK]

 

 

Is there a Labour supporter who genuinely thinks that Corbyn would carry out his election pledges? I

Yes, I think they do; for some reason that I don't understand Corbyn has managed to be thought as 'genuine and honest'. Fact is ALL politicians are devious liars - and Corbyn is no better or worse than any of the others. Where he is different is that the promises he has made are clever and what people want. He has no intention of keeping them, but I don't believe many of the Tory/Brexit/Remain/LibDem/Scot Nat intend to keep their election promises either.

 

What I do know is there is a MASSIVE deficit equivalent to £26,000 for every person in the UK - the interest on which is about the same size as the whole defence budget - and the deficit is still going up - and when interest rates rise we will be really hard up.

 

No politician mentions this. What we really need to do is to reduce the deficit - and NO party is genuinely doing that and none has since Mrs Thatcher.

Edited June 29, 2017 by JohnfromUK

[Gordon R]

Fact is ALL politicians are devious liars - and Corbyn is no better or worse than any of the others.

 

 

There, I have to draw a line. Corbyn is a supporter of terrorist organisations. He can lie (I have never met the IRA) or wriggle as much as he wants, but he is what he is. How people could ever trust him, with anything, but the affections of Diane Abbott, is beyond me.

 

He reminds me of a Peter Sellers film - Being There - given to simple sayings, but people wanted to believe they meant something more meaningful. In common with the Peter Sellers' role - there isn't a lot of intelligence between Corbyn's ears.

[JohnfromUK]

 

In common with the Peter Sellers' role - there isn't a lot of intelligence between Corbyn's ears.

There I have to (respectfully) disagree. I think he (or at least possibly those pulling his string) has been clever and calculating and ruthlessly exploited every opportunity;

• He came to lead his party against all the odds
• He has not only survived a leadership challenge, but come out of it stronger
• He was predicted to loose massively in the election - but in fact got a remarkably good result

I happen to think he is a very dangerous, calculating, ruthless and manipulative person.

 

As to those who back him - he has promised them all what they wanted (free university, more benefits, abolish trades union regulations, better minimum wage, more money on all public services etc.) What he has failed to do and that no one seems to pick up on - is that he has totally failed to explain how he will raise the funds for this.

 

It is a bit like the lottery - millions of people pay their £2, or buy a scratch card - thinking it will make them rich. Yes there is a VERY VERY small chance that it will, but for most, it is money down the drain - and in many peoples cases, money they complain they haven't got. And yet WE ALL really know that the chances of winning are very very small - all their friends do the same - but none of them win either - but we ignore all the widely known facts in the 'hope' of a big win.