ditchman Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 picked up the tatty HW77..today...put my scope on to see how it felt... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 At last! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 altho' a bit tatty...the chequering is still undamaged....but the varnish is cracking off.....the gunsmith made moderator has rusted on...and there are flecks of rust all onj the surface everywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 i have looked all over the net to see if this is a factory made mod....it appears not....also the 77 is shooting at the legal limit and is very quiet.....the spring is not standard...and i think it has an extended top hat...which leads me to believe it has been turned a long while ago and someone hyas prent a fair bit of money on it.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 So then, only a cosmetic thread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 all the original bits are still with it...butt pad...(good nick) pistol grip end cap....but the varnish is shoddy all over....dead looking..... took me over an hour to get the moderator off...rusted and cacked on......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 eventually it came off ughh !................the moderator design had been made to fit on the 77 without and drilling cutting screwing to the 77...so it can be removed and returned to standard............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VULTURE Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Will watch this thread closely,got a couple of 77's that need tidying up. Vulture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 got it all clean.....bit the bullet and used a bit of very fine wet and dry with petrol to get the rust off......not fussed with the loss of bluing ....as i know all the internals are top job....so until i try it and zero it i wont be taking this one apart ...............yet .! so i put it all back together........it ...the whole gun is very well made and finished off ...unlike the old BSA's....it is heavy...."am i bovered"..."naaww"... so when i get some time i will zero it and post up the results.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmytree Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 What gets my goat is how anyone can let a rifle get in that state in the first place! When it was new that was an expensive bit of kit, why not look after it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Maybe teaching grannie to suck eggs.......but have you tried cabinet makers 0000 wirewool dipped in oil? It should remove those surface rust scabs without ruining the blueing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Maybe teaching grannie to suck eggs.......but have you tried cabinet makers 0000 wirewool dipped in oil? It should remove those surface rust scabs without ruining the blueing! first thing i tried.....the trouble was the rust had "bubbled" and was far to hard to take off with wire wool......so i had to flat it off with the emery paper and petrol............if this shoots as well as i hope...i will get it reblued....most of my guns are all looking faded...the colour has gone etc....but they all function 100%...and i always wipe them down with a oily rag from a jam jar................................ ,.......i lent out my webley 410 to someone just after it had a London blue done on it after 45years of use...................it came back with a scratch from some barbed wire on it.........i didnt say anything .....i was pig sick about it...thats why i like oiled stocks....they can take the stick and still look good.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisdom Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 This is going to be a great thread especially with your attention to detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 This is going to be a great thread especially with your attention to detail. im no gunsmith and that is a fact....most people on here regards guns they have forgotton more than i will ever know...........i just like "things " to function as they should do....all i do is remove burrs ...hone ...polish...clean....use the right lube....make little adjustments....butcher bits of wood................... as i have said before im no different from any of you......its just that ive have years of fiddling about............a tinkerer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigman Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Nice 77 is she the 25mm piston model? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Looking forward to seeing the finished item. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pork chop Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Very nearly bought one today ,just to far away and not much time on my hands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Nice 77 is she the 25mm piston model? i will have to check the serial number first ...but it is an early one so it should be the 25mm and not the newer 26mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Great to see your projects back on Simon. Tell you what it aint half made a mess of that bit of hardox . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSpredder Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Good progress already, will look splendid when finished. I really admire the old HW models, though they are quite heavy. Owned a .22cal HW80 for rabbit control, and had to set a bag limit of five, otherwise the weight of carcases plus air rifle became too much to haul across the hills. (“Very flat, Norfolk”, so hills might not be a problem for ditchman). Mine had the 20” barrel and a P-H silencer, which I removed because it made the whole outfit rather unwieldy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Good buoy ditchy, that'll keep you on the straight and narrow. Bloody good read so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandsjohn Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 I really hope this shoots for you, what a difference you've made to the metal work already. Looking forward to seeing it finished and the neglect gone, good job.john Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 sooooo out with the 77 to test fire before i start stripping it.............before i took it out i pulled thro' a few jags soaked in petrol followed by some fine wire wool twice....there was some muck come out... off to the field ...slapped up a target at 15m and fired aimlessly at it to prepare the barrell and to adjust the scope....got it near enough after 10 shots.. the out with a fresh target paper...black spot as focuss point...today was not about finding the 2 zeros but about finding if it can group 7 shots with 16gn AA....group about size of a 2pence coin......thought i would then try a lighter pellet so changed to Superdome 14.5 gn...6 shots...a tighter group..it likes the lighter pellet and the barrell was getting better.... "ah heck"...put it out to 30m................you can see fall of shot and where i adjusted MOA...then 3...4...5...6..it started to print...it pulled a group out smaller than a 5pence coin.....well chuffed... and the target was moving a bit in the strong wind..... conclusion heavy gun..(truck gun) very quiet with this heavy mod' on well balanced small recoil very forgiving on how you hold it prefere's lighter pellet bloody accurate for a 30 odd years old springer i will be able to tighten the groups even more ...defo' will be easy to make 1 hole groups very very impressed so far.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 so meanwhile back at the ranch................metal work off..... "and errr strippping we will go".... will post up as and when............ watch this space Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 Great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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