davewh100 Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 any of you fishing lads noticed more cormorants this year i had an email from natural england and the angling trust saying they normally issue 3'000 to be shot by license, seems there as been 33'000 breeding pairs from the Baltic down to Denmark and are trying to get the number raised to 6'000, definitely noticed an increase on our waters these can be shot from 1st sep to 15th April by license only i have 10 on mine and 10 goosander Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 Loads of the blighters on the lakes in Milton Keynes-saw 7 sitting on a floating pallet on one small lake-reckon one cartridge would have sunk them. Cannot understand why nothing seems to be doing to remove them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 6000 is not enough! I am of the opinion cormorant should be on open licence inland! But NE are too influenced by (scared of!) the anti gun/shooting protectionists, for it to ever happen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewh100 Posted October 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 I've shot two so far at this rate I will need to go back to natural england and ask for more to be added on my licence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewh100 Posted October 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 think your right panoma 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 I have one visiting my pond which hasn't happened before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewh100 Posted October 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 be careful 39DS or it will empty it the first one i shot mid September was that full of fish couldn't even fly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 Overpopulation on Tweed thats for sure. Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 be careful 39DS or it will empty it the first one i shot mid September was that full of fish couldn't even fly I often hear they will empty a pond of fish (as will herons) but it isn't empty yet after years of herons. Next door have a pond with gold fish in, hasn't been emptied either. Maybe I should add that what I am calling a pond is probably what a lot would call a lake. Certainly seen carp "lakes" smaller anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 Always surprised me just how many I see along the Thames in my part of the world! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberFowl Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 See plenty up here on the estuary I shoot. Big groups of them this season, numbers growing every year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveboy Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 I saw one on the canal for the first time yesterday, It went underwater then came up 10 seconds later 50m further up. They can certainly shift under water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrix's rifle Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 I often hear they will empty a pond of fish (as will herons) but it isn't empty yet after years of herons. Next door have a pond with gold fish in, hasn't been emptied either. Maybe I should add that what I am calling a pond is probably what a lot would call a lake. Certainly seen carp "lakes" smaller anyway. Herons will empty them over a space of time, cormorants will empty it in one sitting. They fill them selves that full as already has been said they either can't fly or need a massive run up to take off. Coming from an ex trout farmer with a cormorant problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewh100 Posted October 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 yeah there's know way a fish will get away if grabbed, never seen a beak like it curved at the end and powerful they reckon a full grown cormorant can do 30lb a fish a day that's a lot of money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 Loads of them in the north east, noticed them flying like skiens of geese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberFowl Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 Loads of them in the north east, noticed them flying like skiens of geese. Same up here, v formation 15+ strong. I have half raised the gun a few times in the dull hours of a morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 The most cormorants I have seen at one time was at Holkham in Norfolk last years and I counted well over 100 flying in 'V' formation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Loads of them in the north east, noticed them flying like skiens of geese. Same in Lancashire, there were 10 plus flying over me a few weeks back and I thought they were geese at first given the numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxshooter69 Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 any of you fishing lads noticed more cormorants this year i had an email from natural england and the angling trust saying they normally issue 3'000 to be shot by license, seems there as been 33'000 breeding pairs from the Baltic down to Denmark and are trying to get the number raised to 6'000, definitely noticed an increase on our waters these can be shot from 1st sep to 15th April by license only i have 10 on mine and 10 goosander Are there strict circumstances regarding the issue of licences before you can control them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Whilst sitting in our pigeon hide last year, my pal and I counted approximately 900 to 1000 fly over in groups of 20 to 30 during a three hour period. They were flying across the Thames estuary from Essex towards Westbere lakes. Another guy with several flight ponds near said lakes has a licence to cull just 4. How any form of control can be achieved at the low level of licences issued to cull, I'll never know. OB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Same up here, v formation 15+ strong. I have half raised the gun a few times in the dull hours of a morning. Same just happened on this mornings flight on our marsh calling the geese in and hundreds came ove but a bit high or wide then noticed two coming in lower. Mate stood ready to shoot and they flared and saw they were cormorants, first time I’ve seen them flying among skiens of geese. In the half light they do look a lot like geese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewh100 Posted October 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 shot one more this morning last two must be this years due to size, yeah you must apply to natural england for the license took me nearly a year to get it they like you to try other methods first starting pistol, lines on the waters also you must have proof with picks on the waters and number of birds, we still have to fill in forms of siteings bit of a pain this is the conditions of the license, four licence were not issued for this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Know of a pool here with at least 75 resident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewh100 Posted October 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Carnt be any fish left in there then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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