BaikalsRule90 Posted December 16, 2017 Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 Hi guys I shoot sporting with an mk38 trap with 3/4 and full choke. I dont really struggle with closer targets but would it be worth it getting it opened up a bit? To say like half and half? Just thinking if im slightly off i might just crack the target in half etc. On the other hand i like seeing where ive broke a target at range, im worried with half choke the target will just break the first time and then miss even though the same forward allowance/line ect...... is applied. Does anyone else shoot competitions with this combination? Or should i just stick to what im confident with? Ive never had much faith in open chokes. Nor do i want multichokes as its more to think about. Cheers any help appreciated. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 16, 2017 Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 That would be a great way to reduce the guns value! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted December 16, 2017 Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 (edited) Your last paragraph about sums it up. And there too is your answer. If your shooting ok with it leave it be. Because if you start messing with it , your then be thinking hmmm did I miss that cos my chokes are not tight enough. Just concentrate on your shooting and stop doubting yourself. Oh and stop being a pussy. There’s nothing you can’t do with that combination... myself as a competitive trap shooter I to use a similar choke combination as you do. Today after a practice ABT session with a couple of mates we went for a couple of rounds of Skeet with the Trap guns for a bit of a giggle. all scores were 22/23/24 .with some serious balls of dust ? in the picture from left to right beretta 692 fixed choke 3/4 + full prazzi high tec fixed choke 3/4 + full beretta DT 11 trap fixed choke 3/4 + full ( My comp gun ) https://www.dropbox.com/s/a13vo7hzhig069m/Photo 16-12-2017%2C 11 20 05.jpg?dl=0 Edited December 16, 2017 by stevo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1440 Posted December 16, 2017 Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 Leave it as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me matt Posted December 16, 2017 Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 (edited) 33 minutes ago, stevo said: Your last paragraph about sums it up. And there too is your answer. If your shooting ok with it leave it be. Because if you start messing with your then be thinking hmmm did I miss that cos my chokes are not tight enough. Just concentrate on your shooting and stop doubting yourself. Oh and stop being a pussy. There’s nothing you can’t do with that combination. Spot on advice. Nothing wrong with tight chokes, if it works for you - stick with it. Edited December 16, 2017 by Me matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted December 16, 2017 Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 (edited) A mate shoots 1/2 and 1/2 and there is no sporting target that he cannot smoke. You never need any more. He has a 86 average on sporting Edited December 16, 2017 by bornfree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buze Posted December 16, 2017 Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 I use to shoot full/full (well, even extra full, technically) and I found the only targets I was struggling with were rabbits. I there was a bump, I'd miss. It used to be my least favourite target. Otherwise, I could shoot full/full all day, I even did my very first 25 at skeet with my full/full trap gun... Now I shoot 3/4 for training, and 1/2 if the score matters. Oh and 1/4 1/4 on that farm shoot nearby where you could break the clays by whacking them with the end of the gun ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaikalsRule90 Posted December 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 Cheers for the advice, will leave it then! Just had a niggling thought was all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 Beg steal or borrow a gun choked skeet/1/4 or even cyl/skeet and see how you go - pretty sure you will be surprised how far these combinations will break clays at - unlike shooting to kill you are only really need to chip the clay to score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 (edited) If it ain't broke then don't fix it. The one joy of being able to change chokes is you can fiddle around until you find the one that suits the cartridge you use, then leave it alone. OK, not clays shooting but I ran some pattern tests on my 410 with initially Fiocchi 3 inch using full/full, then I had to load some fibres for use on one shoot and found they threw tighter patterns than the Fiocchis so changed to the #2 choke tubes and have now shot them for five or six days and can honestly say have not noticed any difference. If your hitting your share of clays then leave the gun as is and just try to improve your performance. Edited December 21, 2017 by Walker570 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uilleachan Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 Last year I was tackling sporting clays skeet and quarter, changed this year to quarter and half and noticed a marked improvement on longer birds. On the croft we can recover missed clays to use again as the ground tends to be soft as it's covered in soft rush which undoubtedly helps with landing survival. When picking thrown clays it's interesting to note that very many have been chipped but haven't broken, even found one whole with three holes in it. For christmas I've bought myself another half choke and plan to start shooting half and half. Reasoning is; I can hit everything I'm hitting with the quarter with the half. I like buze's idea of using 3/4 for practice, so once I've settled into half & half I'll make a point of trying a few practice rounds half & 3/4 and see how I get on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 I looked at the photo and all I saw was one gun sat between a couple of trenching spades nice wood on that DT11 leave your gun alone and use smaller shot like Skeet nines for close targets if your bothered by cracking them. You should get better breaks with the small shot. Also go for a piston wad in plastic or fiber wad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 (edited) I haven’t this problem as I have no idea what chokes my gun has ?? Edited December 22, 2017 by washerboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpler1991 Posted December 24, 2017 Report Share Posted December 24, 2017 Leave it b they throw great pattern and what you gain in spread you loose in shot string Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingman Posted December 24, 2017 Report Share Posted December 24, 2017 On 21/12/2017 at 14:29, figgy said: I looked at the photo and all I saw was one gun sat between a couple of trenching spades nice wood on that DT11 leave your gun alone and use smaller shot like Skeet nines for close targets if your bothered by cracking them. You should get better breaks with the small shot. Also go for a piston wad in plastic or fiber wad Just out of curiosity have you got any examples of carts brands that have piston wads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted December 24, 2017 Report Share Posted December 24, 2017 Hull pro piston are readily available and another make with a bior wad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingman Posted December 25, 2017 Report Share Posted December 25, 2017 Cheers figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salopian Posted December 26, 2017 Report Share Posted December 26, 2017 "Just out of curiosity have you got any examples of carts brands that have piston wads?" Fiocchii are the preferred brand for piston wads . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted December 26, 2017 Report Share Posted December 26, 2017 Similar gun same chokes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 On 24/12/2017 at 22:16, Crumpler1991 said: Leave it b they throw great pattern and what you gain in spread you loose in shot string A longer shot string is a good thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 On 24/12/2017 at 22:16, Crumpler1991 said: Leave it b they throw great pattern and what you gain in spread you loose in shot string Skeet or cyclinder chokes produce the longest shot string as more pellets are open to wind resistance. Thight chokes 3/4 & full like the op produce the shortest shot strings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sishyplops Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 Just vary your carts from 7.5-9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Elvis Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) If you are shooting well leave it alone, I shoot 3/4 and 3/4 on clays and extra full on live pigeons, I get told its all in my head but my score goes down if my chokes do!! Mungler shoots 3/8 and 3/8 and smashes everything even at range!!! I shot an 88 ex 96 on sunday and even hit ALL the rabbits!!! (for a change), so Im happy with 3/4 and 3/4!! I will go up to full and full at the masters for rangey stuff Edited January 26, 2018 by Evil Elvis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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