Gerry78 Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 Been looking at a second hand near new CZ American in 22/250 nice order throughout and the rifling perfect i would only be shooting the odd fox Wanted to ask forum what they think of this foxing round i used to shoot 223 years back Heard good and bad opinions on the 22/250 any info would be helpful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedark Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 It's too much gun for foxing, as it shoots through most of the time. Assuming you're shooting within responsible ranges, .223 is more than capable enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 The only thing that might be a problem is the availability of ammunition in your area. Its a less popular calibre than .223, that's about all really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 48 minutes ago, Gerry78 said: Been looking at a second hand near new CZ American in 22/250 nice order throughout and the rifling perfect i would only be shooting the odd fox Wanted to ask forum what they think of this foxing round i used to shoot 223 years back Heard good and bad opinions on the 22/250 any info would be helpful An excellent calibre for Fox, especially when using V max bullets. Quite a few calibre bullets have been known to 'shoot through a fox'.It's never too much of a gun in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClemFandango Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) 49 minutes ago, inthedark said: It's too much gun for foxing, as it shoots through most of the time. Assuming you're shooting within responsible ranges, .223 is more than capable enough what a load of utter ****! Too much gun as it shoots through? ********! I bet you won't hear many foxes complain they have been shot through. I have shot hundreds of foxes with .30-06 they were all shot through as well. oddly they were all dead which I assume is the aim? Edited February 16, 2018 by ClemFandango Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedark Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 13 minutes ago, ClemFandango said: what a load of utter ****! Too much gun as it shoots through? ********! I bet you won't hear many foxes complain they have been shot through. I have shot hundreds of foxes with .30-06 they were all shot through as well. oddly they were all dead which I assume is the aim? That's a bit harsh buddy. If a bullet goes straight through a target it's still carrying the energy that should be dumped into the target to kill it, i.e. , too much gun. Assuming you're a stalker (.30-06) and shoot the odd fox as it pops up, no big deal, as a good friend of mine says, there's only one degree of deadness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClemFandango Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 Just now, inthedark said: That's a bit harsh buddy. If a bullet goes straight through a target it's still carrying the energy that should be dumped into the target to kill it, i.e. , too much gun. Assuming you're a stalker (.30-06) and shoot the odd fox as it pops up, no big deal, as a good friend of mine says, there's only one degree of deadness I do a bit if stalking, I was a keeper for a couple of years and controlled foxes on a pig unit. I have shot hundreds of them, at the time I had .30-06 so I used that. I can't recall ever shooting one where the bullet didn't exit and they were all dead. The whole argument about bullets "dumping their energy" if they don't exit is a non starter for me. I also, now am lucky enough to shoot quite a few lowland reds, still with .30-06 and the bullet still exits and guess what they are still dead. You are right. Dead is dead is dead, hole in one side or hole in two. doesnt matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedark Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 17 minutes ago, ClemFandango said: I do a bit if stalking, I was a keeper for a couple of years and controlled foxes on a pig unit. I have shot hundreds of them, at the time I had .30-06 so I used that. I can't recall ever shooting one where the bullet didn't exit and they were all dead. The whole argument about bullets "dumping their energy" if they don't exit is a non starter for me. I also, now am lucky enough to shoot quite a few lowland reds, still with .30-06 and the bullet still exits and guess what they are still dead. You are right. Dead is dead is dead, hole in one side or hole in two. doesnt matter. Let me just clear something up here. The OP asked for opinions on the .22/250 as a foxing round. I've owned one and used it against fox, and I've given my opinion on it which he can consider or not as he sees fit. He hasn't asked for your opinion of my opinion, and if you want to shoot them with a artillery piece, knock yourself out, it matters not to either me or the spirit of the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertt Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) The only bullet I ever used that didn't exit on a broadside fox was a Hornady SX 70g in a 6PPC. Which was desirable as the pelts were being sold. As far as I can remember the 22/250 would exit except on facing shots. But in answer to your question the 22/250 is a superb 1/2 MOA fox calibre. Edited February 16, 2018 by Robertt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haynes Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) So if a 22250 is too much gun. Then why are so many people using light weight 243's. I use the hornady 55grn vmax in 22250 as does a mate. An excellent fast expanding round. The soft point type rounds may punch through more but still killing the fox along it's journey. If the guns accurate then buy it. it' an excellent fox calibre, thousands of keepers can't be wrong. Edited February 16, 2018 by haynes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foosa Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Gerry78 said: Been looking at a second hand near new CZ American in 22/250 nice order throughout and the rifling perfect i would only be shooting the odd fox Wanted to ask forum what they think of this foxing round i used to shoot 223 years back Heard good and bad opinions on the 22/250 any info would be helpful Yep, 22-250 is certainly a fine foxing round, as is the 223, 222 and a whole load of other calibres and will get the job done. I would guess 223 and 22-250 Being the most popular choice of fox dispatcher, but have never understood under what circumstanes one will kill a fox and the other wouldn't? I use 223, 204 or 243 for fox depending how i feel when i open the cabinet which one i take and can honestly say i've never been on a fox and wished I'd picked one of the others because this one ain' up to it! If YOU want a 22-250 then go for it, learn how it shoots and enjoy. Oh yeah, assume every bullet you fire regardless of calibre will pass through your target, if it doesn't but kills the fox, great, if it does pass through and kills the fox, great job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 22-250 is a phenominal round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 1 hour ago, inthedark said: That's a bit harsh buddy. If a bullet goes straight through a target it's still carrying the energy that should be dumped into the target to kill it, i.e. , too much gun. Assuming you're a stalker (.30-06) and shoot the odd fox as it pops up, no big deal, as a good friend of mine says, there's only one degree of deadness I am also of the opinion that it is not too much gun. When I used one, a big 6" exit wound would show that plenty of energy was "put into" the fox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 Superb fox round,found 50gr heads worked best,lot of 55gr stuff seem harder ,perhaps designed for deer work.Good for those too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertt Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 We'll have to agree to disagree on that one matone. Shot hundreds of foxes 50g through to 60g and did not notice any noticeable difference in damage. Settled on 55g as had guaranteed supply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 Yep,we shall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClemFandango Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 2 hours ago, inthedark said: Let me just clear something up here. The OP asked for opinions on the .22/250 as a foxing round. I've owned one and used it against fox, and I've given my opinion on it which he can consider or not as he sees fit. He hasn't asked for your opinion of my opinion, and if you want to shoot them with a artillery piece, knock yourself out, it matters not to either me or the spirit of the thread. thanks for clearing that up. I don't really care. The first line of your answer was totally factually inaccurate. .22/250 is NOT too much gun and on that basis he should not be dissuaded from purchasing one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedark Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 1 minute ago, ClemFandango said: thanks for clearing that up. I don't really care. The first line of your answer was totally factually inaccurate. .22/250 is NOT too much gun and on that basis he should not be dissuaded from purchasing one. Like I said, that's my opinion and as such it's accurate. If you've ever owned a .22/250, give the OP your opinion on it as a foxing rifle, if you haven't, you're not really qualified to be posting on this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev1gun Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 I was using mine last night to very good effect, Yes it does pass through but it's normally a 6 inch hole on the exit side, but i would sooner see that, than having one run off wounded for not using "enough gun" I was out one night with my .17HMr on Rabbits and Mr Fox popped up he was only about 80 yards drilled him with an engine room shot and he ran off into the woods, i found him after about 15 mins, but i've never had that happen with the 22.250. ihave used my .243 in the past with 58grain Vmax again they don't run but they are very messy to pick up afterwards. Shoot what you think does the Job, i know quite a lot of Gamekeepers and most of them use .22.250 or .223 the .22.250 is excellent on a Drone pro 10 on the top if set up correctly you can shoot out to 285 yard with no hold over and that distance covers most work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel73 Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 I’ve used a 22/250 for 30 years on foxes and roe (in Scotland) I use 50grain rounds for foxes and 55grain rounds for roe. It is a very good choice for what you are looking to use it for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 22.250 far too much gun for Fox. ? 22.250 passes straight through ? The 22.250 is a brilliant Varmint cartridge, that's what it was designed for, shooting Varmint and efficiently at that. Too much gun !!!!!! You sound like the local FEO (That's "firearms enquiry officer" ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClemFandango Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) .22/250 is a great foxing calibre. That's my opinion. Edited February 16, 2018 by ClemFandango Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeandmax87 Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 I use 40gr Vmax in mine over IMR3031 going 4000+ fps with a yukon photon NV ontop I have never had a runner with it, its absolutely savage on foxes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 I use one slightly smaller a 223 and one slightly larger a 243 and both work well. But the 223 is far quieter. You pays your money and makes your choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry78 Posted February 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 Thanx forum i knew when i posted id probably open up a massive debate I just wanted to ask the guys who SHOOT FOXES with a 22/250 what there opinions are regards range /type of bullets etc general opinion of the actual calibre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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