tonyshooter Posted September 15, 2018 Report Share Posted September 15, 2018 I have just been given a 12ga 3" Mag Hatsan escort semi auto shotgun and I am occasionally experiencing it not cycling the rounds. I am using 32g cartridges. An empty is not getting fully ejected. The fired cartridge remains part ejected / lodged in the action at 90 degrees to the barrel. Any help in rectifying this would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted September 15, 2018 Report Share Posted September 15, 2018 The earlier ones were renowned for this problem . I don’t know the answer how to fix it but I am sure somebody on here will be able to help . Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wascal Posted September 15, 2018 Report Share Posted September 15, 2018 Make sure the foregrip is seated properly , that caught me out for a while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead eye alan Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 Posibly cartridge fussy try hull superfast , my first hatson did the same with eley carts. my latest one 4 yeas old no problem fires any thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 OK might be silly but is the gun spotlessly clean. including the gas ports! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzicat Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 24 minutes ago, DUNKS said: OK might be silly but is the gun spotlessly clean. including the gas ports! +1 Also, only lube with graphite, not oil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 4 hours ago, guzzicat said: +1 Also, only lube with graphite, not oil I use dry Moly in my Beretta. Oil turns into a horrid grindy paste mess. It says to run dry but I just cant do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deny essex Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 used to run mine dry apart from trigger pivots for 8 years , no problems till the gas ports near burnt through the mag tube then it went bye byes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 as above clean gas ports, and 70 mm carts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 I made up a long drill bit handle and use it to keep the gas ports clean and use Teflon lube very lightly on the moving parts of the piston and rings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 Do you use 70mm carts .i had the same trouble with a webley 820 not recycling.would only recycle 70mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the big shot Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 Make sure the O ring in front of piston is in good condition. Clean out the two gas ports I use a pipe cleaner and only use 70mm cartridges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Heron Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 I have written at length on here about this problem but I found that Hull cartridges will not cycle in a semi-auto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 I've not had any problems at all with super fast pigeon though the A303. Ive a mate who has a hatsan which wouldn't cycle 32g fiocchi sporting pigeon properly these are in the 67mm case, again something the beretta will do no problem. Think it's more down to the hatsan than anything else. Luck of the draw with the gun maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 On 16/09/2018 at 16:02, Swinton said: Do you use 70mm carts .i had the same trouble with a webley 820 not recycling.would only recycle 70mm That or longer, and a decent weight will give you a good chance. Check the cleaning and oiling as well if that doesn't work. Best option is dump it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 If you get rid I will take it off your hands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longstrider Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 My Hatsan Escort doesn't like Hull cartridges either. Superfast Pigeon tend to get 'dropped' by the extractor and left loose in the breech area. Almost any other 70mm cartridge with a good clean rim on the base will cycle just fine. Perhaps the Hulls have a slightly more rounded edge to the cartridge rim ?? Doesn't seem to matter how filthy the guts of the gun are if I use something like NSI Sipe 32g #6's, it just kills things and spits the empties a country mile all day When I do strip and clean it, I leave the workings bone dry as per instructions when I bought it new, but it's always gone against the grain to do so. I use graphite powder as work so will try a little of that in there from now on. Good tip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 On 17/09/2018 at 18:39, Swinton said: If you get rid I will take it off your hands Yeah, big demand for spares for Hatsans! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotgcoalman Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 Iv'e got a 10 year old hatsan auto that'll cycle 76/70/67/65mm from 50g down to 24g. Strip it and check it hasn't got it's own eco system in the trigger group/ejector/gas ports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltings Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 (edited) depending on mechanism cartridge length is important 70mm min a lot of shells are stamped 70mm and are 65 and 67mm which can cause problems check overall length of shell when fired what's printed on the case just means safe in 70mm chambers other than that an adjustments to spring tension piston or stand hard and don't let your body absorb the recoil an issue my son used to have as he was 6"3 and 9 stone once he stood solid no problems there after also check oil usage when colder certain oils thicken or get waxy edds red is a great alternative especially in harsh conditions Edited September 18, 2018 by Saltings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R-421 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 I can not get my magazines to fit properly or if they fit, they want feed after stroke/pump. I have the escort bullpup 12ga... please help... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 Welcome to Pigeon Watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dafid69 Posted November 19 Report Share Posted November 19 On 09/01/2024 at 22:24, R-421 said: I can not get my magazines to fit properly or if they fit, they want feed after stroke/pump. I have the escort bullpup 12ga... please help... That the new semi auto that has box mag behind the trigger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banno Posted November 24 Report Share Posted November 24 Does anyone have a link for stripping g and cleaning the ports etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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