islandgun Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 Any views ? personally Im for it, but wonder if the big pharma companies feel the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 If it works why not .i am all for useing it if it helps people .just hope it dose not get abused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 If it was for one of my kids I’d get it by any means available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mochastorm Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 I don’t understand all of the hype. There are far more dangerous drugs being prescribed in vast quantities every day. As has been said, if it works then use it. If it helps kids with severe epilepsy, give it. If an MS sufferer has some respite from their pain, give it. This is medicinal cannabis. If you want something stronger then contact your local drug dealer. If it helps the sick and those in pain then they should have access to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 If it is of genuine benefit, in a medical situation.....yes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 17 minutes ago, Mochastorm said: I don’t understand all of the hype. There are far more dangerous drugs being prescribed in vast quantities every day. As has been said, if it works then use it. If it helps kids with severe epilepsy, give it. If an MS sufferer has some respite from their pain, give it. This is medicinal cannabis. If you want something stronger then contact your local Labour Councillor. If it helps the sick and those in pain then they should have access to it. I corrected it Sorry couldn't help myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 If it helps ease people's suffering then yes, absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 I’m 100% up for it. If I was ill I wouldn’t hesitate having it if it eased pain and suffering. I lost my sister through epilepsy and think this could really help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 Correct me if I'm wrong , but hasn't the THC element been removed from medicinal cannabis? Is it not just decent strength CBD ,that has been available for a while? How can you abuse it if it doesn't get you high ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 I can't see any objection when correctly prescribed for medical reasons, just as opioids are already prescribed (such as for severe pain). Many prescription medicines are also open to abuse, and can be addictive, so prescription needs to be done with care. I read that cannabis will not be available to prescribe except by medical specialists, not by a 'GP' doctor. I hope that this can give those in need the treatment that benefits them without the sort of addiction and abuse problems that are now apparent from some other prescription drugs (thinking particularly opioids and anti depressants). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 I am for it, but hope that cannabis abusers, dealers and growers don't start saying they weren't doing anything wrong, as you could get it on prescription. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny long shanks Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 Its long overdue. As mentioned in a previous post the thc has been removed so nobody will be getting high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serrac Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 36 minutes ago, jonny long shanks said: Its long overdue. As mentioned in a previous post the thc has been removed so nobody will be getting high. Not necessarily the case:https://www.gwpharm.com/healthcare-professionals/sativex®-delta-9-tetrahydrocannibinol-and-cannabidiol-eu-nabiximols-usa Since CBD oil is now readily available in the UK we can assume that those going to the trouble of importing product from Canada etc at great expense feel they require the "good stuff". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7daysinaweek Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, serrac said: Not necessarily the case:https://www.gwpharm.com/healthcare-professionals/sativex®-delta-9-tetrahydrocannibinol-and-cannabidiol-eu-nabiximols-usa Since CBD oil is now readily available in the UK we can assume that those going to the trouble of importing product from Canada etc at great expense feel they require the "good stuff". Sativex cost is £375 per prescription and is only available on specialist advice but has been available in the uk for several years. The research into cannabis related products for medicines is a growing market and I am sure big pharma will be watching. Ethical, Societal, legal, technological, and economical issues are among the main reasons that cabinninoids have not been greatly researched. I gauge that under the current climate of legislation which has been proposed this week that prescriptions issued for such products will be a tiny amount. The amount will be small in relation to other established medicines for the same conditions until more evidence based research and best practice is undertaken and shared, prescriptions will grow over time if the benefits outweigh the risks. It still has to be established what medicinal cannabis products are, what formulations they may come in ?, also doses, treatment programs etc and this will only come from much more evidence based medicine, it will all take time. This is the reason why only specialist will be able to prescribe under the limited research at present and their own accountability. Medical cannabinoids share some similar problems coming to the marketthat are current in the developing world in relation to antibiotics. The big seven as they are referred to are the top seven drug companies in the world, collectively their worth runs into 10 of billions. They are a business and at the end of the day they are not non profit organisations. You go into business and you have two options you can produce a drug that targets a large section of society that have a defined prevalent burdening disease that affects society both physically, emotionally, socially and economically. Take statins for instance, as a producer you can capture a patient cost profit every single day for many, many years as it both used in the management of a condition but also as a prevention in specific groups who do not have disease but are in a at risk group. Patient A : Statin cost per day £1 over 30 years = approx £11,000 Patient A : antibiotic cost per 5 day course £7.50, if the patient takes 20 courses over a lifetime = £150 As you can see the same pt is much more profitable with statins, this is one of the pinnacle reasons that research and development into new antibiotics is so lacking. It can take hundreds of millions to get a drug to the market and then there are no guarantees it will get there and once there it may be taken off the market. Hopefully pharmaceutical are watching and there are now a few non for profit drug companies popping up ran by philanthropists. The endocannabinoid system of the body is only just starting to be understood and there are groups of neurologists all over the world who are focusing on this. There are so many factors involved in getting medications into the hands of the patient. In relation of this thread, anything that improves quality of life gets a thumbs up if the benefits outweigh the risks. I have high empathy with any individual who faces a decreased quality of life and can understand to a large extent the things people do and the reasons why. As said if it was my loved ones the costs would be irrelevant. Big pharma profits 1st, ethics second or ethics first, profits second? 19 hours ago, islandgun said: Any views ? personally Im for it, but wonder if the big pharma companies feel the same atb 7diaw Edited November 2, 2018 by 7daysinaweek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 About time and long overdue.Watch the share price now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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