misser Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) Hi...have got an old shed at the back of the house which is rotten and is coming down in the next few weeks...was looking at replacing with a single skin brick pent roof lean to (against next doors much taller wall)....dimensions would be approx. 15ft long by 7ft wide by 7ft high....just want as basic as possible to store lawn mover garden tools etc, assume would need concrete base in..I have no idea as to price for the job or how much concrete would need...am going to get some ball park quotes but am dreading it as don't want to show too much lack of knowledge and get fleeced...any comments or ball park figures for the cost of such would be much appreciated....thanks...atb….misser Edited March 25, 2019 by misser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 I wouldnt have thought your neighbour would be happy for you to build up against there wall . Presume that you will need 4 walls (not 3 ) and that you will have to be at least a foot (probably more ) away from it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misser Posted March 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 hi ultrastu... its a dividing wall it does appear to come over my boundary by an inch or so so assumed it was ok to build onto it, there has at some stage been a structure there as some stage it has been removed, thanks for pointing this out I just assumed it was ok...might have to look at it further..will try and put a pic up...thanks....atb….misser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 It may be easier and cheaper to just level as much space as you need, lay about two or three old wooden railway sleepers down and fasten down a shed onto them ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 I wouldn't build up to someone else's wall. What happens if he wants to knock it down at some stage in the future? As said, it must be better to have a self-contained structure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 Talk to your neighbour first! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misser Posted March 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 Managed to upload pic of the proposed location.. it's a bit of a non descript damp corner. .atb .misser thanks for the replies...am going to have a word with the neighbour and as walshie could build a back wall as well...thanks...atb...misser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 And you will have to leave access for his soil pipe too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misser Posted March 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 hi tightchoke ..that is my soilpipe...the boundary is basically the wall that the bins are against...thanks...atb...misser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 Fair enough good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misser Posted March 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 thanks tightchoke...think ive opened the proverbial can of worms to be honest...might have to review the whole situation possibly...cheers misser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 Just stick a 6 x 4 plastic shed there. No maintenance required and can easily be dismantled and moved, should the need arise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 If you did want to build using that wall as part of the building then you'd come under the Party Wall Act, which would entail a fair bit of expense (legal fees, surveyor, etc) if done properly - and I'd imagine any neighbour would insist on it all being done properly. Alternatively, as others have said, a levelled area and a shed - with enough space to get between the shed and the wall for clearing leaves, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 Would it be possible to do a lean to with a timber frame and a corrugated roof with paving slabs for a floor ? , if any problems at any time with the neighbour you could then dismantle the framework to bring it back to the original wall , no need for footings or a concrete base and something you could possibly do yourself . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobba Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 If you intend to build a brick permanent structure close to or incorporating part of your neighbours wall I suggest you read the Party Wall Act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph5172 Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) 42 minutes ago, marsh man said: Would it be possible to do a lean to with a timber frame and a corrugated roof with paving slabs for a floor ? , if any problems at any time with the neighbour you could then dismantle the framework to bring it back to the original wall , no need for footings or a concrete base and something you could possibly do yourself . The problem would be the butting upto. If it wasn’t fixed you would get water leaking in from the wall unless you got some thick foam and butted it right up using that as a seal or get a summer house type affair Edited March 25, 2019 by ph5172 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 Don't build on a raft,dig footing and concrete foundations, and as stated you cant build against the pipework. Or you will end up knocking it all down after receiving a nice letter from the council. Cant you build it somewhere else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misser Posted March 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 Thanks gents for the comprehensive replies...never heard of the party wall act , but I have now....might be back to the drawing board..that's the beauty of the forum, a wealth of knowledge and experience...thanks again gents...atb....misser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltings Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) the picture supplied no problem as half of said wall is yours cast a floor slab with 12mm expansion joint (flexcel or foam helps to set your levels where not shuttered) to yours and neighbours / party wall or use sharp sand and gannet slabs for floor use thermalite block walls and waterproof render or bricks insulated inside if you wish or timber frame for your walls and cut a lead weather proof joint into party wall / your wall and stack to weather proof the roof don't over think this as a shed / temporary building also less than thirty m sq floor area does not comply to building regs and if memory serves less than 3.0m to ridge or 4m cant remember to the highest roof point again does not comply a lot of regs on line are all about permanent dwellings kitchen extensions not temporary buildings / sheds a two bed log cabin granny flat in your back garden comes in the category of a temporary building build your man cave and enjoy you don't have to inform the neighbours as you are not doing any demolition that affects them your cutting a brick joint out to put lead in and repoint on your side all the best build what you want don't forget pot belly stove for a proper man cave Edited March 26, 2019 by Saltings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misser Posted March 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 thanks saltings... extremely informative posting, think you've just about covered everything even the pot bellied stove, damned good idea...much appreciated for all the info...atb...misser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbob Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 You really need to review the party wall act as said above. It covers party walls between buildings and on boundaries e.g garden walls. I don't think its always given that half the wall is yours, it might be your neighbours. You might want to check your land registry map, it will show you who's responsible for the upkeep of the boundary wall. If it was me I and I wanted to build a structure there I would be notifying the neighbour under the terms of the Party Wall act or just buy a timber shed and build it next to the wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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