Walker570 Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, rimfire4969 said: I was planning to plant some trees in a corner of a field that we don't really use as its about a mile from my house. I have now decided to go the whole hog and plant all 2.5 acres with native species (some from steve b) and also dig a pond. Planting this will be a more intresting legacy to leave my children than a grass field. Also a place to spend a few hours relaxing, there is already a small barn in the field, a bit of work and we have a useful place for storage. Have a look at initially putting in poplars. I did this because I hadn't the time left on this planet to wait for an oak to grow. I planted 10 acres with 3800 poplars and have now thinned them into 4 mtr spacings. They are now 80ft high and form the canopy. Ash, oak, walnut, chestnut etc etc have naturally seeded own and I have underplanted with hazels. In 20yrs it is now true wood. Had I planted oak etc it would hve taken longer to get to this stage. I planted in the Farm Woodland Grant Scheme and that allowed me 15% of the area for access rides and ponds, so I dug two out. Some of the ash trees are now 6 inches thick and 4ft high and oaks are also getting to look like real trees. I can tell you even a small 10 cre plot tkes some managing but it is pleasant work and you get a huge amount of joy from seeing it develope. I have thinned half of the poplars and logged those and sold them as firewood locally and used some here at home. Some I slabbed and they were large enough to provide timber to build cabins in the wood for sorting squirrels etc and bird watching. What you are looking at was three small grass fields 20yrs ago. That cabin is made from 2 inch thick slabs cut from a few of the poplars we thinned. Edited May 5, 2019 by Walker570 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 2 hours ago, steve_b_wales said: Mel had quite a few Oak saplings from me last year. the leaves only fell off those saplings two weeks ago lol, i really need to get them re planted. the two saplings that you sent me a couple of years ago , are looking great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted May 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 On 05/05/2019 at 17:02, mel b3 said: the leaves only fell off those saplings two weeks ago lol, i really need to get them re planted. the two saplings that you sent me a couple of years ago , are looking great I was expecting them to be fully grown now Mel, so I can affix my Hammock to them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted May 8, 2019 Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 9 hours ago, steve_b_wales said: I was expecting them to be fully grown now Mel, so I can affix my Hammock to them! At the rate they're growing ,another two years and you'll be able to 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon Shredder. Posted May 8, 2019 Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 On 04/05/2019 at 17:12, steve_b_wales said: As I understand it. The strange thing is that I've only ever planted acorns from one species and from the same tree. What about all the ones sent into you after last season, have you not potted those. I know those l sent in were from different trees around the golf course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick123 Posted May 8, 2019 Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 There certainly is a huge variety of Oaks, many non natives have been imported over the years and some people have large collections of the varieties.I saw an estimate of 600 species! Would be very interesting to see how this one develops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted May 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Pigeon Shredder. said: What about all the ones sent into you after last season, have you not potted those. I know those l sent in were from different trees around the golf course. Oops, I forgot about them! I usually plant ones that have been harvested myself. The one's from you have been potted, and have either been sent out, or I'm waiting for them to grow further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted May 8, 2019 Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 Northern Red Oak. Quercus Rubra maybe/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted May 8, 2019 Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 33 minutes ago, old man said: Northern Red Oak. Quercus Rubra maybe/ Agreed. An interesting find by steve_b_wales as they are not particularly common. Was the plant grown from an acorn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewluke Posted May 8, 2019 Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 try this app https://www.woodlandtrust.org.uk/visiting-woods/trees-woods-and-wildlife/british-trees/identify-trees-with-our-tree-id-app/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted May 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 24 minutes ago, JDog said: Agreed. An interesting find by steve_b_wales as they are not particularly common. Was the plant grown from an acorn? Yes, I grew it from an acorn, but not sure where the acorn came from. I usually plant acorns collected by myself from a local farm, but if there's none about, I get some sent to me by PW members. This particular Oak is around 2 years old and will be planted out when I find a suitable place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Prawn Posted May 8, 2019 Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 Forgive the hijack Steve but whats the germination rate for acorns? I've always been interested in how many thousands (more like millions I guess) fall from Oaks in the year and yet how few young oaks I see. I realise many will get munched when small but curious what 'ideal' conditions might bring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted May 8, 2019 Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 22 minutes ago, The Mighty Prawn said: Forgive the hijack Steve but whats the germination rate for acorns? I've always been interested in how many thousands (more like millions I guess) fall from Oaks in the year and yet how few young oaks I see. I realise many will get munched when small but curious what 'ideal' conditions might bring? A lot of deciduous trees including Oak have a chemical mechanism whereby their own offspring in the form of acorns never germinate under the canopy of the parent tree thus reducing competition for water and nutrients. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted May 8, 2019 Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, JDog said: A lot of deciduous trees including Oak have a chemical mechanism whereby their own offspring in the form of acorns never germinate under the canopy of the parent tree thus reducing competition for water and nutrients. From memory once they fall the first growth in that year is a tap root to see it over the dormancy of winter, then in spring it throws up a leader and away it goes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted May 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2020 Further to my request to find out what tree I have in the pot, I've taken a few photos of it again this morning. It's now approx 3-4 years old and hopefully, it will be planted out later this year. I also want to find out what the second sapling is. I think it's a Horse Chestnut (?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 5, 2020 Report Share Posted May 5, 2020 Sweet chestnut I think for the second one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted May 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2020 20 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Sweet chestnut I think for the second one I think you are right, as I remember someone sending me a few 'conker's to plant, and only two germinated. EDIT: Just checked, and you are correct. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 5, 2020 Report Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Sweet chestnut I think for the second one hello, i love em, chestnuts roasting on an open fire but i remember they use to go with a bang !!!!!!! we use to collect them from near our home, it was called chestnut avenue Midhurst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 5, 2020 Report Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 minute ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, i love em, chestnuts roasting on an open fire but i remember they use to go with a bang !!!!!!! we use to collect them from near our home, it was called chestnut avenue Midhurst And you're meant to make a hole in them before cooking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted May 5, 2020 Report Share Posted May 5, 2020 Only one success so far this year and still in early stages...... collected seed locally.... anyone care to hazard a guess? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 5, 2020 Report Share Posted May 5, 2020 Coniverous? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted May 5, 2020 Report Share Posted May 5, 2020 19 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Coniverous? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted May 5, 2020 Report Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Stonepark said: Yes Scots Pine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted May 5, 2020 Report Share Posted May 5, 2020 (edited) The first one looks like a Turkey Oak but may be a Northern Red Oak. Edited May 5, 2020 by JDog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClemFandango Posted May 5, 2020 Report Share Posted May 5, 2020 pendunculate oak. As said before, there is some varyation in the newly formed leaves amd the leaves of ypung trees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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