Harnser Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 Do to the lack of rain and the farms as arid as a dessert my farmer friend is having to irrigate the spuds ,sugar beet and believe it or not wheat and barley . Really worried about losing some of his cereal crops . Harnser y . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Harnser said: Do to the lack of rain and the farms as arid as a dessert my farmer friend is having to irrigate the spuds ,sugar beet and believe it or not wheat and barley . Really worried about losing some of his cereal crops . Harnser y . hello, where does he take his water from ? the East coast has not had the rain like Ireland/ Midlands North UK and Scotland, saying that we have had very little here in the Vale, still on the cards is a new Reservoir the size of Heathrow Airport, and yet they are building 1000s of new homes up and down our country with no thought as to where the water supply will come from, in my life time i have seen 1 river disappear and a beautiful chalk river reduced to stream, i hope the farmer can save his crops Harnser, ps, our trout lakes get a hammering in summer as siphoned off for irrigation Edited May 25, 2019 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 We are due for some this next week, so hope it spreads as far as Norfolk. We are pretty dry here as well with some maize now 3 inches above the ground but the fields did get a serious soaking of slurry a few weeks ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 We had rain last week a day later the ground was cracking again. Not enough to wet it through it just ran off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 40 minutes ago, figgy said: We had rain last week a day later the ground was cracking again. Not enough to wet it through it just ran off. hello, i can remember that a few years back after a dry spell the rains came and washed a lot of top soil off the fields into the roads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zedthou Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 I was meant to be out at the crows & pigeons today,rained off!,forecast's are the same until next Thursday,the joys of living in the Highlands...😧 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 hello, how feasible to channel water down from parts UK that have plenty via rivers/stream/ etc rather than go out to sea or maybe it would upset the ecology of the natural habitat, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamch Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 Just now, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, how feasible to channel water down from parts UK that have plenty via rivers/stream/ etc rather than go out to sea or maybe it would upset the ecology of the natural habitat, it would probably spoil the ecology. There was a mad plan a while ago to pipe water from Keilder in Northumberland which is acidic peat water to Yorshire dales which is alkali limestone water. Plan was abandoned due to the environmental damage it would have caused. On the other hand taking water from river just to irrigate crops also causes huge ecological damage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 1 minute ago, grahamch said: it would probably spoil the ecology. There was a mad plan a while ago to pipe water from Keilder in Northumberland which is acidic peat water to Yorshire dales which is alkali limestone water. Plan was abandoned due to the environmental damage it would have caused. On the other hand taking water from river just to irrigate crops also causes huge ecological damage hello, yes i thought as much, it very much spoils the trout lakes we rent of the farm, what we pay is nothing compared to the crops and money made with the pick your own, our few 1000s compared to £100,000 per week, it it far more than a PYO every weekend there is a 1000 plus cars each day, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted May 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 3 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, where does he take his water from ? the East coast has not had the rain like Ireland/ Midlands North UK and Scotland, saying that we have had very little here in the Vale, still on the cards is a new Reservoir the size of Heathrow Airport, and yet they are building 1000s of new homes up and down our country with no thought as to where the water supply will come from, in my life time i have seen 1 river disappear and a beautiful chalk river reduced to stream, i hope the farmer can save his crops Harnser, ps, our trout lakes get a hammering in summer as siphoned off for irrigation Norfolk is a very dry county due to most of our weather coming from the west coast, it just doesn’t reach us and blows it self out . He had a huge reservoir built a few years back that he fills during the winter months from natural springs on the farm . Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 31 minutes ago, Harnser said: Norfolk is a very dry county due to most of our weather coming from the west coast, it just doesn’t reach us and blows it self out . He had a huge reservoir built a few years back that he fills during the winter months from natural springs on the farm . Harnser hello, that sound good but it is still a lot of work irrigating the fields, hope all goes well. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 4 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, how feasible to channel water down from parts UK that have plenty via rivers/stream/ etc rather than go out to sea or maybe it would upset the ecology of the natural habitat, The rivers Tyne , Wear and Tees are tunnelled together . This was done when British Steel was a busy place at Teeside.. when it first started , Tyne salmon were trying to come up the river Tees . Amazing how the could sense the tyne water in the tees . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 4 hours ago, johnphilip said: The rivers Tyne , Wear and Tees are tunnelled together . This was done when British Steel was a busy place at Teeside.. when it first started , Tyne salmon were trying to come up the river Tees . Amazing how the could sense the tyne water in the tees . hello, that is interesting john, the wonders of nature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon controller Posted May 26, 2019 Report Share Posted May 26, 2019 19 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, how feasible to channel water down from parts UK that have plenty via rivers/stream/ etc rather than go out to sea or maybe it would upset the ecology of the natural habitat, There was some talk a few years ago about using the canal system to transfer water around the country as they are linked in some way. This was to incorporate sluices in the locks to manage the flow which were centrally controlled and worked on gravity and water pressure.Or was it another PIPE DREAM!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted May 26, 2019 Report Share Posted May 26, 2019 We could do with a good day of rain down here, not so good for the tourists but my cover crops could do with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 26, 2019 Report Share Posted May 26, 2019 52 minutes ago, pigeon controller said: There was some talk a few years ago about using the canal system to transfer water around the country as they are linked in some way. This was to incorporate sluices in the locks to manage the flow which were centrally controlled and worked on gravity and water pressure.Or was it another PIPE DREAM!!! hello, i think read something about that myself PC, although the canals represent only a small percentage of waterways in UK, but nothing is impossible given the choices we will be getting in the UKs long term future for water supply, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted May 26, 2019 Report Share Posted May 26, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, pigeon controller said: There was some talk a few years ago about using the canal system to transfer water around the country as they are linked in some way. This was to incorporate sluices in the locks to manage the flow which were centrally controlled and worked on gravity and water pressure.Or was it another PIPE DREAM!!! They do it in California and have done for many years. Lots of water up north and they ship it south in a canal, the Californian Aqueduct. It helps irrigate the vat areas of oranges and other citrus fruits in the valleys. Certainly a better way to spend OUR money than some Lah de Dah high speed rail network. Edited May 26, 2019 by Walker570 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon controller Posted May 26, 2019 Report Share Posted May 26, 2019 28 minutes ago, Walker570 said: They do it in California and have done for many years. Lots of water up north and they ship it south in a canal, the Californian Aqueduct. It helps irrigate the vat areas of oranges and other citrus fruits in the valleys. Certainly a better way to spend OUR money than some Lah de Dah high speed rail network. Totally agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotgcoalman Posted May 26, 2019 Report Share Posted May 26, 2019 Tees/Wiske pipeline was put in years ago as a "just in case" measure. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_Wiske Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 On 25/05/2019 at 14:16, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, how feasible to channel water down from parts UK that have plenty via rivers/stream/ etc rather than go out to sea or maybe it would upset the ecology of the natural habitat, This was being trialled years ago. The water company had a very deep bore hole which always produced, the water was pumped into an adjacent steam through a series of lakes to end up somewhere else. Water will probably be the limiting factor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 19 minutes ago, old man said: This was being trialled years ago. The water company had a very deep bore hole which always produced, the water was pumped into an adjacent steam through a series of lakes to end up somewhere else. Water will probably be the limiting factor? hello, i heard there was a scheme in London where excess rain water was pumped in to deep wells, to be taken out if required, not sure if that was done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 1 hour ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, i heard there was a scheme in London where excess rain water was pumped in to deep wells, to be taken out if required, not sure if that was done This was Birmingham. Underground water levels boosted as local brewers went out of business? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 On 25/05/2019 at 14:16, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, how feasible to channel water down from parts UK that have plenty via rivers/stream/ etc rather than go out to sea or maybe it would upset the ecology of the natural habitat, Lots of rivers my way but the Thames is the main one. I don't know exactly how it works but removal of water from the river is tightly controlled, farmers etc have to apply for permission. Just the same I often see them with a big hose in the river and wonder!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear1cat Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 I have never understood why we don’t have desalination plants. we live on an island, so surely it would be easy to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestonSalop Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bear1cat said: I have never understood why we don’t have desalination plants. we live on an island, so surely it would be easy to do. Easy but very expensive to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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