Jacko3275 Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 I’m new to this still trying to find a perm but just got back from walking dogs where I saw 2 definite flight lines and hundreds of pigeons hitting wheat but it not laid flat are they just feeding from the tramlines this is the second field in as many days that I seen this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 They start from the tram lines and work their way in. Perfect time to contact the Farmer and off your services! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacko3275 Posted July 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 Tried before got a no as it’s estate game shooting fields but then again didn’t have photo evidence 11 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: They start from the tram lines and work their way in. Perfect time to contact the Farmer and off your services! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam triple Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 Going out Saturday with a mate for this reason he said don’t bring decoys I’m in 2 minds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 Go again, be polite, ask for one day, it may well lead to others especially if you can go in the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 If at first you don’t succeed try try again just offer your services for the day and if you get lucky remember to thank farmer and tell him how you got on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacko3275 Posted July 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Go again, be polite, ask for one day, it may well lead to others especially if you can go in the week. I’ll call tomorrow after work can only get no again at worst Don’t think they have released the game bird round there yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Christopher Jones Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 (edited) I have an intro letter / pack always in the car, ready to hand out - addressed Land owner / Estate manager 1/ intro about me 2/ BASC ins doc 2/ 2 perm forms one each Edited July 9, 2019 by Capt Christopher Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 mouthwatering picture... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 (edited) From earlier posts regarding this farm/estate you mentioned it was keepered and the keeper controls the shooting, if this is the case then approach the farmer again and ask him, if you can get the keepers approval would he be willing to let you shoot the field. Mind you with all those houses in the background you or the farmer may get a few complaints. Edited July 9, 2019 by old'un Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Christopher Jones Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, old'un said: From earlier posts regarding this farm/estate you mentioned it was keepered and the keeper controls the shooting, if this is the case then approach the farmer again and ask him, if you can get the keepers approval would he be willing to let you shoot the field. Mind you with all those houses in the background you or the farmer may get a few complaints. Hushpower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Capt Christopher Jones said: Hushpower Does he have one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacko3275 Posted July 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 17 minutes ago, old'un said: From earlier posts regarding this farm/estate you mentioned it was keepered and the keeper controls the shooting, if this is the case then approach the farmer again and ask him, if you can get the keepers approval would he be willing to let you shoot the field. Mind you with all those houses in the background you or the farmer may get a few complaints. They look closer than they are there is an unused dairy cattle field after the wheat field but it’s the other fields behind where I took these pics that they where hitting the other day with similar flight lines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jacko3275 said: They look closer than they are there is an unused dairy cattle field after the wheat field but it’s the other fields behind where I took these pics that they where hitting the other day with similar flight lines You can play one against the other, if the farmer is in agreement about you approaching the keeper get the farmers full name, when you approach the keeper say, Mr xxx would like me to have a go at the pigeons hitting his wheat, but he as asked me to get your ok before I shoot the field, keepers like to keep the farmers onside, although you do get some keepers that don’t care about keeper/farmer relations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 I second the hushpower route . A silenced gun can really open doors. As your potentially offereing what others cant. Discreet shooting. Even at very early / late hours of the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon controller Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 Not to divert the post but are Hushpower guns able to shoot steel cartridges which are not sub sonic but would be quieter than normal guns?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncher Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 Just now, pigeon controller said: Not to divert the post but are Hushpower guns able to shoot steel cartridges which are not sub sonic but would be quieter than normal guns?? No, as the plastic wads fill up the baffles and can cause a block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon controller Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, muncher said: No, as the plastic wads fill up the baffles and can cause a block. Thanks just checking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga man Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 It doesn't look an ideal place to any shotgun to me. If you watch the birds some more you may see them coming and going in a certain direction. Perhaps you could intercept them in an adjacent field? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacko3275 Posted July 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 31 minutes ago, aga man said: It doesn't look an ideal place to any shotgun to me. If you watch the birds some more you may see them coming and going in a certain direction. Perhaps you could intercept them in an adjacent field? It’s not ideal but the fields directly behind where the photo taken is, as that’s where they have the game shoots I’ll be in Cleethorpes this weekend if anyone want to give me some more experience in the field 👍😉 bit cheeky I know but do need it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga man Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 14 minutes ago, Jacko3275 said: It’s not ideal but the fields directly behind where the photo taken is, as that’s where they have the game shoots I’ll be in Cleethorpes this weekend if anyone want to give me some more experience in the field 👍😉 bit cheeky I know but do need it Sadly i cant offer any help at the minute Jacko as i head for 10 days in the sun on Thursday. Typically i have just spotted a good line too. Just keep doing as you are, you will get your lucky break before too long and hopefully some rape and barley stubbles will come soon making things easier. My main point was, you dont always have to be on the exact field to be effective. Hours of observation and recon can pay dividends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacko3275 Posted July 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 Enjoy your holibobs and if ye needs a spare gun giz a shout any time 1 hour ago, aga man said: Sadly i cant offer any help at the minute Jacko as i head for 10 days in the sun on Thursday. Typically i have just spotted a good line too. Just keep doing as you are, you will get your lucky break before too long and hopefully some rape and barley stubbles will come soon making things easier. My main point was, you dont always have to be on the exact field to be effective. Hours of observation and recon can pay dividends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenholland Posted July 10, 2019 Report Share Posted July 10, 2019 On 09/07/2019 at 17:14, sam triple said: Going out Saturday with a mate for this reason he said don’t bring decoys I’m in 2 minds just take a couple of floaters then , that won't hurt, good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam triple Posted July 10, 2019 Report Share Posted July 10, 2019 1 hour ago, kenholland said: just take a couple of floaters then , that won't hurt, good luck. I’ll do that ,cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted July 10, 2019 Report Share Posted July 10, 2019 On 09/07/2019 at 18:49, muncher said: No, as the plastic wads fill up the baffles and can cause a block. I thought it would be the other way around with fibre wads breaking up as they pass through the baffles, I have shot plastic and fibre through the 20g husher and never had a problem ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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