sportsbob Posted August 30, 2019 Report Share Posted August 30, 2019 12 hours ago, henry d said: One brexit debate gets pulled for name calling and getting personal with insults; what don`t you understand about that? Nothing I said was offensive or a personal insult. It seems the answer to my question is still a resounding NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted August 30, 2019 Report Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Scully said: It's as if they've been given a list of questions they must not ask! more likely a list of questions their willing to answer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 9 hours ago, Mice! said: more likely a list of questions their willing to answer? It does make you wonder. 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 News pictures of the week on BBC. Placard reading Defend Democracy - Stop Boris -- Stop Brexit Where do these people get their idea of what democracy is??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said: News pictures of the week on BBC. Placard reading Defend Democracy - Stop Boris -- Stop Brexit Where do these people get their idea of what democracy is??? The Devil can cite scripture for his purpose (Shakespeare - Merchant of Venice) Edited August 31, 2019 by Vince Green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said: News pictures of the week on BBC. Placard reading Defend Democracy - Stop Boris -- Stop Brexit Where do these people get their idea of what democracy is??? 😂 It truly beggars belief! I can't figure out if they're just thick, or just blinkered in their campaign, or just arrogantly believe that they are right and everyone else is wrong, so their hypocrisy doesn't matter. It genuinely baffles me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Scully said: 😂 It truly beggars belief! I can't figure out if they're just thick, or just blinkered in their campaign, or just arrogantly believe that they are right and everyone else is wrong, so their hypocrisy doesn't matter. It genuinely baffles me! I suspect all of the above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) Like a petulant child who can get its own way they just scream louder and stamp their feet harder I noticed yesterday that Corbyn was calling for civil disobedience. It didn't take long for his mask to slip. Same old Communist agitator at heart Edited August 31, 2019 by Vince Green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 The politicians will probably ignore us – as they usually do – but they can't say they haven't been told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 Bun Fight at the OK Corral, it is a showdown, will the remainers and the NoDealers combine to stop Brexit completely or will Boris get his way and fulfil the democratic wishes of the majority? Who blinks first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) The politicians will probably ignore us – as they usually do – but they can't say they haven't been told. Can't argue with this bit.. ...." Comment sites have become the domain of mob rule and the death of reasoned discourse. " Edited August 31, 2019 by Retsdon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 10 minutes ago, Retsdon said: The politicians will probably ignore us – as they usually do – but they can't say they haven't been told. Can't argue with this bit.. ...." Comment sites have become the domain of mob rule and the death of reasoned discourse. " Really? On this site and every other social domain, each person gets a voice and can put across their point ( rightly or wrongly ) without interruption. Everyone has a voice. That is becoming less common in public debates such as TV or radio, or indeed in public, where the aggressor will, can and does, interrupt, and shout over their opponents to stifle their opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted August 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 20 minutes ago, Scully said: 😂 It truly beggars belief! I can't figure out if they're just thick, or just blinkered in their campaign, or just arrogantly believe that they are right and everyone else is wrong, so their hypocrisy doesn't matter. It genuinely baffles me! It is very likely that the people who go on these 'protests' do so for a 'day out'. The actual underlying reason for the demonstration is of no real relevance, they can meet with all the comrades, have a good shout and a good time, maybe even manage a bit of vandalism on the side, or knock of a policeman's helmet or two if they get lucky. Just like the flying pickets of the 1970s, the CND protests of a decade earlier. There is an undercurrent of people on the left who live this sort of life (and a similar one on the right, though probably smaller). No job, live on handouts, believe in a state where work isn't needed and should be voluntary. I doubt either side really know what democracy means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, JohnfromUK said: It is very likely that the people who go on these 'protests' do so for a 'day out'. The actual underlying reason for the demonstration is of no real relevance, they can meet with all the comrades, have a good shout and a good time, maybe even manage a bit of vandalism on the side, or knock of a policeman's helmet or two if they get lucky. Just like the flying pickets of the 1970s, the CND protests of a decade earlier. There is an undercurrent of people on the left who live this sort of life (and a similar one on the right, though probably smaller). No job, live on handouts, believe in a state where work isn't needed and should be voluntary. I doubt either side really know what democracy means. Used to be called "Rentamob" Similar thing with signing petitions on line! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted August 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Used to be called "Rentamob" That's the lot! In those days they were given free coach transport organised by the Unions. Maybe Momentum is arranging that now, though I expect they all have cars now (being on benefits). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 40 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said: News pictures of the week on BBC. Placard reading Defend Democracy - Stop Boris -- Stop Brexit Where do these people get their idea of what democracy is??? They will say your idea is wrong.. Having a vote and getting a result they don't want isn't democracy to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted August 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, ShootingEgg said: Having a vote and getting a result they don't want isn't democracy to them I think there is a genuine tendency among today's youth to believe Democracy means 'getting your own way'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 20 minutes ago, Scully said: That is becoming less common in public debates such as TV or radio, or indeed in public, where the aggressor will, can and does, interrupt, and shout over their opponents to stifle their opinions. Just like on PW then. /M 14 hours ago, pinfireman said: Sorry, but I HAVE seen it for myself! I have seen it as well, the point is that UK is no better/worse then anybody else. /M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 29 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: I think there is a genuine tendency among today's youth to believe Democracy means 'getting your own way'. Very very true unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 20 minutes ago, Nuke said: Just like on PW then. Well not really, for the reasons I've already given. If you stay within the bounds of the forum rules ( similarly to any other organised debate online ) your voice gets heard, and your opinions aired. Others may disagree, but they can't stop you airing them or stifle your voice, unlike a public platform. Your opinions are there for all to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 34 minutes ago, Scully said: Well not really, for the reasons I've already given. If you stay within the bounds of the forum rules ( similarly to any other organised debate online ) your voice gets heard, and your opinions aired. Others may disagree, but they can't stop you airing them or stifle your voice, unlike a public platform. Your opinions are there for all to see. There is quite a lot of shouting/bullying to try and intimidate people from contributing, you need to dare to post your meaning for it to be heard in the first place. /M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 I’m still looking forward to being out of the EU. After a a few bumps in the road and everything settles down it will be interesting to see if the remainders will change their rhetoric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsbob Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 22 minutes ago, Nuke said: There is quite a lot of shouting/bullying to try and intimidate people from contributing, you need to dare to post your meaning for it to be heard in the first place. /M Having your say is not the issue you seem to think it is, however the common issue there does seem to be is the same few keep saying the same thing over and over again. If there is a new development then debate is good but when the argument from the remain team is constantly echoed it can be a little tiresome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, sportsbob said: Having your say is not the issue you seem to think it is, however the common issue there does seem to be is the same few keep saying the same thing over and over again. If there is a new development then debate is good but when the argument from the remain team is constantly echoed it can be a little tiresome. And vice versa also applies. Lets face it, we should agree to disagree and close the thread down. It’s been going around in circles, more times than the hands on Big Ben! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Scully said: On this site and every other social domain, each person gets a voice and can put across their point ( rightly or wrongly ) without interruption. Sure. But the problem is that domains are almost exclusively tribal. I could show you the contents of a comment section of random national newspaper and without being told you'd know after reading a dozen comments which newspaper it belonged to. And it doesn't matter which paper it is, I'll almost guarantee that the vast majority of the comments will be negative. It might be the way things just are nowadays, but it's not healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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