clay shooter Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 uno smile on my face sir. We have won the game set and match..Avery is in isolation as is Packham.and crew..400meters safe buffer zone around recognised registered reserve. To be agreed from September by law By the way why not look into the areas of bird watching ..?. Flooded areas ...and the reserves ? Im sure they are a burden some run down .... some seriously in the way of us sportsmen who cannot enjoy shooting nearby some areas of good and plenty sport can then be had....after all they tried to destroy my pleasure... My sport. Should we threaten action like they have done (you prob do not agree) but the tax payer will save money allocated to their org... Or is it ..kill the shooter save the twitcher eh ? You can buy a few decoys or a new camo net eh??? AND YES Dave The basc can do without you if you dont agree .. so thats the answer... Go...even from the area known for great days wildfowling.... The wash ... never shot there but told its good shooting you have clubs there a plenty...reserves for our enemies too the twitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greylag Posted March 21, 2020 Report Share Posted March 21, 2020 Wild Justice are already going after Natural Resources Wales on the general licence asking for £42,500 to fight their case in court.At a time when the whole country is under stress they want the Welsh Government to fight in court when all their resources should be taken up fighting caronavirus.They care little for the general well being of people they are more concerned in lining the pockets of their solicitors Leigh Day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remimax Posted March 21, 2020 Report Share Posted March 21, 2020 i see 4 shooting organizations have been given the go ahead to be involved with fighting this latest general licence challenge in wales despite WJ opposing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greylag Posted March 22, 2020 Report Share Posted March 22, 2020 Unfortunately this is another case with WJ,it is the release of game birds,the case against NRW is a completely different fight.They are opening themselves to a few different judicial reviews.,but with the amount of money they are getting given to them Leigh Day are more than happy to take the money,these are the same firm of solicitors that brought the cases against British Soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan .They are only in it for the money they can make and Wild Justice supporters are only to pleased to give it to them.Chris Packham,Mark Avery and Ruth ...... can't remember her name are the drivers of these judicial reviews and you don't see them putting their money up front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted March 23, 2020 Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 Those that think voluntarily surrendering lead shot and throwing everybody else under the bus for the sake of the "big bag" boys trying to justify excessive putting down birds as "they sell it the pheasants to Waitrose" are following a false star. Wild Justice oppose grouse shooting per se...regardless of if the grouse are shot with lead or non-toxic. Wild Justice oppose releasing reared game per se...regardless of if it is shot with lead or non-toxic. Voluntary banning lead shot won't change it. Indeed even if a legal ban on lead shot were enacted by Parliament on lead it wouldn't change those two aims of Wild Justice. A voluntary ban on lead shot offers no benefit to most of us. It is simply the delusional equivalent paying of "Danegeld" with base metal instead of noble metal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 23, 2020 Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 5 hours ago, enfieldspares said: Those that think voluntarily surrendering lead shot and throwing everybody else under the bus for the sake of the "big bag" boys trying to justify excessive putting down birds as "they sell it the pheasants to Waitrose" are following a false star. Wild Justice oppose grouse shooting per se...regardless of if the grouse are shot with lead or non-toxic. Wild Justice oppose releasing reared game per se...regardless of if it is shot with lead or non-toxic. Voluntary banning lead shot won't change it. Indeed even if a legal ban on lead shot were enacted by Parliament on lead it wouldn't change those two aims of Wild Justice. A voluntary ban on lead shot offers no benefit to most of us. It is simply the delusional equivalent paying of "Danegeld" with base metal instead of noble metal. WJ oppose ALL killing for sport. Those who believe that the cessation of driven shooting will save their particular type of killing for sport, must be extremely naive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8 shot Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 Packham was scrounging for Money for some charity he is involved with on hisTwitter page last weekend, I believe. Shows the mark of the man with all that’s going outside his own important little world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 12 minutes ago, 8 shot said: Packham was scrounging for Money for some charity he is involved with on hisTwitter page last weekend, I believe. Shows the mark of the man with all that’s going outside his own important little world. hello, is it not possible to go on Twitter and tell him to naff off or something else !!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 2 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, is it not possible to go on Twitter and tell him to naff off or something else !!!!!! It is but he can just remove the post from his site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 1 minute ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: It is but he can just remove the post from his site. ok thanks, me not being a Twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 8 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: ok thanks, me not being a Twitter Nor me, but I know it is weighted towards the site owner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clay shooter Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 The Welsh govt can not afford to fight this at the moment as wild justice know they will expect them to capitualate an as with defra and natural england ..just ban ..save money. The only way is if everyone who owns a license to write to his MP and say he will loose his seat. At the next election..But th govt at Westminster can veto any welsh legislation..Packham works freelance and has bbc contract. Pettition the bbc.hes gone of radar then..Avery has and can be sidelined..wild justice solicitors can be told ..you do not have to choose them for your buisness or legal stuff...remember in this day and age...money.... Money. Is the first thing.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 Just had an email from BASC stating they are taking WJ on in court well done to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatureBoy Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 9 minutes ago, clay shooter said: The Welsh govt can not afford to fight this at the moment as wild justice know they will expect them to capitualate an as with defra and natural england ..just ban ..save money. The only way is if everyone who owns a license to write to his MP and say he will loose his seat. At the next election..But th govt at Westminster can veto any welsh legislation..Packham works freelance and has bbc contract. Pettition the bbc.hes gone of radar then..Avery has and can be sidelined..wild justice solicitors can be told ..you do not have to choose them for your buisness or legal stuff...remember in this day and age...money.... Money. Is the first thing.. Yeah! Notice Packham done self isolating with his step daughter and needed to keep his public profile! He was on the BBC1 show tonight talking about CV19 and critters at a Somerset animal rescue centre. NB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greylag Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 Well done,they are one of three organisations taking them on.BASC have also asked to be registered as an interested party against wild Justice who are asking for a judicial review of the general license issued by NRW.Wild justice are at this moment attempting to raise £42000 for the fight against NRW.through crowd funding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clay shooter Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, NatureBoy said: Yeah! Notice Packham done self isolating with his step daughter and needed to keep his public profile! He was on the BBC1 show tonight talking about CV19 and critters at a Somerset animal rescue centre. NB Thats right Avery is in lockdown too.the main adversary is Ruth she is the backing moneybag i think and political adversary .maybe this will hurt them a birdwatching is not on the list of things to be out for..£60 fixed penalty in force north yorks...soon mony grab police will want some too.as their budget does not cover all this.so.. Twitchers are in the same poo as us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clay shooter Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, greylag said: Well done,they are one of three organisations taking them on.BASC have also asked to be registered as an interested party against wild Justice who are asking for a judicial review of the general license issued by NRW.Wild justice are at this moment attempting to raise £42000 for the fight against NRW.through crowd funding. they will get that and more..twitchers are agains shooting of birds thr release of birds..but they love the release of raptors packham will use his celeb status to get the money from them..the legal team will go ahead.. My thought is this ... Can the shooting organisations bring a case against wild justice for causing widespread worry amongst our farming communities. Who face worry over brexit...and now invasion of crop eating vermin of crops. Why not as suggested and is in the process of being tried after june the release of birds from reared stock will still be reared stock..on the land or estate they are stood or fly over ..birds from neighbouring estates.. Or land will also be classed as being reared where they are stood or fly over there identity will be where they are..... Located. So will be tried from june this year we hope .if all that goes ok then it will be in the JANUARY 2021 legislation ..if the present virus goes away to return to normal..sneek prev is not much change..perhaps thats why they want to go try wales..then they have welsh govt to add pressure on westminster...some welsh MPs are anti.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clay shooter Posted March 26, 2020 Report Share Posted March 26, 2020 (edited) Just a last thought if they do decide to make the birds that stand on or fly over land 400mteres away from the boundary then they are classed as reared ...Avery wild justice the rspb twitchers and our Mr Packham and crew would have no say if birds that are NOT NAMED ON the new 1981(amended 2021) wildlife and countryside act are shot whilst flying or are sat stood more than 400meters away from a reserve that is legally registered as one such. End of ..law made clear as it will be ..Altogether now lets go 400meters away...and .... Take that right when given by law..see what twitchers do to packham and Averys cry for money..when we shoot within ear shot..AND .....You can eat most of them you know...crispy duck comes to mind...and they cant ...(pun coming here) .....cook your goose for it.. Edited March 27, 2020 by clay shooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 29, 2020 Report Share Posted March 29, 2020 What on Earth are you on about!? 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatureBoy Posted March 29, 2020 Report Share Posted March 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Scully said: What on Earth are you on about!? 🙂 Same here! Confusing but funny! A Harry Enfield character comes to mind. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted March 29, 2020 Report Share Posted March 29, 2020 Any chance that you could send Packham and Avery a letter outlining your plans ? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clay shooter Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 Avery and Co already know their interests were represented.if you read the thread through you would know what ... Youre on about.. Enough said until eustace reveals outline of law in June. Then squawk eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 Can I ask why the over large type? It appears as if you’re shouting as well as ranting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 32 minutes ago, Scully said: Can I ask why the over large type? It appears as if you’re shouting as well as ranting. You saved me a post. In amongst a lot of rambling and gibberish the man shows that he cares about shooting. The large bold typeface tends to spoil it for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, JDog said: You saved me a post. In amongst a lot of rambling and gibberish the man shows that he cares about shooting. The large bold typeface tends to spoil it for me. Indeed. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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