Quarantine

[snow white]

Just seen on television teletext that all people flying in to uk must self quarantine for two weeks why was this not brought in when we was closed down.

But the best part it doesn’t start till the end of the month.

 

[TRINITY]

Exercise in futility as long as we are soft on illegal immigration. According to sky news 140 illegals landed in Dover yesterday and there will be even more that we missed.

[oldypigeonpopper]

hello, i thought this was still in discussion terms ? not yet sanctioned by the government, ?? i agree some form of measures should have been put in place since March 23 more so from China, but many Chinese nationals were in other counties that UK people were flying back from, there are no easy solutions then or now, Trinity they will keep coming because France are not interested to control their borders,

[TRINITY]

Correct the French see sending them over to us is the easy option. Nevertheless *** are we playing at ! take them straight back and don't provide a meet and greet ferry service

[Vince Green]

27 minutes ago, TRINITY said:

 

 

27 minutes ago, TRINITY said:

Correct the French see sending them over to us is the easy option. Nevertheless *** are we playing at ! take them straight back and don't provide a meet and greet ferry service

We can't sent them back because the French just refuse to take them back. No proof they ever came from France, how do we know they didn't come from Belgium? or Holland? is what they will say.

This is why the French wont give the migrants any form of documentation what so ever. That way they can deny they were ever in France.

The only option would be to leave them out in the channel to die like the Italians started doing in the Med

[Retsdon]

Hear those hooves disappearing over the horizon? Close the stable door.

[Scully]

The answer to all this is to just stop watching the news, both on the tv and online, and just get on with your life as best you can in the circumstances. 
Really, you’ll feel so much better.

Just go for a walk in the sunshine if you’re able, and don’t watch the news; it’s all doom and gloom and either about the impending worst recession in living history ( as if we needed telling anyhow ) or interviews with people who have lost relatives. 
Just get out while you can and leave that tv off. 🙂
 

[TRINITY]

Scully, agreed, must try harder 😁

[snow white]

Scully you must watch tv as how would you know about all the doom and gloom🤔

How do we not know that they could be isis fighters there are very few women and kids with them and they said there flag would fly over Buckingham Palace one day

[clangerman]

with the virus going they won’t get any publicity for attacks hence they have stopped which proves the media needs to stop mentioning the clowns 

[Raja Clavata]

This has already been done to death. The virus was already here so it was pointless, or at best very little reward for a lot of effort, to place restrictions on people arriving by air whilst our own infection numbers were increasing.

As and when we have it "under control" then it makes sense to place restrictions on arrival in the UK by all means of travel. I would expect a refinement of this later on with more than just Ireland being excluded from the restriction.

I'm at a bit of a loss as to why people keep banging on about the illegals arriving and their impact on COVID, the illegal immigrant situation needs sorting but the infection risk is not even in the noise overall.

[Scully]

3 minutes ago, snow white said:

Scully you must watch tv as how would you know about all the doom and gloom🤔

How do we not know that they could be isis fighters there are very few women and kids with them and they said there flag would fly over Buckingham Palace one day

I watch tv, I just don’t watch the news beyond the headlines anymore, and haven’t done so for over a fortnight now, and as soon as the what now seems obligatory interviews with relatives of the deceased start ( what’s the purpose of that? ) the tv goes off. Is this practice going to continue throughout the year now, and especially when we hit another spike in October when the just as lethal ( dependant on age and health ) but never reported flu virus  is reported along with Covid, takes its toll towards the end of each year? 
I hear the news on the radio, if I’m in the vicinity, but I don’t make a point of listening. 
 I haven’t bought a newspaper for years, literally, must be going on for five years or more now, and I very seldom click on newspaper links due to cookie policies. 
Try it, it’s much better. 🙂

 

[snow white]

The only thing we do is first thing of a morning is put teletext on just to scan through it while we have a panned never watch news at all thats where item came up can’t remember last time we watched bbc or itv as programs are a wast of time only watch discovery on sky that the only reason got a tele.

[lancer425]

1 hour ago, Scully said:

The answer to all this is to just stop watching the news, both on the tv and online, and just get on with your life as best you can in the circumstances. 
Really, you’ll feel so much better.

Just go for a walk in the sunshine if you’re able, and don’t watch the news; it’s all doom and gloom and either about the impending worst recession in living history ( as if we needed telling anyhow ) or interviews with people who have lost relatives. 
Just get out while you can and leave that tv off. 🙂
 

Thats the answer just watch the briefings, everyday. sip the governments coolade and Live.

To be honest personally, Only the youngest lad is not Earning/ working  currently, But he is at least Building a montessa 250 he might sell.

Wife is working from home and told them if she has to start going back in even after this she will leave, I am still working, sold Three Machines Two lathes and a bridgeport mill. since the lock down started. Daughter Unit  working from home eldest lad the same .

If they would let me shoot and fish. Travel to buy In and Go wildfowling. In season i could go on like this forever.  We are saving about £150 a week on diesel and I took about a grand more than this time last year.

If anything its making me more focused, and All i can say is this virus is bringing plenty of purchase opportunities to the table. Its looking good, and Folk are still buying.

[Newbie to this]

3 hours ago, Vince Green said:

The only option would be to leave them out in the channel to die like the Italians started doing in the Med

Wouldn't take long for the message to get out.

[Scully]

42 minutes ago, lancer425 said:

Thats the answer just watch the briefings, everyday. sip the governments coolade and Live.

To be honest personally, Only the youngest lad is not Earning/ working  currently, But he is at least Building a montessa 250 he might sell.

Wife is working from home and told them if she has to start going back in even after this she will leave, I am still working, sold Three Machines Two lathes and a bridgeport mill. since the lock down started. Daughter Unit  working from home eldest lad the same .

If they would let me shoot and fish. Travel to buy In and Go wildfowling. In season i could go on like this forever.  We are saving about £150 a week on diesel and I took about a grand more than this time last year.

If anything its making me more focused, and All i can say is this virus is bringing plenty of purchase opportunities to the table. Its looking good, and Folk are still buying.

I've stopped watching the briefings....what are they going to tell us? A local scrap dealer is doing great trade currently. Yesterday he sold a kids size ( all to scale ) bow top wagon to a couple of lads who had travelled from the NE, so that's a horse box and a bow top, plus a load of harness he's sold so far. He told me most farmers aren't bothering about him collecting scrap, but prices for certain metals aren't that good at the moment so he's sitting on it 'til they go up again, but he's happy just selling stuff to gypsies at the moment. 

Another couple have just bought a small trap pony, and her husband ( on furlough from being an HGV fitter/mechanic ) is now building a trap. 

I'm still working in vacant properties, or exterior work on occupied properties, and have just sold a painting via a gallery in Edinburgh, whilst OH has sold some brooches and a large piece of artwork to a client in Teesside while being furloughed, which isn't a problem as there are plenty of couriers still working. 

I too, have saved quite a bit of money as I'm not bobbing about all over the place, and learning quite a bit ( and taking note ) about just where my money has gone in the past. I'm also learning what my priorities are. 

Regards shooting or fishing, I was walking home with my slipped shotgun over my shoulder one evening last week and was passed by a police vehicle. I have no idea whether they saw my slip or not, ( but would be hard pushed to believe they missed it ) but if they did, they didn't stop. I haven't been fishing for years, and still can't understand why I said 'yes' when someone offered to give me another fly rod the other day! Perhaps because it would be binned otherwise. 

Just do what you need to get by, but don't forget to live along the way. 

[lancer425]

2 minutes ago, Scully said:

I've stopped watching the briefings....what are they going to tell us? A local scrap dealer is doing great trade currently. Yesterday he sold a kids size ( all to scale ) bow top wagon to a couple of lads who had travelled from the NE, so that's a horse box and a bow top, plus a load of harness he's sold so far. He told me most farmers aren't bothering about him collecting scrap, but prices for certain metals aren't that good at the moment so he's sitting on it 'til they go up again, but he's happy just selling stuff to gypsies at the moment. 

Another couple have just bought a small trap pony, and her husband ( on furlough from being an HGV fitter/mechanic ) is now building a trap. 

I'm still working in vacant properties, or exterior work on occupied properties, and have just sold a painting via a gallery in Edinburgh, whilst OH has sold some brooches and a large piece of artwork to a client in Teesside while being furloughed, which isn't a problem as there are plenty of couriers still working. 

I too, have saved quite a bit of money as I'm not bobbing about all over the place, and learning quite a bit ( and taking note ) about just where my money has gone in the past. I'm also learning what my priorities are. 

Regards shooting or fishing, I was walking home with my slipped shotgun over my shoulder one evening last week and was passed by a police vehicle. I have no idea whether they saw my slip or not, ( but would be hard pushed to believe they missed it ) but if they did, they didn't stop. I haven't been fishing for years, and still can't understand why I said 'yes' when someone offered to give me another fly rod the other day! Perhaps because it would be binned otherwise. 

Just do what you need to get by, but don't forget to live along the way. 

Re the briefings, I accept we are being told what we are being told. But The media is doing the same but on another angle perhaps. So who knows, and is it really that important. In WW2 we got told what they wanted, this is a war of a different kind. But we still have morale/ even control to maintain so i have a brad margin for what the briefings say. And Accept what is said with quiet scepticism at times, but i feel a degree of understanding for the position the government has found itself in which is as oft said unprecedented , certainly in 100 years or so.

Dealling if you can with consideration to the guidance and social distancing fine, we have to continue. same with you , in properties, If your working safe as in unocupied or new builds outside work. first fitting etc. Its fine just keep away from one another maintain your distance etc.

Shooting. We are just not going to ever agree on that. I do not think the same way as you on that, we must just acept that. But We are where we are the rest is now history, we will see it run its course and it will be what it is. and who knows lets hope we are both still alive after the dust settles and we are crawling out the wreckage into a brand new day.   There is a song there somewhere.

[Scully]

We just see things differently, that’s all.  I don’t even regard is as wreckage, it’s just something to get through as best we can.
Some will be tearing out their hair with regards to the economy too; whereas I just knuckle down and get on with it ( it’s not like it’s unchartered territory ) as I really really don’t know what else the media with all their prophecies of doom and gloom etc etc expect us to do! It wouldn’t be too bad, but after giving us the catastrophic headlines it turns out it’s all ‘conjecture’ and may be short lived and not as bad as we think! 😂 Just what are we supposed to do with all this *****? 
Im just getting on with getting on, but in a much more sedate and chilled out way. 🤷‍♂️

Edited May 9, 2020 by Scully

[lancer425]

18 minutes ago, Scully said:

We just see things differently, that’s all.  I don’t even regard is as wreckage, it’s just something to get through as best we can.
Some will be tearing out their hair with regards to the economy too; whereas I just knuckle down and get on with it ( it’s not like it’s unchartered territory ) as I really really don’t know what else the media with all their prophecies of doom and gloom etc etc expect us to do! It wouldn’t be too bad, but after giving us the catastrophic headlines it turns out it’s all ‘conjecture’ and may be short lived and not as bad as we think! 😂 Just what are we supposed to do with all this *****? 
Im just getting on with getting on, but in a much more sedate and chilled out way. 🤷‍♂️

Best way money might be tight but it might not too.   WE will get by i remember having nothing a crumbling ruin of a one bedroom bungalow, a MK1 escort van" wifes and it had to feed horses carry stuff. a small rice horse box i re boarded. " and a 9 year old 1971  Honda CB750. A springer pup and a ten year old black lab . Our settee was a Morris minor back seat, armchairs were Morris minor front seats.  We had two stools and the dinning table was Morris minor wheel rims tacked together and a piece of 3/4 inch sheathing ply with sticky back plastic stuck on it and just table cloth on that. Forks knives were canteen   cuttlerey given us as a weeding present from my granddad.

Was a hovel but we were rural and it was ours.  Remember coming back in one night after taking dogs a run over salt fleet, and wife walks in the door screams, i ran in just in time to see a mass of siver fish fleeing from the light. Oh the joys.   If it all went tits up i would do it all again, we only said the other night were talking to the kids, they could not believe how basic we lived back then. A black and white TV and a Paranel washer with wringer on it which had home made rollers on it because the originals had spit and fell apart. 

It might get like that again but not a lot any of us can do if it does.

[AVB]

So people flying in will need to quarantine but not those arriving by train or car or lorry??

[lancer425]

13 minutes ago, AVB said:

So people flying in will need to quarantine but not those arriving by train or car or lorry??

Are the details on this that specific AVB i thought they were still drafting this. ?

[Dave-G]

11 hours ago, lancer425 said:

Best way money might be tight but it might not too.   WE will get by i remember having nothing a crumbling ruin of a one bedroom bungalow, a MK1 escort van" wifes and it had to feed horses carry stuff. a small rice horse box i re boarded. " and a 9 year old 1971  Honda CB750. A springer pup and a ten year old black lab . Our settee was a Morris minor back seat, armchairs were Morris minor front seats.  We had two stools and the dinning table was Morris minor wheel rims tacked together and a piece of 3/4 inch sheathing ply with sticky back plastic stuck on it and just table cloth on that. Forks knives were canteen   cuttlerey given us as a weeding present from my granddad.

Was a hovel but we were rural and it was ours.  Remember coming back in one night after taking dogs a run over salt fleet, and wife walks in the door screams, i ran in just in time to see a mass of siver fish fleeing from the light. Oh the joys.   If it all went tits up i would do it all again, we only said the other night were talking to the kids, they could not believe how basic we lived back then. A black and white TV and a Paranel washer with wringer on it which had home made rollers on it because the originals had spit and fell apart. 

It might get like that again but not a lot any of us can do if it does.

That's a long memory. 

[Vince Green]

22 hours ago, Raja Clavata said:

This has already been done to death. The virus was already here so it was pointless,

No its not pointless, in fact its far from pointless. How did the virus first get here? answer - on a plane brought in by a passenger. More accurately, brought in by an estimated 20,000 infected passengers

and how much virus still  came in day after day on all those flights from New York, Spain and Italy when their infections were peaking?

Because those flights were (and still are) coming in

Every infected person that came in was another potential breakout

People are still coming into heathrow and getting straight onto the underground

Pointless?  I disagree

Edited May 10, 2020 by Vince Green

[Mice!]

The problem is enforcing the quarantine,  it's all well and good saying stay home for two weeks. 

This is why the Isle of Man were or are putting people in a hotel at their expense for two weeks,  people were returning but not sticking to the two week quarantine.

[clangerman]

it is pointless anyone flying in just disappears and they will continue to do so failing to close the air ports was madness on day one and it’s still madness now