JohnfromUK Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, Vince Green said: Me too, I will be right at the front of the queue You might have to beat me to it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 If you dont want it then dont have it - wonder how many Naysayers will change their tune if they catch the virus. I'm going to have it the minute it becomes available - so what if it has side effects 10 years down the line - it could well be 10 years I dont get if I refuse the vaccine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, Vince Green said: Me too, I will be right at the front of the queue Same here. As for compulsory i doubt people will be made to have, but i think they will not be allowed into a lot of countries if they don't have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 side effects can’t be much worse than struggling to breathe your last sign me up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 I’d have it although there will be a lot in front of me. This is the provisional priority as published by HM Gov older adults’ resident in a care home and care home workers1 all those 80 years of age and over and health and social care workers1 all those 75 years of age and over all those 70 years of age and over all those 65 years of age and over high-risk adults under 65 years of age moderate-risk adults under 65 years of age all those 60 years of age and over all those 55 years of age and over all those 50 years of age and over rest of the population (priority to be determined) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetter Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) Compulsory no chance everyone has a choice after all with MMR we are still happily reaping the repercussions of that fiasco with a happy rise in measles cases Edited November 9, 2020 by Zetter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, bruno22rf said: If you dont want it then dont have it - wonder how many Naysayers will change their tune if they catch the virus. I'm going to have it the minute it becomes available - so what if it has side effects 10 years down the line - it could well be 10 years I dont get if I refuse the vaccine. "IT" is still undergoing tests, as it should. I doubt if it will be available any time soon. Who do they give 'it' to first ? A stupid question once again from a journalist to the PM earlier,,,, "Will the "top bods" of the government be getting it first ?" or words to that effect,,,, I changed channels at that point 😒 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 "IT" has been given to 45000 people with, currently, no side effects - I will take those odds. At the current rate of increase there's a very good chance I will catch the virus - if I do , I'm dead - simples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, bruno22rf said: If you dont want it then dont have it - wonder how many Naysayers will change their tune if they catch the virus. I'm going to have it the minute it becomes available - so what if it has side effects 10 years down the line - it could well be 10 years I dont get if I refuse the vaccine. A lot are under the false impression that if they get it all will be fine, sick a few days and all OK, they are wrong. If they interduce a vaccine, i would be first in the Queue. COVID-19 (coronavirus): Long-term effects - Mayo Clinic www.mayoclinic.org Heart. Imaging tests taken months after recovery from COVID-19 have shown lasting damage to the heart muscle, even in people who experienced only mild COVID-19 symptoms. This may increase the risk of heart failure or other heart complications in the future. Lungs. The type of pneumonia often associated with COVID-19 can cause long-standing damage to the tiny air sacs (alveoli) in the lungs. The resulting scar tissue can lead to long-term breathing problems. Health problems post coronavirus diagnosis Public Health England says persistent health problems reported following acute Covid-19 disease include: respiratory symptoms and conditions such as chronic cough, shortness of breath, lung inflammation and fibrosis, and pulmonary vascular disease cardiovascular symptoms and disease such as chest tightness, acute myocarditis and heart failure protracted loss or change of smell and taste mental health problems including depression, anxiety and cognitive difficulties inflammatory disorders such as myalgia, multisystem inflammatory syndrome, Guillain-Barre syndrome, or neuralgic amyotrophy gastrointestinal disturbance with diarrhoea continuing headaches COVID-19 (coronavirus): Long-term effects - Mayo Clinic www.mayoclinic.org Heart. Imaging tests taken months after recovery from COVID-19 have shown lasting damage to the heart muscle, even in people who experienced only mild COVID-19 symptoms. This may increase the risk of heart failure or other heart complications in the future. Lungs. The type of pneumonia often associated with COVID-19 can cause long-standing damage to the tiny air sacs (alveoli) in the lungs. The resulting scar tissue can lead to long-term breathing problems. Health problems post coronavirus diagnosis Public Health England says persistent health problems reported following acute Covid-19 disease include: respiratory symptoms and conditions such as chronic cough, shortness of breath, lung inflammation and fibrosis, and pulmonary vascular disease cardiovascular symptoms and disease such as chest tightness, acute myocarditis and heart failure protracted loss or change of smell and taste mental health problems including depression, anxiety and cognitive difficulties inflammatory disorders such as myalgia, multisystem inflammatory syndrome, Guillain-Barre syndrome, or neuralgic amyotrophy gastrointestinal disturbance with diarrhoea continuing headaches. Edited November 9, 2020 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, bruno22rf said: "IT" has been given to 45000 people with, currently, no side effects - I will take those odds. At the current rate of increase there's a very good chance I will catch the virus - if I do , I'm dead - simples. The 45000 people are part of the testing. This will continue to however many the 'test' requires before going on general release. Many things have side effects,,,, some of the posts on PW make me laugh 😜 Paracetamol makes me feel sick 🤮 That's not a dig BTW,,,, just my thoughts, opinions and experiences 👍 Edit to add,,,, I suffer a bit with COPD, so dread getting the virus, but will deal with it if I do. When the 90% successful vaccine was announced earlier, I breathed a sigh of relief, as did millions of people on the planet I suspect 😌 Edited November 9, 2020 by JKD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, ordnance said: A lot are under the false impression that if they get it all will be fine, sick a few days and all OK, they are wrong. COVID-19 (coronavirus): Long-term effects - Mayo Clinic www.mayoclinic.org Heart. Imaging tests taken months after recovery from COVID-19 have shown lasting damage to the heart muscle, even in people who experienced only mild COVID-19 symptoms. This may increase the risk of heart failure or other heart complications in the future. Lungs. The type of pneumonia often associated with COVID-19 can cause long-standing damage to the tiny air sacs (alveoli) in the lungs. The resulting scar tissue can lead to long-term breathing problems. Health problems post coronavirus diagnosis Public Health England says persistent health problems reported following acute Covid-19 disease include: respiratory symptoms and conditions such as chronic cough, shortness of breath, lung inflammation and fibrosis, and pulmonary vascular disease cardiovascular symptoms and disease such as chest tightness, acute myocarditis and heart failure protracted loss or change of smell and taste mental health problems including depression, anxiety and cognitive difficulties inflammatory disorders such as myalgia, multisystem inflammatory syndrome, Guillain-Barre syndrome, or neuralgic amyotrophy gastrointestinal disturbance with diarrhoea continuing headaches. Long covid is still relatively rare though (c 5%). The vast, vast majority of people who get it will not suffer long term symptoms and many will not even know they had it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Scully said: If it means we can all resume our daily lives without having to wear masks and squirt sanitiser like it’s going out of fashion, socialise normally, get all businesses operating normally without the threat of more lockdowns, then I’ll be getting it as soon as the opportunity arises. Great news as far as I’m concerned. 👍 That’s how I feel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 I can sense a big sigh of relief on this thread 😌😌😌 But, there's a way to go yet 😒 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 Great news.. does anyone know where it was developed ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, islandgun said: Great news.. does anyone know where it was developed ? China! 🙂Only jesting, I think it’s a joint effort between the Germans/Americans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Scully said: China! 🙂Only jesting, I think it’s a joint effort between the Germans/Americans? Bit of a bonus is due to all those involved..👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 20 minutes ago, AVB said: Long covid is still relatively rare though (c 5%). The vast, vast majority of people who get it will not suffer long term symptoms and many will not even know they had it. Ok that's just tens of thousands, nothing to be concerned about. One study7 of 143 people with COVID-19 discharged from a hospital in Rome found that 53% had reported fatigue and 43% had shortness of breath an average of 2 months after their symptoms started. A study of patients in China showed that 25% had abnormal lung function after 3 months, and that 16% were still fatigued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, islandgun said: Bit of a bonus is due to all those involved..👍 You could see the joy from one of the scientists who is involved in its development,,,, interview on the news earlier 😊😊😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 22 minutes ago, Scully said: China! 🙂Only jesting, I think it’s a joint effort between the Germans/Americans? It is a joint venture between Pfizer and BioNTech. Pfizer is America and BioNTech German but Pfizer have plants and research facilities across the world so who knows where it was ‘developed’ likely it was developed in multiple locations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 its getting political now....................just listened/watched Milliband on sky interview..........the way he was talking you would have thought the labour party had invented the vaccine.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 Kate Bingham ... £670,000.00 of tax payers’ money on PR for her work as head of the vaccine task force. Absolute disgrace, this on top of her disclosures of sensitive government information for those willing to pay. Surely she can’t stay on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, WalkedUp said: Kate Bingham ... £670,000.00 of tax payers’ money on PR for her work as head of the vaccine task force. Absolute disgrace, this on top of her disclosures of sensitive government information for those willing to pay. Surely she can’t stay on? Hello, going end of January 2021 Hello, what do you expect being married to an MP most likely he gave her lessons on scamming the tax payer as happened with the expenses scandal, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 54 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, going end of January 2021 Hello, what do you expect being married to an MP most likely he gave her lessons on scamming the tax payer as happened with the expenses scandal, Quite 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Ruler Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 16 hours ago, eddoakley said: So there are 30 variations of influenza (a corona virus) and the "vaccine" is a guess at best of which one might be prevalent that season. There is no cure or vaccine for the common cold (a corona virus) There are reportedly more than a dozen strains of covid 19 already and more predicted every year.....And in a few months Pfizer have come up with a 90% effective vaccine that's proven to be safe. Thalidomide anyone? Great drug, definitely safe..... Nah, I'll take my chances and so will my family. I was going to go for a pint tonight until I saw that you had to produce photo I.D. And sign up to track and trace to get in. Not liking the idea of being so controlled one little bit and I believe, like others have said, that compulsory vaccines are coming. Edd Flu is caused by the influenza group of viruses not Corona viruses. Corona is responsible for some cases of the common cold (about 30%) but not all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mighty Ruler said: Corona is responsible for some cases of the common cold Correct - most are caused by rhinovirusses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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