TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 Well, I wonder where this is going? Lots of rumours about mothballing all or some of our Main Battle Tanks. Plenty of expectation of a cut to the Army of some 10 000 soldiers. Technology seems to be in the mix too. I have not yet heard anything with regard to our Nuclear Commitment, can we as a country afford to be in that game any more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 I suspect realism has hit home in that less recruitment is likely because so few youth will volunteer now that serving the country has become almost a hate crime to many and being potentially prosecuted for following orders. Also we don't have a surplus of youth with patriotic feelings about this country - though plenty will have patriotic feelings for another country and culture. I don't think we can afford not to maintain a protective nuclear shield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 Smaller and more specialised forces for limited international deployments backed up by refreshed Trident would be my guess. Which feels quite the gamble given the way things seem to be shaping up with Russia and China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spurs 14 Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 Dropped hints this morning of a reduction in boots on the ground and increase in new technology ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lampro Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 Will be all.about tech reduction on squaddy recruitment, tbh when was the last full on land war requiring thousands of troops, most is air to ground attacks SF infiltration and intelligence gathering, Russia and China can easily hit us with a computer virus tech war Russia with fuel.imbargos in there gas lines, America is always happy to throw the big guns in when in suites them and we will always pay tax payers money to them.to help out when required Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14397623/100-brit-marines-smashed-1500-us-troops-war-games/amp/ I doubt we'll ever have a big armed forces again, smaller more elite units. Just have to not stick our noses in all over the world like we have done in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam triple Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 No longer need big armies to kill and cripple countries as this Corona pandemic has shown , just a few hundred carriers and international travel does the rest , the gaming generation will be the soldier’s of tomorrow flying drones etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, Zapp said: Smaller and more specialised forces for limited international deployments backed up by refreshed Trident would be my guess. Which feels quite the gamble given the way things seem to be shaping up with Russia and China. Yes, the ability to take and hold a small town will be a most useful way of putting our newly named "Special Forces" out there. As has been said above, time to look inwards and stop trying to influence the rest of the world other than maintaining a nuclear deterrent. Edited March 23, 2021 by TIGHTCHOKE SYNTAX! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRINITY Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 4 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: As has been said above, time to look inwards and stop trying to influence the rest of the world other than maintaining a nuclear deterrent. I agree with that philosophy. I would go even beyond what we are already proposing. I would withdraw every military unit out of Europe. Let them defend themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouser Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 Cutting down on personnel, and increasing nuclear warheads, we have all ready got enough to destroy the world a few times over. You can use troops continuously, but once you start using nuke,s the games over for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRINITY Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 I wonder if the government have worked out how effective our nuclear deterrent will be when its main base is in the hands of a foreign country in probably 5 years or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 It's all good saying we should "keep our noses out", but if you look at why we are involved its to keep people like the Russian's from having control of the country etc. If people think it's wise for us to take a back seat whilst other countries that would happily see us come to harm start to dominate globally then they must have lost it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 6 hours ago, Lloyd90 said: It's all good saying we should "keep our noses out", but if you look at why we are involved its to keep people like the Russian's from having control of the country etc. If people think it's wise for us to take a back seat whilst other countries that would happily see us come to harm start to dominate globally then they must have lost it. I agree with this. We should be building our milatry up and at the end of the day, the only way to truly win a conventional war is good old boots on the ground unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 25 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: I agree with this. We should be building our milatry up and at the end of the day, the only way to truly win a conventional war is good old boots on the ground unfortunately. Yep,tech is great when it works.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 There’s no doubt the future is on tech. These days the Russians and Chinese can do more damage to our country by putting a virus into a bunch of distribution factories and costing us a fortune in issues than dropping a bomb on the factory. If it ever does come to dropping bombs, the future will involve a bunch of pilots sat in the U.K. flying drones thousands of miles away. Small, rapidly mobile and highly skilled forces with very high levels of tech support will likely be the future unless there is a major shift in world politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said: There’s no doubt the future is on tech. These days the Russians and Chinese can do more damage to our country by putting a virus into a bunch of distribution factories and costing us a fortune in issues than dropping a bomb on the factory. If it ever does come to dropping bombs, the future will involve a bunch of pilots sat in the U.K. flying drones thousands of miles away. Small, rapidly mobile and highly skilled forces with very high levels of tech support will likely be the future unless there is a major shift in world politics. Or a virus into our population, corona anyone 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: Or a virus into our population, corona anyone 🤔 Its proven highly effective. Although not very controllable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 On 22/03/2021 at 13:18, Dave-G said: I suspect realism has hit home in that less recruitment is likely because so few youth will volunteer now that serving the country has become almost a hate crime to many and being potentially prosecuted for following orders. Also we don't have a surplus of youth with patriotic feelings about this country - though plenty will have patriotic feelings for another country and culture. I don't think we can afford not to maintain a protective nuclear shield. Succinct Dave! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) On 22/03/2021 at 19:57, Mice! said: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14397623/100-brit-marines-smashed-1500-us-troops-war-games/amp/ I doubt we'll ever have a big armed forces again, smaller more elite units. Just have to not stick our noses in all over the world like we have done in the past. Sadly, we all know that politicos can't refrain from that because it's other peoples money and lives? Nuclear option is never an option as the areas bombed are not fit for anything to follow such as occupation etc? Edited March 26, 2021 by old man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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