30-6 Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 Why at 60 + years of age, and having several of various rifles including rim and centre fire rifles am I still getting the urge to buy a .177 springer ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 Because a spring air rifle is a really pure form of shooting. I just walked into my garden 5 mins ago and set up 4 tin cans and with my open sighted springer bopped them over . Gun back away .trigger time done for the day .smile on face . Get one . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 Hello, I did this many many years ago but picked the wrong rifle , a Chinese under lever and it clunked so much i could not hit a barn door , so get something decent like a HW 99, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 Because plinking with an air rifle is ( in England at least, compared to Scotland ) the simplest form of shooting there is, as Ultrastu has said. I have a very old Webley? Springer .177 leaning up against the wall in the studio. It’s never been used since the kids outgrew it. It’s worthless, but it still works and I won’t get rid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 Happiness is an old springer and a bean tin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, London Best said: Happiness is an old springer and a bean tin. That sums it up, completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30-6 Posted December 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 Bean tin ?, I thought a shaken coke can was mandatory, or am I thinking of a .17 hmr if no melons are available ? I have owned springers and gas ram as follows, not in order. Milbro G23, BSA meteor, relum tornado, BSA carbine airsporter, Webley mk3, BSA excocet, theoben countryman, theoben fenman. Currently use aa s200 and aa s410 xtra FAC. and an old gamo for trap caught pests when needed. The above comments are spot on. Simplicity and child hood memories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30-6 Posted December 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 My friend has got for his son a gamo swarm. I set it up for him and he's knocking over squirrels no problem. We tried various pellets and good old wasp came out best, with bisley gold second. Nice thumbhole stock, took off the 10 shot adapter but the silly shaped shrouded silencer spoils its look for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 44 minutes ago, 30-6 said: My friend has got for his son a gamo swarm. I set it up for him and he's knocking over squirrels no problem. We tried various pellets and good old wasp came out best, with bisley gold second. Nice thumbhole stock, took off the 10 shot adapter but the silly shaped shrouded silencer spoils its look for me. Why did he remove the repeater system if you don’t mind me asking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbower Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 8 hours ago, London Best said: Happiness is an old springer and a bean tin. This and ,Any springer and a bean tin . I left the pcp's at home today, had a wonder around the farm , with the HW95K .177 (Sandwell Field Sports ) . Didn't even see a squirrel , but had some great fun shooting twigs etc , and no worries about running out of air. Note to self ; Must do this more ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaz25 Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 All of the above plus you can get some truly well built guns! garden plinker to small game gun what's not to like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30-6 Posted December 31, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 Rimfireboy - Two reasons the 10 shot adapter was removed. Firstly, we agreed it looked horrible and done the appearance of the rifle no favours, and secondly, in the introduction to it in the leaflet that comes with the rifle there was a paragraph on how to unjam it. It seemed they were admitting pellet jams were inevitable. The barrel shroud to me looks horrible also. The model if I remember is the whisper swarm. I set it up for him on bench bags and explained the correct hold techniques, and like mentioned earlier he's taking squirrels OK. The thumbhole stock gives a very comfortable hold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jega Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 I consider myself very lucky to have just about all the guns i will ever need or want from co2 pistols to high end 12 bore shotguns ,but when the day comes that i cant find room in the cabinet for a decent .177 springer i'll give the game up . Present springer is a .177 Air arms prosport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 Coke cans are OK but really you need a steel baked bean tin for the satisfying "thunk" noise. Or on occasion a small pine cone just to watch it ping off never to be found. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbower Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) With or without the beans? Edited December 31, 2021 by Longbower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 15 minutes ago, Longbower said: With or without the beans? Never “bean” able to afford to shoot at a full tin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 Without the beans, better noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 Hello, did you get your Springer air rifle, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 I have a old Heanel 177 I don’t use much but it’s nice to shoot a few cans now and again takes me back to late fifties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accuspell Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) Bell target, the oldest form of airgun target shooting. The first league that can be reliably traced back is the Lord Ednum Trophy, first awarded in 1896. There are endless debates about which is the oldest still going - covid has taken a massive toll on the discipline with the loss of so many venues and the restrictions placed on intermingling with other people. In its heyday of between the two world wars there were more people participating in bell target shooting than any other activity, including football. If you think how much smaller Birmingham was in 1920 than it is today, and then realise there were over 1200 CLUBS in Brum alone.... gives you an idea. Bell target was, and still is, shot in pubs and working mens clubs, instead of a pool table the pub would have a bell target on the wall, sometimes at the end of the skittle alley, and a pellet vending machine on another wall. Instead of asking for the pool cue and chalk, you would ask for the rifle, which was kept behind the bar, not many people had their own back then. 1d in the vending machine would give you 8 pellets, 2 sighters and 6 to score. The rifles were underlever BSAs with a loading tap, the Lincoln Jefferies design, using a V sight and post and the league standard was a 4lb trigger pull. Pubs would shoot against each other, just like a darts league works, and the away matches were always a huge social event for the participants often going together by horse and cart, especially the village teams. The winners would get a lamb supper and a flagon of ale to share. There is nothing like airgun shooting for sheer accessibility, satisfaction and enjoyment. Edited January 5, 2022 by Accuspell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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30-6 Posted January 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 OldyPP Had a look around the web, Air Arms and Weihrauch fancying but do I want to spend the asking prices ? The BSA supersport looks nice. Reviews on BSA with gas rams are pretty poor. I want to support local dealers so really need to go and have a handle of some, but whether they would have the ones I fancy will have to see. A lot will order for you but better to handle. I just want something I can just grab and be ready, as opposed to my pcp's which require magazine filling etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accuspell Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) Get something a little older then, that has done all the depreciation and is going to be just as good, if not better better than, a newer model. Especially in the spring camp. I am sure there will be some really nice, used, airguns in your dealer's rack. HW98 or 95, 99s is good but needs deburring if new - a used one will probably have been done. The 77 / 97 depending on stock configuration, same rifle, is a long standing stalwart. Air Arms TX200 or pro Sport, if you finda Pro Elite please tell me, I have been looking for one for ages, preferably not in .177 though. Good luck in your search. Edited January 5, 2022 by Accuspell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 3 hours ago, 30-6 said: OldyPP Had a look around the web, Air Arms and Weihrauch fancying but do I want to spend the asking prices ? The BSA supersport looks nice. Reviews on BSA with gas rams are pretty poor. I want to support local dealers so really need to go and have a handle of some, but whether they would have the ones I fancy will have to see. A lot will order for you but better to handle. I just want something I can just grab and be ready, as opposed to my pcp's which require magazine filling etc. Hello, I can understand what you mean if it's just plinking in the garden , hope you find something suitable👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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