discobob Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) https://www.ukip.org/boris-johnson-has-abandoned-brexit in favor of Net Zero - which is what we will have left in our pockets when he finishes 😞 Edited February 4, 2022 by discobob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted February 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 14 minutes ago, discobob said: https://www.ukip.org/boris-johnson-has-abandoned-brexit in favor of Net Zero - which is what we will have left in our pockets when he finishes 😞 It's hard to disagree with anything in that link 👍. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted February 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 21 minutes ago, Smokersmith said: Shooting is rarely for free, so no surprise a majority people on here aren't overly concerned. What is true is that those with marginal disposable incomes will really start to feel the squeeze. Everything you potentially need to spend money on is going up .. Fuel (heating and transport), Food Interest rates will push up mortgage costs NI raise Even those folks who have some 'spare' ... will not have as much as they did. I think your last line is probably why I'm not too worried about it all . I don't live beyond my means anyway , and a bit of belt tightening doesn't really hold much fear for me , as I've done it in the past , and know how it works . I'm also very aware of how lucky I am . I'm a very very long way from being a wealthy man (financially), but I earn more than I need , so in my book, I'm lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 It’s going to kill me to be honest. I’m off with covid and thought I’d start to ring around for my internet. £13 saving a month . my gas and electric are behind now and I need another £30 a month putting on my account. living on my own and paying maintenance to 2 ex’s(4 kids) isn’t ideal . They get help with everything but the bloke gets stung. after all my bills I live off £200 a month to fuel my car and for food . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, team tractor said: It’s going to kill me to be honest. I’m off with covid and thought I’d start to ring around for my internet. £13 saving a month . my gas and electric are behind now and I need another £30 a month putting on my account. living on my own and paying maintenance to 2 ex’s(4 kids) isn’t ideal . They get help with everything but the bloke gets stung. after all my bills I live off £200 a month to fuel my car and for food . That sounds harsh. How old are the kids? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted February 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 26 minutes ago, team tractor said: It’s going to kill me to be honest. I’m off with covid and thought I’d start to ring around for my internet. £13 saving a month . my gas and electric are behind now and I need another £30 a month putting on my account. living on my own and paying maintenance to 2 ex’s(4 kids) isn’t ideal . They get help with everything but the bloke gets stung. after all my bills I live off £200 a month to fuel my car and for food . That sounds like hard going nath . I hadn't even considered folks that might be in that situation to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 51 minutes ago, Scully said: That sounds harsh. How old are the kids? 15/12/6/3 the oldest is my step daughter but I took her on from a baby and started paying for her. What ever I don’t pay for her tho goes to my ex wife so I’ve left it as it is. I still go halves on uniforms/clothes etc too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, mel b3 said: That sounds like hard going nath . I hadn't even considered folks that might be in that situation to be honest. It is what it is dude but simple things like a slab of pigeon cartridges aren’t in the running currently. My prices have gone up but the unit rent, timber prices , 4 months down time off covid , vans , machines are killing it. ive swapped my van for a new one but it’s actually £50 a month cheaper to buy than my old one plus it needs nothing spending on it where my old one needed brakes, tyres, service at £1500 . It’s another tool of my trade . Edited February 4, 2022 by team tractor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 minute ago, team tractor said: 15/12/6/3 the oldest is my step daughter but I took her on from a baby and started paying for her. What ever I don’t pay for her tho goes to my ex wife so I’ve left it as it is. I still go halves on uniforms/clothes etc too. You have my sincere respect and heartfelt empathy. I know it’s no compensation, but good for you for doing what’s right. I would take some advice to see what help is available if you haven’t already. A bloke I know was at the point he simply couldn’t pay and when he told the relevant authority he’d be better off on benefits, they found another means for him to stay in work and meet his obligations without it being to the detriment of his kids. Worth a look see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 3 hours ago, mel b3 said: I shall take a good look at that in a bit dave👍. This might sound backwards , but , I don't think that i need it , and I'd much rather is was given to someone that genuinely did need it . I definitely seem to be missing the point of it all. This was being discussed on the Martin Lewis show with Sunak last night, most don't need it and wouldn't notice if they didn't get it. While some will genuinely need it, and be hit by it. One of the lads in work asked what my gas & electricity bill was for January, I didn't have a clue, direct debit. But I asked the wife and our G&E was around £85 I'm sure the lad said £400 something?? We shop around and change deals all the time. But the media are only showing the people who will struggle but it fits there agenda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 Quote I still go halves on uniforms/clothes etc too. I know they are your kids and admire you for doing what you can, but if your ex-wife is getting the financial support from you - she should be paying for these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 hour ago, team tractor said: It’s going to kill me to be honest. I’m off with covid and thought I’d start to ring around for my internet. £13 saving a month . my gas and electric are behind now and I need another £30 a month putting on my account. living on my own and paying maintenance to 2 ex’s(4 kids) isn’t ideal . They get help with everything but the bloke gets stung. after all my bills I live off £200 a month to fuel my car and for food . I put both my feet in it years ago and have never forgotten it, fella in work said he was skint and I laughed at him, he was the works cat, never did less than 6.5 days a week, 12hr shifts, I pointed this out and he said two ex's plus kids and his own bills to pay for, he was only just making ends meet. Can't be easy mate, I'd do like Skully says and claim for everything you can, no point working every hour God sends and still struggling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuarta Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 3 hours ago, marsh man said: We tend to forget that fuel prices are only one thing that is certainly going up , add that on to just about everything else that we would normally buy on a weekly basis then it can and will be a concern , I do very little shopping but there are times when my wife ask me to pop in the super market on the way home to buy a few basic items , each time I go the cost seem to go up and up with things like milk and bread showing a sharp increase , add all those increases to each item in a full shopping trolly then for people on a low income it must be a worry . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Scully said: You have my sincere respect and heartfelt empathy. I know it’s no compensation, but good for you for doing what’s right. I would take some advice to see what help is available if you haven’t already. A bloke I know was at the point he simply couldn’t pay and when he told the relevant authority he’d be better off on benefits, they found another means for him to stay in work and meet his obligations without it being to the detriment of his kids. Worth a look see. Self employed means no help unfortunately mate. I have the kids 14 days a month too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 28 minutes ago, Mice! said: This was being discussed on the Martin Lewis show with Sunak last night, most don't need it and wouldn't notice if they didn't get it. While some will genuinely need it, and be hit by it. One of the lads in work asked what my gas & electricity bill was for January, I didn't have a clue, direct debit. But I asked the wife and our G&E was around £85 I'm sure the lad said £400 something?? We shop around and change deals all the time. But the media are only showing the people who will struggle but it fits there agenda. Hello, your right it's a BBC most common factor, chap on the above news, I'm paying more for Gas/Electric than rent !! Oh deary me , says she on her huge Beeb salary, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 Hello, bearing in mind millions in the UK live in fuel and food poverty , I have just seen a food bank van parked outside the new Lidl, where's this Van based, Oxford City 🤔, the 2nd wealthiest city in UK, not sure why even Abingdon has a food bank, 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph5172 Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 Is it a voluntary or mandated payment? I thought there was a sliding scale depending on how many days a year averaged you had the children. I always say to people to look at entitledto or speak to citizens advice on these matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) Fuel - and in particular domestic and workplace building heating is always a difficult subject. This is because there are very different views on what is needed. I grew up in a house with no central heating, an open fire to heat the main room, and a coal AgA in the kitchen. Bedrooms, corridors and bathroom were unheated. Although my parents added (coal) central heating when I was a teenager, it was only used in cold weather as background heat and you knew how much fuel you were using as you had to shovel it in! We learned to wear warm clothes. As a consequence, even today with modern gas fired central heating, my house is only heated to about 55 to 60 Fahrenheit with a (gas) fire in the room in which I sit to boost that room to about 65 F. To heat the whole house to 65 to 70 F (which the heating can quite easily do) uses a LOT of fuel. However - many people want their houses and working environment MUCH warmer. Before I retired I found the office unbearably hot in winter months (the temperature was often over 75 F) - but many of the other staff (especially the females) wanted it warmer still! Anything below 70 F resulted in formal complaints being made to the facilities manager. As a consequence - the office heating bill was enormous - doubly or triply so after gas boilers were replaced by heat pumps. I accept that many - especially the older people - probably do already have it quite cool - and do need warmth to be health and safe. Many others though are (or at least have been) very spoiled by 'cheap' heat. Edited February 4, 2022 by JohnfromUK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 44 minutes ago, team tractor said: Self employed means no help unfortunately mate. I have the kids 14 days a month too Yeah, me too. It has its up as well as down sides. I hope things improve for you before too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 Not only oldies needing heat, maybe think of those with genuine chronic illness too of limited means? IMHO, just the result of lacklustre politicos giving away control of out futures to others in the name of competition? Now there is no competition? We are where we are, a third world candidate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Gordon R said: I know they are your kids and admire you for doing what you can, but if your ex-wife is getting the financial support from you - she should be paying for these. This. That’s what you’re paying maintenance for, amongst other things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, old man said: a third world candidate I have removed the question mark - no question in it - it is a definite statement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 2 hours ago, team tractor said: I still go halves on uniforms/clothes etc too. the rubbish used to pay me the grand sum of £5 a week to feed and clothe two kids and she wonders why they now won’t give her the time of day what goes round comes round I love karma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Mice! said: I put both my feet in it years ago and have never forgotten it, fella in work said he was skint and I laughed at him, he was the works cat, never did less than 6.5 days a week, 12hr shifts, I pointed this out and he said two ex's plus kids and his own bills to pay for, he was only just making ends meet. Can't be easy mate, I'd do like Skully says and claim for everything you can, no point working every hour God sends and still struggling. I’m used to being poor 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Gordon R said: I know they are your kids and admire you for doing what you can, but if your ex-wife is getting the financial support from you - she should be paying for these. It just saves arguments to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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