Aled Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 End of season trip to the marsh today which ended in a blank, so time to give the guns a good clean and some tlc before storing for the summer.....the choke in my Lanber sporting upper barrel is stuck fast, and the choke in my Hatsan Escort is as well!!! (Blo*dy typical 2 of my guns!) So before i head to a gunsmith does anybody have any advice of what I can try first?? Many Thanks. Aled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferretlurcher1970 Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 Stand it barrel down in some diesel.and or warm up with hair drier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 If you search on the Forum for 'stuck chokes' I think you will find it is well covered ! I would go and buy a couple of litres of diesel in readiness ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOPGUN749 Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 Try a hot air gun on it and soak the barrels in something like thinners or Petrol, should loosen it,in future remove then after every use,and oil them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellside Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 You could try WD40, also tap the outside of the barrel on the choke area with a wooden tool handle - say a file handle or similar. Gently does it. Your just causing vibration, not a proper impact. Also over tighten the choke along with trying to loosen it. I’ve only ever done this once and it worked. If it’s really solid it’s the diesel option. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 im wondering if putting the barrell nose down in a sonic cleaner for an hour would work ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aled Posted February 16 Author Report Share Posted February 16 Thanks guys much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 42 minutes ago, Ferretlurcher1970 said: Stand it barrel down in some diesel.and or warm up with hair drier This. And/or but not with the diesel slopping all over try freezing the barrels and then when WELL frozen plunging the muzzle in boiling water. In theory the difference in expansion should "break" any seal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 (edited) Just to add to all of this advice, try putting the choke key in a vice and turning the barrels. A lot more leverage this way. Do this after a couple of days standing in diesel oil. Edited February 16 by Westley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aled Posted February 16 Author Report Share Posted February 16 Brilliant guys thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 Does diesel or petrol strip blueing? I'm sure I saw a post on FB the other week off one of the big barrel blueing guys showing a gun that had been stood in something to loosen a stuck choke. Blueing was totally gone in the submerged part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 6 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said: Does diesel or petrol strip blueing? If that is so then use a "creeping" oil or such like Plusgas? Which when I used to do cars in my youth we used to swear by and, sometimes, swear at! https://www.plusgas.co.uk/en-gb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 If you have it to hand I think the best fluid to stand the barrels in is a fifty fifty mix of ATF " automatic transmission fluid " and Paraffin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 1 hour ago, enfieldspares said: If that is so then use a "creeping" oil or such like Plusgas? Which when I used to do cars in my youth we used to swear by and, sometimes, swear at! https://www.plusgas.co.uk/en-gb It was Coca Cola 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 (edited) Nicely parkerised is that now. Coca Cola being partly phosphoric acid. Edited February 16 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 I would use diesel. It has very good creeping qualities, and includes some form of clever lubricant (to protect the tiny high stressed moving parts in the fuel injection items of the engine). I am also a fan of ATF (automatic transmission fluid) which has evolved to protect a complex highly stressed gearbox over a wide range of temperatures - a job it does well, but I think diesel creeps better, so better in this case. Both of the above have benefited from long evolution and HUGE research spending to make them really good at protecting complex mechanical items, and are so readily available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 11 hours ago, Lloyd90 said: Does diesel or petrol strip blueing? I'm sure I saw a post on FB the other week off one of the big barrel blueing guys showing a gun that had been stood in something to loosen a stuck choke. Blueing was totally gone in the submerged part. I have used diesel countless times for releasing stuck chokes, it has never damaged the blueing on any of the guns that I have done. I remember a few years back, the same was said about WD40. I have never seen WD damage a guns finish either. It amazes me, the number of stuck chokes that occur on peoples guns. I have NEVER had a stuck choke in my guns, since Winchester started using Winchokes in the 1980's. I do NOT remove them each time I clean the gun either. However, I do put the choke key in, break the choke seal, then retighten it after EVERY clean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 Dont have guns with multi chokes and save yourself a lot of problems . Simple !😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Gunman said: Dont have guns with multi chokes and save yourself a lot of problems . Simple !😁 I wouldn't, but I do have one so fitted by a previous owner. I grease (or check for grease) them every time I clean the gun (every time it is used) and never had one stick. Edited February 17 by JohnfromUK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 54 minutes ago, Gunman said: Dont have guns with multi chokes and save yourself a lot of problems . Simple !😁 I would not have a multi choke gun as a GIFT! What could possibly go wrong, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 1 hour ago, Gunman said: Dont have guns with multi chokes and save yourself a lot of problems . Simple !😁 Or simply learn good gun maintenance. 32 minutes ago, London Best said: What could possibly go wrong, eh? You end up with a fixed choke gun 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellside Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 Multi chokes are like everything else - if you take care of them they’re fine. After learning the hard way, I now always (always!) take the chokes out after rain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 1 hour ago, Newbie to this said: You end up with a fixed choke gun 🤷♂️ Full of rust between the steel for the last two inches of the barrels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 32 minutes ago, London Best said: Full of rust between the steel for the last two inches of the barrels? Good point, so you end up with a shorter fixed cylinder choke gun 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 2 hours ago, London Best said: I would not have a multi choke gun as a GIFT! What could possibly go wrong, eh? You end up with a cupboard full of guns that nobody wants. A bit like non steel proofed guns really 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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