Dog Kibble

[steve_b_wales]

From day one, our Cockapoo bitch (now almost 3 yrs old) has been fed John Burns kibble. She loves it and we have had no problems with her being fussy etc. She gets through around 3 x 12kg sacks a year, which are around £40-45 a bag. So its under £3:00 a week to feed her. She get's 'treats' like a cooked vegetable/meat dinner sometimes, and other bits and pieces. We were looking at WAGG kibble dog food yesterday and wondered if this was any good. It would work out at a third of the price per year to purchase, not that we are complaining at all at the cost of John Burns. What, if any, are other dog owner's opinions on WAGG? I read very good and very bad reports about this kibble.

[oldypigeonpopper]

Hello, My son has the same type of dog Steve about the same age called Mizzy , i will ask what he feeds her on as that comes in large bags

[London Best]

My present Lab is the first one I have had which is a fussy eater. 
I had always fed kibble/dry food. This Lab will not eat it...........except for cheapo Wagg!

[Yellow Bear]

3 hours ago, steve_b_wales said:

We were looking at WAGG kibble dog food yesterday and wondered if this was any good. It would work out at a third of the price per year to purchase, not that we are complaining at all at the cost of John Burns. What, if any, are other dog owner's opinions on WAGG? I read very good and very bad reports about this kibble.

Found it absolute Carp, pup was "not thriving" on it.   Yes it's cheap but just bulky rubbish.   Went to Skinners with no problems for the last nearly 11 years. 

[rimfire4969]

Quite a good website give a fairly good idea about what is in the food and gives marks out of 100. I feed skinners which does not come up the highest but does my dogs really well.

https://www.allaboutdogfood.co.uk/dog-food-reviews/0014/wagg-adult

https://www.allaboutdogfood.co.uk/dog-food-reviews/0001/burns-original-adult-senior

[London Best]

7 hours ago, Yellow Bear said:

Found it absolute Carp, pup was "not thriving" on it.   Yes it's cheap but just bulky rubbish.   Went to Skinners with no problems for the last nearly 11 years. 

I always fed Skinners but this Lab just will not eat it.

[bruno22rf]

Look for the dog food guide on the site "all about dog food" for nutritional ratings - just because your dog "loves" a food does not mean that it is good for them - let's not forget here that dogs will eat other dogs **** so don't trust their taste buds. The price you will pay for feeding barky Mc Woof woof Tesco value food is to be paid in later years with a myriad of health issues, buying it is a false economy (in my opinion of course)

[12gauge82]

On 20/04/2024 at 08:19, steve_b_wales said:

From day one, our Cockapoo bitch (now almost 3 yrs old) has been fed John Burns kibble. She loves it and we have had no problems with her being fussy etc. She gets through around 3 x 12kg sacks a year, which are around £40-45 a bag. So its under £3:00 a week to feed her. She get's 'treats' like a cooked vegetable/meat dinner sometimes, and other bits and pieces. We were looking at WAGG kibble dog food yesterday and wondered if this was any good. It would work out at a third of the price per year to purchase, not that we are complaining at all at the cost of John Burns. What, if any, are other dog owner's opinions on WAGG? I read very good and very bad reports about this kibble.

I can't say strongly enough, foods like wagg have appalling nutritional content. If you visit the site rimfire suggested, it'll give you a good idea of what's good. Ive always fed a premium kibble, heavily supplemented with a daily helping of healthy and appropriate 'human food' of whatever I've made. Every dog I've owned over the years (and I've owned alot) have lived far past the norm for their breed. For instance, one German Shepherd made 14, a collie I had was 17, a pointer I currently have is 16 and still going. All anecdotal, but it's well known that highly processed food is the worst food humans can eat, all dog kibble, even the best ones like orijen and eden are highly processed which is why I supplement them with high quality 'real' food and touch wood it's paid off for me, not only in long lives for my dogs, but very few vet visits to, which is why I think cheap dog food is false economy.

[bruno22rf]

If you wanted to increase the nutritional content of your dogs diet without breaking the bank then Butcher's tinned wet food either Joints and Coat or Healthy Heart varieties are very highly rated and still in the budget area cost wise. 

[steve_b_wales]

5 hours ago, bruno22rf said:

If you wanted to increase the nutritional content of your dogs diet without breaking the bank then Butcher's tinned wet food either Joints and Coat or Healthy Heart varieties are very highly rated and still in the budget area cost wise. 

[Penelope]

On 24/04/2024 at 08:14, bruno22rf said:

If you wanted to increase the nutritional content of your dogs diet without breaking the bank then Butcher's tinned wet food either Joints and Coat or Healthy Heart varieties are very highly rated and still in the budget area cost wise. 

I make up a gravy from 1/4-1/3 of a tin of Butcher's tripe loaf and hot water, which I pore over the dry kibble.

[marsh man]

3 hours ago, Penelope said:

I make up a gravy from 1/4-1/3 of a tin of Butcher's tripe loaf and hot water, which I pore over the dry kibble.

I buy exactly the same , 12 tins around £9.75 , mine have half a tin in the mornings with a calcian tablet mixed in , then three slices of chicken with a You Move tablet wrapped up in each slice , for his evening meal it is a bowl of Skinners Muesli and anything I have left , he is nearly ten and touch wood he haven't been to the vets since he had a health check when he was a puppy , mind you his front legs are getting a bit stiff , then so are mine 

[12gauge82]

On 24/04/2024 at 08:14, bruno22rf said:

If you wanted to increase the nutritional content of your dogs diet without breaking the bank then Butcher's tinned wet food either Joints and Coat or Healthy Heart varieties are very highly rated and still in the budget area cost wise. 

I took a look at that and was surprised how decent that food is for a relatively cheap wet food 👍

[Dave at kelton]

Wagg is often criticised but it kept my labs going for years until I increased their energy requirements by working three days a week on the hill. Now I feed Arkwrights which seems to maintain condition better and is no more than £15/sack.

[islandgun]

On 25/04/2024 at 17:48, marsh man said:

I buy exactly the same , 12 tins around £9.75 , mine have half a tin in the mornings with a calcian tablet mixed in , then three slices of chicken with a You Move tablet wrapped up in each slice , for his evening meal it is a bowl of Skinners Muesli and anything I have left , he is nearly ten and touch wood he haven't been to the vets since he had a health check when he was a puppy , mind you his front legs are getting a bit stiff , then so are mine 

Yer front legs are getting stiff ..😄

[marsh man]

10 minutes ago, islandgun said:

Yer front legs are getting stiff ..😄

Well spotted I G , mind you , they recon us East Anglian's were a bit different from the human race 

[islandgun]

5 hours ago, marsh man said:

Well spotted I G , mind you , they recon us East Anglian's were a bit different from the human race 

Must be why Ive never really got on with humans..😉

[243ack]

Wagg and a good helping of deer pluck for both my springers. One 14yrs, the other 7 and thinks he's still 2!!.

 

[smokingdragon]

We found that our dogs when they were on Wagg produced huge amounts of poo. We tried skinners but they refused it but are very happy on Dr John's Gold kibble and at £22 a 15kg sack is brilliant!

 

[steve_b_wales]

On 02/05/2024 at 16:32, smokingdragon said:

We found that our dogs when they were on Wagg produced huge amounts of poo. We tried skinners but they refused it but are very happy on Dr John's Gold kibble and at £22 a 15kg sack is brilliant!

 

I've just ordered a 15kg bag of Dr Johns Platinum. It's not so much as me saving money, but more of paying too much for almost the same thing. Anyway, I'll try my dog on this, and if I noticed any difference with her poo ( runny etc) after allowing her stomach time to adjust, then I'll stick with John Burns.

[Dave at kelton]

On 05/05/2024 at 15:53, steve_b_wales said:

I've just ordered a 15kg bag of Dr Johns Platinum. It's not so much as me saving money, but more of paying too much for almost the same thing. Anyway, I'll try my dog on this, and if I noticed any difference with her poo ( runny etc) after allowing her stomach time to adjust, then I'll stick with John Burns.

I use this with one of my labs as he doesn’t hold condition on Arkwrights. The Platinum has twice the fat content and higher protein level. It has done the trick with him!

[bruno22rf]

On 02/05/2024 at 16:32, smokingdragon said:

We found that our dogs when they were on Wagg produced huge amounts of poo. We tried skinners but they refused it but are very happy on Dr John's Gold kibble and at £22 a 15kg sack is brilliant!

 

Most likely because Wagg is very poor nutritional wise, with their best food only giving your dog 38% of it's required nutritional needs so they eat more and dump the waste.

[steve_b_wales]

I've just received my 15kg bag of Dr John's Platinum. I was surprised to find that there were no suggested feeding amounts on the bag. When I've used John Burns, there was/is a chart that suggests how much per kg dog weight to give to your dog. For example, John Burn suggests 10 gram per kilo of weight.  My Cockapoo bitch is 13kg, so how much Dr John's do I give her?

UPDATE: There was a 'bag in a bag' with suggested feeding amounts.

Edited May 8 by steve_b_wales

[London Best]

39 minutes ago, steve_b_wales said:

I've just received my 15kg bag of Dr John's Platinum. I was surprised to find that there were no suggested feeding amounts on the bag. When I've used John Burns, there was/is a chart that suggests how much per kg dog weight to give to your dog. For example, John Burn suggests 10 gram per kilo of weight.  My Cockapoo bitch is 13kg, so how much Dr John's do I give her?

I have never seen a sensible suggestion for feed amount on any packaging. 
Every one suggests feeding FAR too much.

[steve_b_wales]

My dog is not a working dog, although she is very energetic and has plenty of exercise. We are going to try her on roughly the same amount of food, and maybe, cut back a bit owing to it containing more protein etc.