First Trump vs Biden TV debate

[12gauge82]

3 minutes ago, oowee said:

I have seen him waving to empty stadiums and adding the people after. I have seen plenty walking out. 

I would rather an embalmed Biden than a mad Trump. What a hobsons choice it is. The last thing the world needs is a mad man. The last thing the States needs is pardoned thugs, and an insurrection.

Women's rights, Ukraine, Europe, North Korea,  Felony charges, there are so many reasons not to want a loony in charge. 

 

👍 forget the politics of the parties. What a carp choice. 

👍

[Rewulf]

1 hour ago, serrac said:

I've heard speculation that the dems asked for that to give them time to regroup around another candidate in the event Biden tanked like he did last night

I find it fascinating that, in the aftermath of last night, the left in the US , and elsewhere, are gasping in astonishment of how 'bad' he was, and unashamedly calling for him to be replaced !
What have they been watching for the duration of his presidency ?
The falling over , the gibberish he tends to come out with , the vacant stares.....
NOW theyre saying hes unfit , hes ALWAYS been unfit 

1 hour ago, serrac said:

Their other problem is the natural successor to take his place as Democrat candidate would be the vice president, Kamala Harris. 

I said back in 2020 , that Kamala would be replacing him within 6 months, due to his 'condition'
I didnt realise at the time, how bad she is.
Kamala is a couple of sandwichs short herself, and even the dems dont see her as a replacement.

Newsome will be rolled out shortly as nominee apparent, but I think the democrat goose is cooked this time around.

[scooby1]

i must say from looking at Biden he looks like he is on something and needs Help 🤣

[Jega]

Just watched this ,Biden is 100% senile and under normal circumstances would not be allowed out without supervision .

Frightening to think that in a country of 250million+  these are the best two candidates available .

[Miserableolgit]

A chap asked Satsuma & Smarmer during the BBC debate - are you two the best we’ve got?

The same could be asked of the two geriatric clowns in the States.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

1 hour ago, scooby1 said:

i must say from looking at Biden he looks like he is on something and needs Help 🤣

He is on BORROWED time......................

[scooby1]

i can second that  👍

[Minky]

So what are the Democrats going to do.? Carry on and take a chance on Joe.?  Find a new replacement candidate that is a safe pair of hands.  Is not a crook, not a liar, is not a sex maniac and someone who is reliable under pressure. Or is the roof of the building going to collapse and kill them all.  New game. Perhaps they'll be a lunatic gunman.  God help the world if trump gets into office. 

[serrac]

17 hours ago, Rewulf said:

Newsome will be rolled out shortly as nominee apparent, but I think the democrat goose is cooked this time around.

Their problem with Newsome is they would be replacing a black woman with someone who is not.
Woke-ism sucks when it bites you in your own butt 😏

[TIGHTCHOKE]

13 hours ago, Minky said:

So what are the Democrats going to do.? Carry on and take a chance on Joe.?  Find a new replacement candidate that is a safe pair of hands.  Is not a crook, not a liar, is not a sex maniac and someone who is reliable under pressure. Or is the roof of the building going to collapse and kill them all.  New game. Perhaps they'll be a lunatic gunman.  God help the world if trump gets into office. 

The Great SWAMP DRAINER.........................

[Vince Green]

Trump was appalling too. OK he came over better than Biden but what he said was mostly untrue, rambling or both.

Well below the standard you would expect from a Presidential Candidate

[TIGHTCHOKE]

8 minutes ago, Vince Green said:

Trump was appalling too. OK he came over better than Biden but what he said was mostly untrue, rambling or both.

Well below the standard you would expect from a Presidential Candidate

NOT from America, those days are LONG GONE when a reputable pair of candidates would be standing.

[Rewulf]

34 minutes ago, Vince Green said:

Well below the standard you would expect from a Presidential Candidate

Trump wasn't at his best admittedly,  but he isn't POTUS.

The other guy who is, was incoherent, dazed and confused.

The dems say that's because he had a cold 😆

[Vince Green]

19 hours ago, 12gauge82 said:

 the question then is who's really running the USA.

 

That's always been the case in American politics.

So much money is required to put a candidate through all the campaign process. 

Organisations and donors don't back a candidate for no reason. They do it to buy influence. Its not just presidents either. I happens at every level of American politics. 

Edited Saturday at 10:32 by Vince Green

[Raja Clavata]

Trump lies so much that he’s also incoherent, it’s a different type of incoherent but still incoherent. The difference to me is that Trump just seems inherently more dangerous than Biden.

What a terrible state of affairs. 

They should do the world a favour and replace both candidates.

We should be thankful we’re not a plutocracy.

[Rewulf]

39 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said:

The difference to me is that Trump just seems inherently more dangerous than Biden.

Id love to know how you arrive at that conclusion.
Just saying it doesnt make it true.
Tally up all the times that Trump bought the US to war, or got engaged with supporting war elsewhere, weapons supply ect, against Bidens record.
What makes Trump dangerous in any capacity ?

[Raja Clavata]

1 minute ago, Rewulf said:

Id love to know how you arrive at that conclusion.
Just saying it doesnt make it true.
Tally up all the times that Trump bought the US to war, or got engaged with supporting war elsewhere, weapons supply ect, against Bidens record.
What makes Trump dangerous in any capacity ?

Do you think Biden would do what Trump did if he loses?

Whilst we’re at it, do you endorse what Trump did?

[Rewulf]

11 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said:

Do you think Biden would do what Trump did if he loses?

Biden will do whatever his handlers tell him, he wont know what that is, because he doesnt comprehend whats going on around him.
And lets be right, Hilary had a go at contesting the result, but let go rather quickly when she realised the fight was lost.

There were anomalies in some districts, and the US postal vote system is wide open to fraud.
Trump got 9 million more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016, but Biden managed to pull up 15 million more than Hilary did in 2016, and Hilary was not an unpopular nominee.
Biden wont be contesting his loss, because he will likely be in a nursing home come November.

25 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said:

Whilst we’re at it, do you endorse what Trump did?

What did he do , there are so many things ? 
Election denial, being a Putin puppet, fraud, bedding pornstars, rape , fiddling loans, racism, sexism, homophobia, inciting riots ?

Come November , unless the dems have him killed, he will win by a comfortable margin, despite all this.

[Raja Clavata]

6 hours ago, Rewulf said:

Biden will do whatever his handlers tell him, he wont know what that is, because he doesnt comprehend whats going on around him.
And lets be right, Hilary had a go at contesting the result, but let go rather quickly when she realised the fight was lost.

There were anomalies in some districts, and the US postal vote system is wide open to fraud.
Trump got 9 million more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016, but Biden managed to pull up 15 million more than Hilary did in 2016, and Hilary was not an unpopular nominee.
Biden wont be contesting his loss, because he will likely be in a nursing home come November.

What did he do , there are so many things ? 
Election denial, being a Putin puppet, fraud, bedding pornstars, rape , fiddling loans, racism, sexism, homophobia, inciting riots ?

Come November , unless the dems have him killed, he will win by a comfortable margin, despite all this.

Inciting the Capitol Hill riots.

[Zoli 12 guage]

9 hours ago, Raja Clavata said:

Inciting the Capitol Hill riots.

has he been charged/been to court for that🤔

i believe it's called insurrection and it's a capital crime.

[oowee]

16 hours ago, Rewulf said:

What did he do , there are so many things ? 
Election denial, being a Putin puppet, fraud, bedding pornstars, rape , fiddling loans, racism, sexism, homophobia, inciting riots ?

Come November , unless the dems have him killed, he will win by a comfortable margin, despite all this.

Nothing illegal in bedding a porn but falsyfying business records to hide hush money payments made to the porn star to pevert the election is a felony. 

 

1 hour ago, Zoli 12 guage said:

has he been charged/been to court for that🤔

i believe it's called insurrection and it's a capital crime.

Not yet but he will be if not elected in Nov. 

No doubt he will pardon all the low life's around him. 

 

[udderlyoffroad]

Ahhh the “balloon’s gone up” - the media is finally acknowledging what the rest of us have seen with our own damn eyes these past 4 years.

This joke of a president wasn’t even deemed fit to stand trial by a prosecutor.

Why has it taken this until now to for them to acknowledge he’s totally unfit for office?

But apparently it’s too late, the law on who can be on the ballot varies by state, so without 50 different legal battles all going the same way, it’s Trump/Biden in November 

[Mungler]

Got sent this.

Now ponder what adding another 4 years will do.

The world has gone quite mad.

 

 

[NoBodyImportant]

On 28/06/2024 at 08:50, serrac said:

This debate was unusually early in the election cycle.
I've heard speculation that the dems asked for that to give them time to regroup around another candidate in the event Biden tanked like he did last night.

Part of their problem now is they need Biden to step aside voluntarily as there is no formal process to force him out, but does he even have the mental capacity now to understand what they want him to do, and why he should?  He probably thinks he demolished Trump last night...

Their other problem is the natural successor to take his place as Democrat candidate would be the vice president, Kamala Harris. 
Unfortunately, Harris has proved in polls to be even more unpopular than Biden, which is quite an achievement in itself.

That didn't prevent Biden "winning" in 2020...

 

[NoBodyImportant]

On 28/06/2024 at 08:50, serrac said:

This debate was unusually early in the election cycle.
I've heard speculation that the dems asked for that to give them time to regroup around another candidate in the event Biden tanked like he did last night.

Part of their problem now is they need Biden to step aside voluntarily as there is no formal process to force him out, but does he even have the mental capacity now to understand what they want him to do, and why he should?  He probably thinks he demolished Trump last night...

Their other problem is the natural successor to take his place as Democrat candidate would be the vice president, Kamala Harris. 
Unfortunately, Harris has proved in polls to be even more unpopular than Biden, which is quite an achievement in itself.

That didn't prevent Biden "winning" in 2020...

I suspect the vote count will look a lot like last time.  Where they send the pole watchers home at 3am and suddenly hundreds of thousands of votes are found for Biden.   Some voting districts reported more votes than registered voters but no way to track the votes because we don’t have voter ID laws. I can literally walk into a pole location and request a ballot.  I don’t have to prove that I live in that district.