RIOTS IN UK

[Raja Clavata]

24 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Starmer keeps saying that those rioting "DO NOT REPRESENT THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY"

Oh come on Sir Kier, get real, they certainly do and the feelings are growing.

They certainly do not represent the majority of the country. 

[Penelope]

10 hours ago, Rob85 said:

Notice how hard they are coming down on these riots and protests yet when it was the "George floyd" rioting time they stood back, let them wreck the place...cut down statues and the police take a knee and done damn all.

Part of the paln. Two tier policing. Sadly, those that rioted have fallen into a trap that will affect us all..

[12gauge82]

55 minutes ago, Zoli 12 guage said:

yes, SERIOUSLY!!!!!!!

we are importing this ideology by the boat load and being outbred by the ones that are already here.

what does GLOBALISM mean then?

 

Your original post seemed to be blaming Muslims rather than the migration policys that is at the root of it. I think it's important to remember who's really to blame or it could be a very short slide towards the far right. 

The similarities of all this and nazi Germany is not lost on me. Governments of Europe signing treaties that left the German people treated very unfairly, and there government ignored their plight, along came Hitler who promised to solve their problems and blamed the Jews, the rest is history. 

[Penelope]

10 hours ago, Weihrauch17 said:

And therein lies the cause of some of this, two Tier Policing which is astonishingly annoying and unjust.  Starmer poured petrol on the flames by going on TV to announce it was his official policy, absolutely brain dead.

Just doing his master bidding. There's a reason he prefers Davos to Westminster, but the Tories were just as bad.

[yickdaz]

36 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Unfortunately it will go on FOREVER.

Starmer keeps saying that those rioting "DO NOT REPRESENT THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY"

 

Oh come on Sir Kier, get real, they certainly do and the feelings are growing.

 

Your two tier policing policy is only exacerbating things.

Agreed they represent the feeling  in the country its just that most of us are not acting it out but the sentiment is there and that's what stainer yes stainer because that's all he is won't acknowledge it 

[Penelope]

11 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said:

They certainly do not represent the majority of the country. 

I think that you may be wrong on that front, ol' bean.

[Raja Clavata]

With tensions as they are globally, our efforts would be best channelled marching on Westminster, the immigration issue has the potential to get much much worse.

The illegal immigrants who are already here have exploited the system, our system. It’s the same system which allows the elite to exploit taxation and the spongers to exploit benefits. Everybody in between gets squeezed in the process.

[Yellow Bear]

12 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said:

They certainly do not represent the majority of the country. 

I totally agree but then nor does Starmer at less than 40% of the vote

[old'un]

7 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said:

They certainly do not represent the majority of the country. 

I think you maybe wrong there, there's a lot of people in this country that feel angry about the immigration situation in this country, they will talk to their neighbours about it but do not go out on the streets rioting, silent anger is very real in the UK.

[Penelope]

Just now, old'un said:

I think you maybe wrong there, there's a lot of people in this country that feel angry about the immigration situation in this country, they will talk to their neighbours about it but do not go out on the streets rioting, silent anger is very real in the UK.

This, even the 1st and 2nd generation immigrants in my team at work feel this way.

[Raja Clavata]

2 minutes ago, Penelope said:

I think that you may be wrong on that front, ol' bean.

 

1 minute ago, old'un said:

I think you maybe wrong there, there's a lot of people in this country that feel angry about the immigration situation in this country, they will talk to their neighbours about it but do not go out on the streets rioting, silent anger is very real in the UK.

I think it’s important to separate feeling from action, they may be driven by common sentiment of enough is enough but the majority of us don’t want to see the sentiment turn to rioting.

A lot of those imbeciles will be waking up jobless this morning which will put further strain on our finances.

7 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said:

I totally agree but then nor does Starmer at less than 40% of the vote

That’s a different topic though, isn’t it?

No single party is responsible for the current mess we are in. 

[old'un]

3 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said:

 

I think it’s important to separate feeling from action, they may be driven by common sentiment of enough is enough but the majority of us don’t want to see the sentiment turn to rioting.

A lot of those imbeciles will be waking up jobless this morning which will put further strain on our finances.

I guess then its a question of how often you can poke the dog before it bites you.

Are you saying the rioters are jobless thugs or they will be jobless after being arrested and charged?

[yickdaz]

15 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said:

 

I think it’s important to separate feeling from action, they may be driven by common sentiment of enough is enough but the majority of us don’t want to see the sentiment turn to rioting.

A lot of those imbeciles will be waking up jobless this morning which will put further strain on our finances.

That’s a different topic though, isn’t it?

No single party is responsible for the current mess we are in. 

No single party?  How about anyone who's been in govt for the last 20 years  how else have has it got to this state it didn't just happen overnight 

[Raja Clavata]

8 minutes ago, old'un said:

I guess then its a question of how often you can poke the dog before it bites you.

Are you saying the rioters are jobless thugs or they will be jobless after being arrested and charged?

I understand that certain employers have already told some spotted on TV not to bother attending their usual place of work this morning.

[old'un]

3 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said:

I understand that certain employers have already told some spotted on TV not to bother attending their usual place of work this morning.

So by that very fact some of these so called thugs are probably from young working/middle class families.

Perhaps they feel they have been poked once to often?

[Westley]

10 hours ago, Mice! said:

Just watching the news, a copper went to batton ( possibly) a lad throwing a missile at a window and completely missed him, fell over the lad who ran off, shouldn't laugh but I did.

Then there was a demo in Bolton, started peacefully,  then anti immigration demo turned up, then an Asian anti protest charging at the barrier, one copper clearly takes two swings with a fist and misses!

So Starmer gave his little speech earlier,  will they make an effort to arrest any of the Asian lads who turned up causing trouble??

I very much doubt it.

I think if the Bobby had fallen on top of that lad, he would be suspended by now, pending an investigation   !  There was another 'innocent bystander ' sent sprawling by a Bobby with a shield, I'll  bet he is awaiting the formal complaint too. Of course the Police Dog that was having a little nibble at another 'bystander '  will either be put down or sent for retraining. We can not have such Police Brutality on our streets.  🙄

[Zoli 12 guage]

1 hour ago, Raja Clavata said:

They certainly do not represent the majority of the country. 

and neither does the Liebor vote share👍

[islandgun]

1 hour ago, 12gauge82 said:

Your original post seemed to be blaming Muslims rather than the migration policys that is at the root of it. I think it's important to remember who's really to blame or it could be a very short slide towards the far right. 

The similarities of all this and nazi Germany is not lost on me. Governments of Europe signing treaties that left the German people treated very unfairly, and there government ignored their plight, along came Hitler who promised to solve their problems and blamed the Jews, the rest is history. 

Spot on

[oldypigeonpopper]

Hello, All this anger and frustration has been building up in UK for years , The Hampshire PCC Donna Jones made a statement , We need to uphold British Values and stop the illegal immigration, Absolutely spot on !!!!!

[Raja Clavata]

44 minutes ago, old'un said:

So by that very fact some of these so called thugs are probably from young working/middle class families.

Perhaps they feel they have been poked once to often?

I wouldn’t want to speculate on the thinking of people turning up to burn the very thing they are standing up for.

[Houseplant]

Been thinking about the old country. Hard to comprehend what is going on in some respects. Probably time for the UK to abandon commitments to the UN and ECHR etc. It's a sad state of affairs, but the world has changed. If the UK is to sort out immigration, it can't be hamstrung. Australia did it. Their policies were deeply unpopular with some of their own electorate and international bodies, yet they proceeded and gained some control. 

[Penelope]

1 minute ago, Houseplant said:

Been thinking about the old country. Hard to comprehend what is going on in some respects. Probably time for the UK to abandon commitments to the UN and ECHR etc. It's a sad state of affairs, but the world has changed. If the UK is to sort out immigration, it can't be hamstrung. Australia did it. Their policies were deeply unpopular with some of their own electorate and international bodies, yet they proceeded and gained some control. 

You need to understand that the powers that be do not want to stop it; they could have done so before if the will was there.

[janner]

Everything seemed to be running smoothly before farage and his crackpot brexiteering con trick, i used to like the olden days when we could blame the common market on our troubles,

This blaming immigrants for the failures of the post brexit immigration/asylum fiasco is simply not right,

The far right minority should look in the mirror when looking for the cause of their problem, its fairly clear their frustration is made more acute as they really thought that things would get better for them and theirs post brexit and they are subconciously unable to come to terms with their own stupidity in falling for it and the fact that they were really just used as legups to aid farages climb up the greasy pole of populist politics before being thrown under the bus once their white, working class leave votes had been counted,

I hope every man jack of these thugs caught on camera using weapons against the police,public and private property get a proportional sentence in relation to those those that were dished out to those that protested peacefully by sitting in the road or tied themselves to bridges for a far more important issue than a simple dislike of foreigners.

Smashing up a library, citizens advice centre and looting greggs says it all really.

Edited August 5 by janner

[Mice!]

11 hours ago, team tractor said:

The holiday inn Tamworth has been on fire . We drove past as the riot police were out after rocks were thrown and windows smashed .

In Tamworth we’ve had 5 stabbing and a few rapes in the last month linked to a place I won’t name .
All I can say is I no longer ride at night on my loop in fear of getting mugged by the groups of young lads from a certain location. 

Never did I think I’d feel unsafe in my home town . Saying this tho I think the idiots using violence will be loosing their front doors tomorrow morning. Idiots . 

And that's the massive alarm bell right there mate, or it should be, when a grown man doesn't want to go out at night it shows just how bad things have become. 

My MRS has always asked do I feel safe if I'm out and drunk, now I don't go silly anymore,  the two day hangover isn't worth it, but I've never felt there was an issue walking around town late at night.

It's going that way now across the country where more and more areas are no go areas and its wrong.

[Kev1gun]

She'll have said that, she seems to be able to say what is required , she has said stuff before. I think she has an Old school no nonsense approach, but your right she will be gone, Look at Sualla Braverman, she started making the right noises, then she was moved sideways.