The Police Are Soon Rounding Up The Trouble Makers

[Zoli 12 guage]

4 minutes ago, clangerman said:

a good reason to scrap anpr police helicopters and all the other expensive resources used to locate offenders still near the scene of their crime second thoughts why leave mc Donald’s in the first place! lol 

the police station has been relocated to Starbucks round here👍😡😡😡

[Rewulf]

11 minutes ago, Westley said:

WHEN did the last bank robbery take place, ?  I can't remember.  With the improvement in security and the movement in cash, it has become extremely difficult to rob a bank.  Far easier to target the corner shop and rip out the cash machine.

OK will police attend such an incident ?
What about muggings?

 

11 minutes ago, Westley said:

IF the offenders have left, you don't need a Police Officer, but maybe a Clairvoyant  !

Good to know that when crimes are committed, the police dont 'need' to attend, oh wait , how come they attend when someone says something naughty on social media ?

[Westley]

5 minutes ago, clangerman said:

a good reason to scrap anpr police helicopters and all the other expensive resources used to locate offenders still near the scene of their crime second thoughts why leave mc Donald’s in the first place! lol 

Helicopters are now shared between 3 (or more)Forces, it depends on its availability.  ANPR is an excellent tool to catch offenders, often days or weeks AFTER the event. It also aids the movements of criminals, which has replaced the role of a vastly more expensive helicopter.  Maybe make the helicopter a 'charity' similar to the 'Air Ambulance '  ?

[old man]

33 minutes ago, Mice! said:

If they choose to show up, I can imagine getting home and finding your home has been invaded and rifled through very traumatic,  the police should attend, this is why people get annoyed when they see police parked on bridges or by roadsides in a speed van 🙄

Simply that could be deemed more lucrative?

[JohnfromUK]

29 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

And EVERY year, WITHOUT fail, the Policing element of the Council Tax goes up with NOTHING to show for it.

Wrong.  Our Police and Crime Commissioner (PCC) has 67 staff in his dept. to show for it.  They don't do any policing, but I understand compile a shedload of data and reports - from which he sees how great progress is being made in the Force for which he is PCC.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

5 minutes ago, Rewulf said:

Good to know that when crimes are committed, the police dont 'need' to attend, oh wait , how come they attend when someone says something naughty on social media ?

Because HATE CRIME is the MOST important part of Policing at the moment, if you are hating a minority.

[Raja Clavata]

2 hours ago, Mice! said:

I don't often watch links, but wow that's bad.

@Raja Clavata there you go, watch that video, it's grim viewing. 

Are there knives being wielded in the video?

I agree it’s grim.

[Westley]

5 minutes ago, Zoli 12 guage said:

the police station has been relocated to Starbucks round here👍😡😡😡

With no canteens in Police stations, strangely enough Police Officers still have to eat and drink during their 12 hour shift. I took sandwiches, but a lot of Bobbies are single, so fast food is their choice. They do not get an official break, they eat and drink when they can, sometimes not at all.

 

Just now, old man said:

Simply that could be deemed more lucrative?

Lucrative for WHO  ?  Do you really believe that the Police see any of the 'fines' money  ?  Don't speed, or if you do, don't moan  !

4 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said:

Wrong.  Our Police and Crime Commissioner (PCC) has 67 staff in his dept. to show for it.  They don't do any policing, but I understand compile a shedload of data and reports - from which he sees how great progress is being made in the Force for which he is PCC.

THIS  !

[old man]

2 minutes ago, Westley said:

With no canteens in Police stations, strangely enough Police Officers still have to eat and drink during their 12 hour shift. I took sandwiches, but a lot of Bobbies are single, so fast food is their choice. They do not get an official break, they eat and drink when they can, sometimes not at all.

 

Lucrative for WHO  ?  Do you really believe that the Police see any of the 'fines' money  ?  Don't speed, or if you do, don't moan  !

THIS  !

Fact of life.

Living here anyone who regularly speeds could theoretically loose a ticket in a 10 miles drive? Surveillance county is us.

[Westley]

11 minutes ago, old man said:

Fact of life.

Living here anyone who regularly speeds could theoretically loose a ticket in a 10 miles drive? Surveillance county is us.

Lancashire, Staffordshire are the same. I am awaiting a ticket for doing about 74 on a dual carriageway in Yorkshire,  but I'm sure as hell not going to winge about it.

Edited August 6 by Westley

[Mice!]

35 minutes ago, Zoli 12 guage said:

i agree but Dublin has got now't to do with us

May have been Belfast sorry, at least they were on the news today, I'm just pointing out that it's very spread out.

39 minutes ago, Westley said:

If you are stupid enough to leave your property in full view and walk away, you must expect it not to be there upon your return. T

I can agree with this, we new growing ip from being teens if you left things lying around,  or sometimes in the locked shed there was a good chance they'd be gone. 

The amount of stuff kids left on the front lawns where we lived last baffled me, nothing was ever taken.

31 minutes ago, Westley said:

With the level of security that I have had installed,  I would already be aware that my property was being attacked via my phone. The outside lighting and camera's would have been activated, if they try ANY windows or doors, the alarm will have activated. They are still OUTSIDE my property at this stage. In 30 years of Policing, I NEVER attended an alarm on a premises and found the offenders sitting on the doorstep, awaiting my arrival.

That's your house, imagine a mother getting home with her kids and finding she's been burgled, first instinct is call the police, to then be told here's a crime number 😳 sorry but I've never felt its good enough.

[Mice!]

24 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said:

Are there knives being wielded in the video?

I agree it’s grim.

I only watched it once, they clearly threatened the reporter,  I've no idea what was going on with the cars going round the roundabout and lads hanging out sunroofs. 

The white lad took a beating and you couldn't see how it ended,  no idea how he got there, no chance I'd have walked into that lot.

Then property damage!!

Someone says their smashing up a car, but it's not visible, I couldn't make out what the chants were?

The only things missing were burning flags and AKs being fired into the air, that's how bad it looked to me!!

If that doesn't deserve a police response I'm not sure what does, but any police car turning up is going to get trashed, I'm guessing they were just sat watching CCTV hoping that things calmed down. 

[Westley]

8 minutes ago, Mice! said:

 

That's your house, imagine a mother getting home with her kids and finding she's been burgled, first instinct is call the police, to then be told here's a crime number 😳 sorry but I've never felt its good enough.

There will always be a percentage of people who would benefit a consoling visit from a Police Officer. But, there will ALWAYS be a greater number of people who do not see home security as their problem, especially if they are in 'social housing'.  They manage holidays abroad, sometimes several times a year, but baulk at paying around £800 for a good, if basic, alarm system.

[Raja Clavata]

5 minutes ago, Mice! said:

I only watched it once, they clearly threatened the reporter,  I've no idea what was going on with the cars going round the roundabout and lads hanging out sunroofs. 

The white lad took a beating and you couldn't see how it ended,  no idea how he got there, no chance I'd have walked into that lot.

Then property damage!!

Someone says their smashing up a car, but it's not visible, I couldn't make out what the chants were?

The only things missing were burning flags and AKs being fired into the air, that's how bad it looked to me!!

If that doesn't deserve a police response I'm not sure what does, but any police car turning up is going to get trashed, I'm guessing they were just sat watching CCTV hoping that things calmed down. 

So, clearly people in the crowd had knives but they don’t appear to have been wildly brandishing them. 
Yet you imagine burning flags and AK47s, can you not see an issue with this?

[Gordon R]

Westley is right about the attendance of the Police following a burglary or car stolen. The Police racing to the scene might be a comfort blanket for many, but it doesn't achieve anything. It was the norm before Police cuts and I wish we could get back to those days. Policing needs a thorough overhaul with Chief Constables appointed on the basis of whether they intend to wind back the clock and properly police, rather than demonstrating diversity and taking the knee.

Too much of Police funds is wasted on Police Commissioners - a totally useless drain. Bit like the NHS replacing Matrons with Diversity and HR departments, Budget Managers, Chief Executives.

Lions led by donkeys.

[Mice!]

9 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said:

Yet you imagine burning flags and AK47s, can you not see an issue with this

I don't imagine them, I said the only thing missing,  because it looked like something we see on the news from the middle east, it didn't look like Birmingham. Loads of the comments flashing up were asking where is this.

One white lad appeared and got battered,  can you not see an issue with that?

It didn't look like a peaceful protest,  what was it even about?

Now imagine one Asian lad walking down the street and getting set upon my a load of white lads, it would be just as bad, but I'd expect the reaction would be different. 

[Rewulf]

1 minute ago, Gordon R said:

Westley is right about the attendance of the Police following a burglary or car stolen. The Police racing to the scene might be a comfort blanket for many, but it doesn't achieve anything.

The problem is, if the burglars KNOW that police wont be racing to the scene, theyll have plenty of time to do their work.
I know theres a difference between a burglary in progress, and a burglary that 'happened', but imagine a lone woman coming home to find the place broken into, and not knowing if the perps are still there hiding, and an unsecured dwelling ?
This is an important part of policing, making the public feel safe.

If we feel like the police dont care about public safety, where are we at ?
A good example is the pub in Birmingham being attacked by masked rioters, some armed with knives and bats, with families cowering inside and having to barricade themselves in, why did the riot squad show up and throw a cordon round them like they did at the mosque in Southport ?

[Yellow Bear]

4 minutes ago, Mice! said:

One white lad appeared and got battered,  can you not see an issue with that?

It didn't look like a peaceful protest,  what was it even about?

Now imagine one Asian lad walking down the street and getting set upon my a load of white lads, it would be just as bad, but I'd expect the reaction would be different. 

MSM would be all over it like a rash -  nasty hard right

[Gordon R]

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A good example is the pub in Birmingham being attacked by masked rioters, some armed with knives and bats, with families cowering inside and having to barricade themselves in, why did the riot squad show up and throw a cordon round them like they did at the mosque in Southport ?

It is a good example and also a disgrace. These decisions to attend will not be made by frontline Police, but higher up. Therein lies the problem. 

The situation has not been helped by the hapless Starmer. When he said mosques and Muslims should be protected, he was right, but as Elon Musk has pointed out - what about the rest of the community? Talk about an own goal. Whilst trying to dispel theories of two tier policing, Starmer just throws a can of petrol onto the fire.

[Rewulf]

3 minutes ago, Gordon R said:

The situation has not been helped by the hapless Starmer. When he said mosques and Muslims should be protected, he was right, but as Elon Musk has pointed out - what about the rest of the community? Talk about an own goal. Whilst trying to dispel theories of two tier policing, Starmer just throws a can of petrol onto the fire.

Theres also this incident, which thankfully is being investigated.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1932225/uk-riots-stoke-police-mosque

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Car crash politics?

[johnphilip]

4 minutes ago, Rewulf said:

Theres also this incident, which thankfully is being investigated.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1932225/uk-riots-stoke-police-mosque

This was shown on youtube , not sure if it's still there. 

[Rewulf]

7 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Car crash politics?

As Ive said , very impressive first month for the labour party.
I cant remember a time when a government has come in and messed things up so quickly 

Heres to the next 4 years and 11 months 

[Minky]

I am  no fan of the police but I do not hate them as individuals.  They have a difficult and often thankless job to do BUT I  do think that they often don't help their cause by being arrogant and not appearing to bother or care..l. An example. My  sister became aware that a couple of scrotes had scaled the 6ft garden fence and were trawling stuff in the garden shed.   She made the call and told the operator that they were still there and IF they came WITHOUT USING SIRENS  that they could be caught in the act.   There must have been a car along the road.  But what did the clowns do..?  They turned the sirens on and you could hear them from a  distance AND  they sat outside for several minutes with the sirens on.  When they eventually came to the house they said..... Well where are they....? SISTER WAS NOT BEST PLEASED.  To compound this they said "we'll give you a crime report number.!!  Sister asked what  for.?  To claim for a padlock from the insurance,!!  There was absolutely no point because the household insurance policy would have increased several times and amounted to fifty times the cost of a new padlock.  Pathetic attempt. AND TO ADD INSULT 5O INJURY, they informed her that the tread on her front tyre was a bit low.!  She sharply informed them that it was booked in and that she would take it in if she dared to leave the house unattended.  !!!!

[Penelope]

2 hours ago, Rewulf said:

OK will police attend such an incident ?
What about muggings?

 

Good to know that when crimes are committed, the police dont 'need' to attend, oh wait , how come they attend when someone says something naughty on social media ?

https://www.hamhigh.co.uk/news/national/24453825.number-crimes-no-suspect-identified-not-acceptable-watchdog-tells-met/